Gnosia Game over!

[Gimli]

not cause of the mechanics cause idk what anyone is talking about re: mech

but trying to jump on your self made wagon indicates scum to me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Math, if you're town this game I hope you consider taking a position in mafia games going forward that checks your own ego and doesn't automatically suspect anyone who suspects you.

Because that's part of your general MO and it's what makes you impossible to play with.

You are the reason I have had a hard time engaging with this game. No one else, just you.

At this point I would happily push for you to die just so I could actually enjoy playing this game without having to defend myself from baseless OMGUS arguments that are founded on literal nothing besides "I'm too townie to be scum so you must be scum teehee".

Genuinely Unpleasant to deal with.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

not cause of the mechanics cause idk what anyone is talking about re: mech

but trying to jump on your self made wagon indicates scum to me

???

I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR MATHBLADE TO DIE LITERALLY THE SECOND I JOINED THIS GAME

HOW IS THIS JUMPING ON I'VE ALREADY BEEN CALLING FOR THIS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Holy fuck can you at least pretend to read the fucking game before you open your mouth and spout uninformed nonsense like FUCK dude

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And yet, dealing with you is STILL more enjoyable than having to play counter Mathblade rn, so, I guess it's a step up

[Gimli]

I'm glad I'm enjoyable

still heavily dislike your reaction to math's self vote

[Gimli]

look I even have the clown nose, don't take me seriously

[Gimli]

how were you so sure math was scum from the get go btw?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is not an opportunistic situation of "oh look someone is voting themselves let's kill them"

this is "oh look the person I've been scumreading for days is pulling a weird gambit trying to kill themselves, let's not allow them to use that to generate sympathy and avoid being PoE'd and killed".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

how were you so sure math was scum from the get go btw?

Because I've played with him before, because his play indicated the position of a player trying to run the town while also scum and balance the middle and their reaction to being pushed by me intitially was horrible and confirmed my suspicions.

Literally it was a gut read that turned into a positional read and then Math's reaction made it far more solidified.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My job this game is literally just to ensure Mathblade does not go to endgame. The rest I don't care about, others can handle. You've killed a gnosia already, we can kill more. FG and Ranger seem to have a handle on the game, us losing our cop was bad but...

[Gimli]

you seem like town now

good talk

who do we vote?

[MathBlade]

Math, if you're town this game I hope you consider taking a position in mafia games going forward that checks your own ego and doesn't automatically suspect anyone who suspects you.

Because that's part of your general MO and it's what makes you impossible to play with.

You are the reason I have had a hard time engaging with this game. No one else, just you.

At this point I would happily push for you to die just so I could actually enjoy playing this game without having to defend myself from baseless OMGUS arguments that are founded on literal nothing besides "I'm too townie to be scum so you must be scum teehee".

Genuinely Unpleasant to deal with.

If you read this game that’s not my MO here.

I was sus of Shiki before you repped in.

[MathBlade]

This is not an opportunistic situation of "oh look someone is voting themselves let's kill them"

this is "oh look the person I've been scumreading for days is pulling a weird gambit trying to kill themselves, let's not allow them to use that to generate sympathy and avoid being PoE'd and killed".

I am not doing that. I agree I should be flipped before Herta dies. I just think that you should flip after I do.

[Esooa]

beeboy/parking/lld poe

[Freedom]

beeboy/parking/lld poe

I mostly agree with this, though shiki was all right so I'm not really interested in a LLD vote.

[gerryoat]

I have high hopes for gerryoat

also holy crap our mod had to replace like 36 people so far

This is my first game in like 4 years lol, I'll try to live up to it. One thing I remember from this site is that your modded games were always the best, hope you do another one soon. I have high hopes for you too lol

[gerryoat]

MathBlade stop voting yourself

Why not?

It removes a bug world and forces LLD to refresh a known entity so no scum refresh.

Then you use your ability on someone and boom.

I fail to see the problem or where it’s anti town.

