Gnosia Game over!

Gimli · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:08 am

In post 1965, Enchant wrote:
In post 1964, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm
Yep. Pretty much this. I don’t think you’ve put thought into why I can’t be group scum based on the setup. And bug will likely resolve itself.

I fully expect NK15 to check me and scum can’t kill me to frame me as bug. So if I die I know it’s the scum NK and then NK15 clears me. If scum kill NK15 to avoid that possibility (assuming no doc protect) then the fact I am not dead confirms me not bug. The slimmest of margins that could be argued after tonight is traitor but then traitors generally die with the last scum.

I really don’t think you’re thinking your sus through.
Cool.
Welcome to not bug status for me.
I have work fires and will get to this later.
Nope. NK15 was roleblocked last night.

No status for you.

how do you know NK15 was roleblocked? is that your one-shot?

Gimli · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:09 am

In post 1934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm
Yep. Pretty much this. I don’t think you’ve put thought into why I can’t be group scum based on the setup. And bug will likely resolve itself.

I fully expect NK15 to check me and scum can’t kill me to frame me as bug. So if I die I know it’s the scum NK and then NK15 clears me. If scum kill NK15 to avoid that possibility (assuming no doc protect) then the fact I am not dead confirms me not bug. The slimmest of margins that could be argued after tonight is traitor but then traitors generally die with the last scum.

I really don’t think you’re thinking your sus through.

does that logic make sense to anyone not called mathblade?

Gimli · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:13 am

In post 1943, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 1931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm
Trust me Lady.
Math isn’t Group wolf.
Suicidal play as Traitor.

Can very well be bug though but that’s why we have a GA to protect the cop so they can kill the Bug.

do we know why my predecessor was sure Math wasn't group wolf? or, is that a read?

Gimli · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:16 am

In post 1970, Enchant wrote:No, i roleblocked NK15.

what. why?

Gimli · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:24 am

In post 1533, Enchant wrote:Fine. I think i should't had bet on common sense and claimed instantly. Oh well.

I am Kukrushka, anyone who targets me with any ability at night will feel regret and roleblocked for next night. It's passive and i can't disable that. It's also infinity use.

Avoid me. Tsk.

ah, that's why NK15 was roleblocked, cause it targeted enchant. got it.

Gimli · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:30 am

so mathblade, knowing NK15 would be roleblocked that night cause he has to know this since post 1533, was still trying to push me for it like this was something I did lol. what's worse, taking enchant's word at face value without understanding how enchant knew about the roleblock. I did replace in clumsily but it's not really my fault, is it? mathblade is clueless. or scum. or both.

Gimli · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:31 am

and then parading around that he'd be confirmed town. not great, but anyway.

I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.

Gimli · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:24 am

I'll go ahead and download gnosia and play the game, looks good

MathBlade · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:49 am

In post 2102, Gimli wrote:
In post 1943, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
In post 1931, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because I think you are scum... When you are in a grest bussing/bug slot?

Hmm
Trust me Lady.
Math isn’t Group wolf.
Suicidal play as Traitor.

Can very well be bug though but that’s why we have a GA to protect the cop so they can kill the Bug.
do we know why my predecessor was sure Math wasn't group wolf? or, is that a read?

Because it would be a suicidal double bus that’s absolutely horrible in flipless games?

I will re-review your ISO when not busy but I don’t like people doing sneaky shit after being called out on it.

The votecounts do match now which was my primary argument but this just feels so icky

MathBlade · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:49 am

Like if you’re town I shouldn’t have had to call you out on the “mistake”

Gimli · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:57 am

"sneaky shit"

Freedom · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:49 am

In post 2106, Gimli wrote:I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.

How about narrow?

Ranger · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:30 pm

In post 2087, MathBlade wrote:I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.

Gimli's ability has been proven to be true, per the mod correcting what was originally a mod error. The fact there was a publicly announced mod error and the corrected vc supports the claim indicates the mod error was not factoring Gimil's role. Ergo, Gimli's power is proven true.

The slot is spewed as not-Gnosia from the Jessica interactions. While bug/traitor are possible, today we should hunt gnosia and Gimli is essentially confirmed not-Gnosia.

If you want competing wagons,

In post 2111, Freedom wrote:
In post 2106, Gimli wrote:I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.
How about narrow?

I'd prefer dueling {narrow parking, beeboy} wagons.

MathBlade · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:34 pm

In post 2112, Ranger wrote:
In post 2087, MathBlade wrote:I can compromise on narrow but I don’t understand how others aren’t calling for Gimili’s head since we need to have at most two wagons.
Gimli's ability has been proven to be true, per the mod correcting what was originally a mod error. The fact there was a publicly announced mod error and the corrected vc supports the claim indicates the mod error was not factoring Gimil's role. Ergo, Gimli's power is proven true.

