Cosmos Mafia (Postgame)

[professotic]

VOTE: T-Bone

[professotic]

Furtive was right.
Town loses this one.

[MegAzumarill]

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[Enchant]

Furtive was right.
Town loses this one.

I am ready to talk.

[T-Bone]

I find it tough to be fatalistic in the face of 3 correct flips and just one kill at night.

[Past Present Future]

I'm probably overreacting.

Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.

I don't think that you are overreacting.

138 definitely reads like shade, to me, coming from FA.
It's completely understandable and NAI to not understand the mech in a closed setup.
VOTE: FA
-Rubella

If we’re assuming if scum, Ydrasse is more likely Lunar, does this really sound like something a buddy would say?

I suppose anything’s possible but MMR played so badly and I just don’t see them performing any 3d chess moves.

I think this looks more like white knighting to me than SvS.

I have no idea who to vote for but won’t be shocked if Ydrasse flips town.

[professotic]

Furtive was right.
Town loses this one.

I am ready to talk.

I mean if you want to be OCD and think in your hand me thinking 3 wolves on each side is a scum slip go right ahead.
But it isn’t, cause I’m town.

[professotic]

I'm probably overreacting.

Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.

I don't think that you are overreacting.

138 definitely reads like shade, to me, coming from FA.
It's completely understandable and NAI to not understand the mech in a closed setup.
VOTE: FA
-Rubella

If we’re assuming if scum, Ydrasse is more likely Lunar, does this really sound like something a buddy would say?

I suppose anything’s possible but MMR played so badly and I just don’t see them performing any 3d chess moves.

I think this looks more like white knighting to me than SvS.

I have no idea who to vote for but won’t be shocked if Ydrasse flips town.

Ydrass won’t, we need to vote elsewhere.

Do you want to vote T-Bone?
CSF?

Fuck I’ll even vote Dingle if it becomes a wagon.

[professotic]

I said I wouldn’t vote Dingle due to wagonomics I found but I can always chance my mind on that.

[Enchant]

Can you explain Dingle as i have them as green

[Past Present Future]

Although Scarf seemed to believe it did based on his role though?

I’ve been wondering about this because Scarf claimed vt. Did Scarf posit this theory before or after MMR flip?

[Past Present Future]

I'm probably overreacting.

Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.

I don't think that you are overreacting.

138 definitely reads like shade, to me, coming from FA.
It's completely understandable and NAI to not understand the mech in a closed setup.
VOTE: FA
-Rubella

If we’re assuming if scum, Ydrasse is more likely Lunar, does this really sound like something a buddy would say?

I suppose anything’s possible but MMR played so badly and I just don’t see them performing any 3d chess moves.

I think this looks more like white knighting to me than SvS.

I have no idea who to vote for but won’t be shocked if Ydrasse flips town.

Ydrass won’t, we need to vote elsewhere.

Do you want to vote T-Bone?
CSF?

Fuck I’ll even vote Dingle if it becomes a wagon.

I don’t want to vote CSF or Dangle. Sell me on T-Bone?

I also want to ask T-Bone you were pushing Prof really hard before, have you changed your read on him? If not, why Ydrasse?

[Meuh]

Meuh what you think about prof

Probably town. I think they’re surface level scummy in a few ways that make me uncomfortable but ultimately I don’t really think they are.
Their focus on specific cults before Porkens’ flip was definitely weird. However, with their thoughts seeming genuine, I don’t really think Prof can be lunar scum because of the way they played dawn 2. (Remember them thinking DDS/Tbone lunar was the solve?) Plus, I think their positioning on the Porkens wagon was good, which also means they’re unlikely to be solar (bussing is dumb in this setup, I seriously doubt scum haven’t noticed it)

[Meuh]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.

I don’t really see what point you’re making here.
If anything, the fact Porkens gained momentum and Ydrasse didn’t despite similar positioning in the game points to Ydrasse having scum buddies protecting her.

[Past Present Future]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.

I don’t really see what point you’re making here.
If anything, the fact Porkens gained momentum and Ydrasse didn’t despite similar positioning in the game points to Ydrasse having scum buddies protecting her.

Explain?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@mod can you prod DDS

[Meuh]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.

I don’t really see what point you’re making here.
If anything, the fact Porkens gained momentum and Ydrasse didn’t despite similar positioning in the game points to Ydrasse having scum buddies protecting her.

Explain?

