My time has become fairly restricted now, I may post less or replace out of some of my other games at some point
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At any rate, I have a fairly newbie question/stance and I don't have the time to edit it to make myself sound intelligent or whatever, so here it is.
1st point -> Most people seem to have SC as scummy and are either willing to vote for him now, or if no one else pops up as more scummy. It doesn't seem like people are going after SC to respond or say anything at all though... which seems weird to me. I want him to post more since I am not 100% convinced yet, and I don't think others are either.
2nd point -> SC... isn't really responding or defending himself. I don't really get why not either. Maybe it is just mindgames for me to assume so, but if SC defended himself fairly decently and actually did some scumhunting then I could see him getting out of being lynched and if he was town, then he would attempt to do so... instead he is just kind of fluffing around and waiting for himself to die. Either non-helpful townie or scum resigned to his fate.... either way, I figure he would say or do something unless him saying more could be harmful to his 'team'.
3rd point -> at some point players start talking about scum buddies, and linking players and such. Frankly, this freaks me out.
Maybe I am just totally new to this, but linking players BEFORE a scum is lynched, is incredibly anti-town/scummy to me. It is like setting players up to take a fall.
Of course, town could do it if they legitimately think the players are individually scummy, but when conversation is, "who are the scum buddies", "who is he buddying with, I can imagine it with SC", etc. it makes me worry.
Sure, it may be legitimate scumhunting and such, getting pressure and getting reactions to get tells.
But what happens if SC *is* scum and we do lynch him, and then we all look back... and scum had already decided to BUS SC and set up 'fall guys' to balance it all out.
Then we spend time lynching the 'linked' players just because they were linked somehow regardless of their individual town/scum-tells.
This strikes me as incredibly bad. My 'interpretation' was that it is mainly as individuals right now (town, anti-town, scum-tells) and then once you do get a scum lynched then you can actually make informed scum buddy analysis.
Analyzing scum buddy before knowing any scum... is just... weird to me.
I made a overly large leap in tying Primate and SC together, and trying to force them to respond mainly because I wanted reactions and comments (since neither were stating anything about the other) and what better way than to say that they are buddies (which should freak almost anyone out)... I didn't 100% believe that they are buddies but it was to get a reaction and get them to post on each other.
If that is the meaning of the questioning/buddy linking going on, then I can understand it. It is for reactions.
However, some of the comments and way that things are said strike me as 'setting' up and that bothers me.
The various scenarios in my mind ... just aren't good. I would have been perfectly willing to wait 'forever' for Primate to return and SC and Primate to post on each other. Instead, Primate replaces out and we get Ythill who does state things against SC.... but... SC doesn't really comment or defend... just says "interesting insights".
I don't get it.
I have ideas on what others have written and said but... the one glaring thing that always comes back to me is what I considered optimum move for town:
1. We don't know if SC is scum or not, we exert pressure/voting him/ and getting a response out of him and let him defend himself. No intent to quicklynch.
2. If he defends himself well and we think he is town, we move on. If he fails, and we think he is scum, then we can talk about it more and still do other things (he isn't going anywhere) but at least we would "know" and can make informed decision, analysis and buddy/linking.
It just seems this course of action is more real and concrete to analyze and look at instead of just linking other players before we know enough about SC (seriously he hasn't said enough to be 100% scum).
The only argument I could have against myself posting this and saying this 'outloud' is that scum would then hide their buddying and severe their connection with SC, etc. but... I believe it has already been done and now it is just trying to buddy/link players who haven't realized it yet.
So... I would like to hear what everyone thinks about this. SC is still my #1 and I would love to hear his thoughts on several things.
I will also say that those being linked seem more pro-town to me and those linking seem more scummy to me. (unless they or others can prove otherwise or show that I am wrong, etc.)
Corvuus