The slot is spewed as not-Gnosia from the Jessica interactions. While bug/traitor are possible, today we should hunt gnosia and Gimli is essentially confirmed not-Gnosia.

If you want competing wagons,
In post 2111, Freedom wrote:
In post 2106, Gimli wrote:I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.
How about narrow?
I'd prefer dueling {narrow parking, beeboy} wagons.

Sounds good to me. I don’t know if I agree with the first part of the day not gnosia but the ability was revised. I do agree with not today.

narrow parking · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:48 pm

went on a bender and forgot this game lol

narrow parking · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:55 pm

In post 2112, Ranger wrote:While bug/traitor are possible, today we should hunt gnosia and Gimli is essentially confirmed not-Gnosia.

what is the town +advantage of hunting gnosia tonight? We're either 9:2:1:1 or 10:2:0:1 today (town:gnosia:traitor:bug) depending on whether jada was a traitor or bad town. I don't feel comfortable spending more days limming low info lurkers when there's a 3p with an unknown win condition out there.

narrow parking · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:04 pm

In post 1992, MathBlade wrote:I have no problem being eliminated but Gimli is lying or Drapion is when they said they didn’t do anything and they are the same slot.

As I said I doubt I get legit sus and I haven’t been told my ability refreshed so no idea if I can use it again

what was the timeline on this issue here? as far as i see it vc had an error? At what point was this fixed, i see a mention of a fix here which is before this post

narrow parking · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:10 pm

i also feel like math blade insisting on being investigated by the known role blocked cop is potentially bug indicative. what do u think abt that @mathblade

Ranger · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:34 pm

In post 2115, narrow parking wrote:
In post 2112, Ranger wrote:While bug/traitor are possible, today we should hunt gnosia and Gimli is essentially confirmed not-Gnosia.
what is the town +advantage of hunting gnosia tonight? We're either 9:2:1:1 or 10:2:0:1 today (town:gnosia:traitor:bug) depending on whether jada was a traitor or bad town. I don't feel comfortable spending more days limming low info lurkers when there's a 3p with an unknown win condition out there.

Nice try Gnosia but you're not going to convince us to bughunt instead of gnosia hunt.

The bug's win condition is apparently to endgame whichever faction would've won as long as the bug remains alive. The bug

does

need to die before we eliminate the last gnosia, but we've confirmation via Herta two gnosia are alive right now.

Ergo, there is absolutely no way for the bug to endgame the town overnight.

There is however a tangible benefit to eliminating gnosia today. Two gnosia alive can kill Enchant without forfeiting a nightkill. One gnosia alive cannot. Two gnosia alive can plan together during the night phase, sharing theories, strategies, and forming a path to victory. One gnosia alive has only themselves.

Fear-hunting for the bug is +gnosia.

We know the bug is alive.
We know there's two gnosia alive.
There may or may not be a traitor.
But per there being two gnosia alive, we need to eliminate a second gnosia today.

Herta · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:38 pm

VOTE: narrow parking

FakeGod · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:21 pm

where is Roden I need his guidance

Freedom · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:08 pm

In post 2112, Ranger wrote: If you want competing wagons,
In post 2111, Freedom wrote:
In post 2106, Gimli wrote:I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.
How about narrow?
I'd prefer dueling {narrow parking, beeboy} wagons.

I agree with these wagons.

Herta · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:12 pm

In post 2121, Freedom wrote:
In post 2112, Ranger wrote: If you want competing wagons,
In post 2111, Freedom wrote:
In post 2106, Gimli wrote:I like the idea of killing beeboy, since it's potatoing much harder than I am as a replacement.
How about narrow?
I'd prefer dueling {narrow parking, beeboy} wagons.
I agree with these wagons.

Show which you're going to vote.

Herta · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 4:13 pm

Show your votes people. Lie at your peril.

narrow parking · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:28 pm

Ranger wrote:
In post 2115, narrow parking wrote:
In post 2112, Ranger wrote:While bug/traitor are possible, today we should hunt gnosia and Gimli is essentially confirmed not-Gnosia.
what is the town +advantage of hunting gnosia tonight? We're either 9:2:1:1 or 10:2:0:1 today (town:gnosia:traitor:bug) depending on whether jada was a traitor or bad town. I don't feel comfortable spending more days limming low info lurkers when there's a 3p with an unknown win condition out there.
Nice try Gnosia but you're not going to convince us to bughunt instead of gnosia hunt.

The bug's win condition is apparently to endgame whichever faction would've won as long as the bug remains alive. The bug
does
need to die before we eliminate the last gnosia, but we've confirmation via Herta two gnosia are alive right now.

where is this said in the setup?