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[TheGoldenParadox]

(i think it'd be ai today after it was much more easy for scum to pile onto me)

[Toto]

Do you have any other scum reads? Who do you think Fire partners are?

[Toto]

I read some of fire’s ISO but honestly dont see your point about the probability update thing. I see him
making progress on the shurro+tgp case and some updated thoughts on shurro.

That said I do see he is sort of tunneled on that case for a large part of the ISO. Is that what you are scumreading?

[giuseppina]

But pina if you want to murder gimly, aubrey, shurro or norwee more you have my vote. Those are not bad flips either.

can i get your vote on fire?

hm,

how open to voting gimli are you?

[giuseppina]

I think furtive is unlikely to be scum with how he's been so far

That's the best take of these pages

Shirou and norwee are both less likeky to be town than furtive/Giuseppina/fire. Shirou went from annoying thread captain to "this game exists okay", norwee is doing the same thing. They're both still probably town but Im only townreading norwee on the back of shirou's meta, so it's the weakest part of the towncore. Hopefully j get to clear one of (std, toto, klick) and get a POE solve without this pair.

hmhmhm

it has often felt to me like you were trying to make a coalition simply to include yourself in it/choose who to pressure outside of it but maybe this is how you solve

do you generally approach the game in this way? (will probably click on random games of yours in a bit as well)

hm, it doesn’t really seem like gimli usually heavily relies on coalitioning and poe solving as town,

but, uh

this game feels very far away from the temple game gimli was mafia in but that’s probably not a good point of comparison due to the situation gimli replaced into there

and while the style of posting here is more similar to the clock game gimli was mafia in i feel like gimli didn’t really present any sort of overarching ‘town’ approach to that game mostly just giving so if mafia here i think it would be a notable evolution though that game was a while ago

[giuseppina]

*giving reads

[giuseppina]

like, i don't think i made it abundantly clear enough, but

if fire flips town my first post tomorrow will be a vote on myself.

(i'm confident enough, and not a causal decision theorist, and so you can take this as a Serious Promise).

it kinda feels like thegoldenparadox is leaning into others making a potential connection between him and fireisredsir

[giuseppina]

like, i don't think i made it abundantly clear enough, but

if fire flips town my first post tomorrow will be a vote on myself.

(i'm confident enough, and not a causal decision theorist, and so you can take this as a Serious Promise).

it kinda feels like thegoldenparadox is leaning into others making a potential connection between him and fireisredsir

like thegoldenparadox saw the cat scratch fever read that furtiveglance agreed with and is now playing even more into it

i guess that kinda assumes mafia intent but yeah

which probably means if thegoldenparadox is mafia then fireisredsir is less likely to be not more as that would be a kinda ??? of trying to distance when others are reaching the opposite conclusion from previous similar posts

[giuseppina]

could be attempting to get someone to read it that way by doubling down i guess but eh

it’s like, how often do scums actually say to themselves ‘i will do the thing others are saying i am doing more so that they’ll reach the opposite conclusion’? maybe sometimes? but once again, eh

[giuseppina]

if thegoldenparadox is town the whole ‘well if i am wrong we will eliminate me too’ thing doesn’t make any sense whatsoever as that just puts us to 4v3 which is obviously unideal but i cannot say that i’ve never seen town say (and even do) similar things, so

[giuseppina]

could be attempting to get someone to read it that way by doubling down i guess but eh

it’s like, how often do scums actually say to themselves ‘i will do the thing others are saying i am doing more so that they’ll reach the opposite conclusion’? maybe sometimes? but once again, eh

mmm

maybe actually

but i still think fireisredsir towny for other reasons and again thegoldenparadox would have to be mafia for any of this to be relevant

[Klick]

@TGP:

Can you go into more detail what your Shirou votes/suspicion on D1 were about? Did you think Shirou was >rand scum? If so, why? If not, why were you voting Shirou?

I realise some of this might make you repeat stuff you've already said, but there's some confusion about what your Shirou vote was actually about and it would be very useful if you could clarify.

@TGP

Can I have a response to this please

[Klick]

like, i don't think i made it abundantly clear enough, but

if fire flips town my first post tomorrow will be a vote on myself.

(i'm confident enough, and not a causal decision theorist, and so you can take this as a Serious Promise).

This feels really bad as a response to pressure

I want to respond to Gimli's last post to me, give TGP a proper look-over and then I'm fine with a hammer

[Klick]

@Toto

Could you please hold off until I've caught up? I should have time in a couple of hours

[giuseppina]

weird parallels in furtiveglance’s confidence in thegoldenparadox being a scums and thegoldenparadox’s confidence in fireisredsir being a scums

would largely like to outsource my read on furtiveglance i think

and i think i am okay with a thegoldenparadox elimination here and will put him to e-1 so toto can hammer in the morning (after klick catches up and such)

VOTE: thegoldenparadox

do not think things are going to get any clearer to me tonight and i probably shouldn’t continue to ask for time

i mostly feel the same way as earlier but if i am nightkilled everyone should probably assume it was because i am Town and ignore everything i have said

i guess i would have liked to see this:

and if I'm not NK'd tonight I'm reconsidering everything and meta diving every single person in this playerlist and casing every single one of you to spit the scum team just like mystery box of silver

to feel better about shirou and the una wagon there just felt so very likely to be mafia led to me but there were times in conversation where shirou felt just like a ghost of towns’ past so

[giuseppina]

[Klick]

I'm sorry, something has come up, I won't be around very much today.

Feel free to hammer if anyone wants to.

[Klick]

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox
This is happening anyway

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dunno if this is hammer but if it is, good.

VOTE: TGP

[Shirou]

i can't believe klick robbed me of the hammer i was planning to rob from toto

i thought about hammering last night but pina would complain about me "rushing" again

i'm emotionally destroyed rn

[Shirou]

[Shirou]

hm

just in case it's not hammer yet

VOTE: TGP

[furtiveglance]

I'll think I'll put TGP on E-1, someone else can hammer if they want

VOTE: TGP

[Shirou]

@shirou reread my iso, seriously think about it, and then say out loud that i'm scum and fire's town

like, you're better than this and you know it

like idk this post feels like it comes from scum more often than not

i don't even think fire is always town here as much as i think his partners are in the PoE i already explained that

[Shirou]

tbh i'm starting to feel like fire is scum with tgp but it can also be scum!tgp way of wifom'ing this game

i just hope there's another scum in my PoE if that's the case

that's it from me i guess

fire/furtive/tgp could make sense as a team