Last time I played with MathBlade they hard tunneled me when we were both town. You're living up to expectation so far by voting yourself

[gerryoat]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not reading 88 pages. And I won't have context for the posts at the time. What's everyone thinking so far?

[Ranger]

VOTE: MathBlade
The more I think about it, the more likely I think I am a good elim for town.

Nice try Bug but you're not going to convince us to bughunt instead of gnosia hunt.

The bug's win condition is apparently to endgame whichever faction would've won as long as the bug remains alive. The bug does need to die before we eliminate the last gnosia, but we've confirmation via Herta two gnosia are alive right now.

Ergo, there is absolutely no way for the bug to endgame the town overnight.

There is however a tangible benefit to eliminating gnosia today. Two gnosia alive can kill Enchant without forfeiting a nightkill. One gnosia alive cannot. Two gnosia alive can plan together during the night phase, sharing theories, strategies, and forming a path to victory. One gnosia alive has only themselves.

Fear-hunting for the bug is +bug.

We know the bug is alive.
We know there's two gnosia alive.
There may or may not be a traitor.
But per there being two gnosia alive, we need to eliminate a second gnosia today.

:P

[Ranger]

VOTE: MathBlade
The more I think about it, the more likely I think I am a good elim for town.

Nice try Bug but you're not going to convince us to bughunt instead of gnosia hunt.

The bug's win condition is apparently to endgame whichever faction would've won as long as the bug remains alive. The bug does need to die before we eliminate the last gnosia, but we've confirmation via Herta two gnosia are alive right now.

Ergo, there is absolutely no way for the bug to endgame the town overnight.

There is however a tangible benefit to eliminating gnosia today. Two gnosia alive can kill Enchant without forfeiting a nightkill. One gnosia alive cannot. Two gnosia alive can plan together during the night phase, sharing theories, strategies, and forming a path to victory. One gnosia alive has only themselves.

Fear-hunting for the bug is +bug.

We know the bug is alive.
We know there's two gnosia alive.
There may or may not be a traitor.
But per there being two gnosia alive, we need to eliminate a second gnosia today.

:P

To explain, I'd like to reiterate: MathBlade's unlikely Gnosia from the Jessica-MathBlade interactions. It's not

impossible

, but it's

less likely

. Even in the event MathBlade

were

gnosia (which I doubt), his stunt would still be +gnosia if, as I suspect, narrow parking is Gnosia.

There was strong thread consensus to vote narrow parking.
MathBlade should know he was not in danger and not a priority.
I feel MathBlade taking a fall is to deliberately attempt saving narrow parking by splitting/dividing the votes in a more favorable way.

Thus, I request we keep our votes on target;
VOTE: narrow parking

[Ranger]

I think we need to execute me before Herta dies to eliminate me!Bug worlds.

With the Engineer dead, Herta should be the permanent target of the GA, barring shenanigans. As such, Herta shouldn't die at all (since gnosia won't know when the GA dies). Thus, there's no rush to kill a bug when we've got two gnosia alive.

I'm sorta pondering if scum ranger would hard defend jessica, but I think we just execute narrow parking today

Hard to say, first game back. Intuition says yes, but not in the way I did. I agree on narrow parking prio today.

[Ranger]

who do we vote?

narrow parking for a start.

If we insist on competing wagons,

gerryoats

not showing up when beeboy was also absent would also be a good vote.

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not reading 88 pages. And I won't have context for the posts at the time. What's everyone thinking so far?

This sounds familiar.

I'm not catching up, I am just pretending the game started on this page and any other quoted posts are meta reads.
I've been waiting and feel the need to mention this.

[MathBlade]

We can do narrow but I am a ticking time bomb because if I were scum I would (redacted)

I’d like to be eliminated within 1-2 days if not today. I don’t want to be near elo without confirmation then me and FakeGod would have some mech firms and social reads.

We need to work on building a circle of trust that evil can’t penetrate and work on elimming people outside.

[MathBlade]

Elimming town isn’t horrible in a flipless you learn who went where and why.