Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Why you targeted Meuh if she obviously gonna die

What made it obvious that anyone would die last night?
What would you have done with our role? You seem to have a lot of opinions on us having used it poorly.

We targeted Meuh in case they were targeted by something that would mess with their result.

[Enchant]

Why you targeted Meuh if she obviously gonna die

What made it obvious that anyone would die last night?
What would you have done with our role? You seem to have a lot of opinions on us having used it poorly.

We targeted Meuh in case they were targeted by something that would mess with their result.

It's Solar Dawn, Solar could kill, and CSF claimed her shield are on you.

[T-Bone]

PPF bothers me. I believe PPF is town by play. I think there are several valid reasons that make PPF unlikely to be scum. They're certainly not Lunar.

The MMR result and surrounding play is concerning. I still think the most sensible explanation for MMR's behaviour on D2 is effectively a guilty result on PPF.

I don't know how to feel more confident about PPF than I do and I'm concerned about that.

I'll be honest, I am concerned about PPF avoiding every correct flip except MMR. I was thinking about that overnight after PPF's attempt with just a few hours ago to sway the elimination off of Ydrasse, which we now know to be correct.

BUT

We know they aren't lunar aligned.

I am curious why they avoided the Rat elimination, when Rat was confirmed scum.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

You are a

Town Novice Dusk Knight

Once per day, during the dusk phase, besides dusk 1, you may post

KILL: PLAYER

. If you do, you will immediately kill that player.
If you kill a player that is the same faction of another player you have killed, you will also die. This death cannot be prevented by any means.

You win when at least one player is alive, and all living players are aligned with the

town.

This is also evidence we found for CSF's role being real

'This death cannot be prevented by any means'
Mod felt this was necessary to include
CSF's role is one of the only plausible interactions with Math's role that would necessitate that clarification

[Enchant]

I think we should ignore PPF.

I fear unknown Lunars more than Solars who proved they can just kill.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Solar could kill,

We'd only seen Solar kill once until last night

I'll once again ask, what would you have done?

PEdit: I agree that Lunar should be priority today.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

PEdit: I agree that Lunar should be priority today.

Specifically: Bella and I are heavily concerned at this point that the Lunar factional ability is Arson.

[Enchant]

Solar could kill,

We'd only seen Solar kill once until last night

I'll once again ask, what would you have done?

Solars attacked three times at dawns already.
One was blocked by CSF on Meuh. If you believe CSF you supposed to believe that as well.
Second was on MathBlade.
And third was on Meuh again.

...
I don't know who i would target. Probably my question really dumb yeah..

[T-Bone]

I agree with most of that regarding CSF, except for Rat's fakeclaim. I think Rat's fakeclaim is NAI for CSF, as Rat already proved that the Solar scumteam was willing to tie themselves together with a fakeclaim, so CSF could be part of that. But I think your points about Mueh and Mathblade's roles are more convincing and I don't think CSF is scum anymore.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I don't think Enchant is scum. I think his content and engagement with the game yesterday looked a lot like town. I don't think this is concrete. If Enchant is still around at endgame, he's someone to reevaluate. But I'm not interested in eliminating him.

[T-Bone]

I think it gets a little harder from here as I think everyone is reasonably cleared from at least one scumteam, yeah? I use the word cleared not as mod confirmed, but based on my reads of how other players have played. Meuh's flip really helps here, as they produced a few attunements that we now know are a true thing.

No, Meuh flip is harmful impact and gived us only fact that PPF is not Lunar.

Also unwmd's attunement post-mortem. Even though PPF is the only living player, I think information that is confirmed is valuable. It was also a bad kill for scum tbh. Magician and I are more optimal kills imo from a controlling information standpoint, Magician doubly so since they are townread a lot. Meuh's role is fairly harmless without the flip since they are the only ones in the town with evidence attunement isn't a made up fakeclaim.

[T-Bone]

I don't think Enchant is scum. I think his content and engagement with the game yesterday looked a lot like town. I don't think this is concrete. If Enchant is still around at endgame, he's someone to reevaluate. But I'm not interested in eliminating him.

If that was a response to me I don't think Enchant is scum either?

I need to look at my reads again but off the top of my head via townreads and PoE I don't have many options. If I hold onto all my townreads...I have PPF as the last solar and Prof as the last lunar. I don't feel 100% confident here because I was wrong on Rat being town, so odds are I have another incorrect townread somewhere. And I don't even feel confident there as I felt like I had a good reason to eliminate Prof as a lunar suspect...

I'm working on summarizing my thoughts though.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

And now here's where my current team PoE sits:

Solar: {Firebringer, PPF}
Lunar: {professotic, T-Bone}

Enchant can in theory fill either team slot but I don't think he's scum.

[Enchant]

Why Firebringer can't fill both teams.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I don't think Frozen Angel and STD were partners
I think the FA and STD argument doesn't happen the way it did if they were partners

[T-Bone]

Can someone help me out and summarize claims that haven't been flipped? I have the Mod's ISO open so I am set on flipped players.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

The most likely theory I landed on is that Lunar are priming people & will maybe activate their primed targets at some point like an arsonist does, but I don't know - even this theory I'm not particularly confident in.

I think this is likely to be accurate basically based on the info we have

[T-Bone]

And now here's where my current team PoE sits:

Solar: {Firebringer, PPF}
Lunar: {professotic, T-Bone}

Enchant can in theory fill either team slot but I don't think he's scum.

I think we're on the same page though I think FB is town (though I recognize thinking all of FB, Enchant, CSF, and Magician as town really limits my options)

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Meuh using her attunement-checking ability on me would prob only be a waste. I can act on Nights, so I doubt her attunement will clear me. She's better off using it on Ydrasse or T-Bone.

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I am a Town Guardian. I can put a shield in front of someone every Night (read: not Noons). The shield can protect from kills & negative effects and is effective from that Night until the following Night (so it can shield from dayvigs as well as kills/negative effects during Noons).

My targets were:

Night 1: Meuh
Night 2: Meuh
Night 3: DDS

So my shield is in front of DDS right now

Here's CSF's claim
Notably, it doesn't include the fact that CSF is also informed when her target is protected from a kill or negative effect

[Enchant]

Can someone help me out and summarize claims that haven't been flipped? I have the Mod's ISO open so I am set on flipped players.

We only have PPF-Dawn Princess and Dingle Iluminator or what is that.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Yep
PPF - Dawn Priestess
Essentially claims that if they're eliminated the night phases are flipped

[Enchant]

Magician didn't claim actually.

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

Wait a second
Is today the most reasonable day to test PPF's claim

[Enchant]

Or i did miss it... I update my list.

[T-Bone]

That's helpful thanks. Prof also has some sort of night commute thing but I don't know that they claimed a role name.

I've claimed VT so has Magician and Enchant. Do we know if FB has a claim?