So the way I see it: Ydrasse and Porkens' wagons happened one after the other, they were in similar positions of influence (both not super present, though at least Ydrasse existed) and had a similar amount of towncred. So there must be a reason why Porkens went through, and Ydrasse didn't.
Either:
1. Ydrasse is lunar scum who had one or two influential (high thread presence/high towncred) partners that prevented the lim on her from going through. Someone like T-bone, CSF or DDS is lunar scum and had her back.
2. Ydrasse just happened to be townread by key players, which prevented her from being limmed. (NAI in nature)

Because of the aforementioned similar positions from Porkens and Ydrasse, I find the first option more likely and specifically the idea of lunar!Ydrasse quite likely. and even if it wasn't a or some partners responsible for her living, she can still very much be scum.

If you think Ydrasse is town, I'd like to know: Why do you think she wasn't limmed, but Porkens was?

[Past Present Future]

@mod can you prod DDS

+1

Ydrasse too, please.

[Ydrasse]

i’m here erm that one burst of energy was about all i’m capable of
for this game i think

ask direct questions and i’ll answer after i do some irl stuff
will vote whatever wagon that wasn’t in my trs

[Meuh]

Looked at the activity tracker and realized this game's been happening for 70 days now, wow.

[Past Present Future]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.

I don’t really see what point you’re making here.
If anything, the fact Porkens gained momentum and Ydrasse didn’t despite similar positioning in the game points to Ydrasse having scum buddies protecting her.

Explain?

So the way I see it: Ydrasse and Porkens' wagons happened one after the other, they were in similar positions of influence (both not super present, though at least Ydrasse existed) and had a similar amount of towncred. So there must be a reason why Porkens went through, and Ydrasse didn't.
Either:
1. Ydrasse is lunar scum who had one or two influential (high thread presence/high towncred) partners that prevented the lim on her from going through. Someone like T-bone, CSF or DDS is lunar scum and had her back.
2. Ydrasse just happened to be townread by key players, which prevented her from being limmed. (NAI in nature)

Because of the aforementioned similar positions from Porkens and Ydrasse, I find the first option more likely and specifically the idea of lunar!Ydrasse quite likely. and even if it wasn't a or some partners responsible for her living, she can still very much be scum.

If you think Ydrasse is town, I'd like to know: Why do you think she wasn't limmed, but Porkens was?

Well, my theory was he was a nullread and people didn’t want the day to drag on another year without a replacement.

And if Ydrasse is town, what would your reads be then?

[Past Present Future]

My gut is telling me it’s not her but I don’t have any idea who it is but I still think that post I quoted looks antipartnery and her being on Scarf is a good look.

[Meuh]

There was a REASON i switched from Ydrass to Porkens and started the Porkens wagon cause Ydrass was Townie.

I don’t really see what point you’re making here.
If anything, the fact Porkens gained momentum and Ydrasse didn’t despite similar positioning in the game points to Ydrasse having scum buddies protecting her.

Explain?

So the way I see it: Ydrasse and Porkens' wagons happened one after the other, they were in similar positions of influence (both not super present, though at least Ydrasse existed) and had a similar amount of towncred. So there must be a reason why Porkens went through, and Ydrasse didn't.
Either:
1. Ydrasse is lunar scum who had one or two influential (high thread presence/high towncred) partners that prevented the lim on her from going through. Someone like T-bone, CSF or DDS is lunar scum and had her back.
2. Ydrasse just happened to be townread by key players, which prevented her from being limmed. (NAI in nature)

Because of the aforementioned similar positions from Porkens and Ydrasse, I find the first option more likely and specifically the idea of lunar!Ydrasse quite likely. and even if it wasn't a or some partners responsible for her living, she can still very much be scum.

If you think Ydrasse is town, I'd like to know: Why do you think she wasn't limmed, but Porkens was?

Well, my theory was he was a nullread and people didn’t want the day to drag on another year without a replacement.

And if Ydrasse is town, what would your reads be then?

Assuming 3/3:
My read on FB being solar scum stays the same.
I think Ydrasse flipping town narrows the scumpool enough that T-bone can just be scum, lunar is the only scum team for him that makes sense.
The other lunar at first glance would have to be Enchant? But honestly Ydrasse flipping town would force me to reevaluate the Scarf/Junko/Magician slot. I wrote it off as town much earlier and haven't reevaluated much, so it'd be the perfect blindspot for scum to hide.
I have a hard time finding enough scum in this pool of players, lots of good vibes.

[T-Bone]

Although Scarf seemed to believe it did based on his role though?

I’ve been wondering about this because Scarf claimed vt. Did Scarf posit this theory before or after MMR flip?

iirc correctly this originally came from Day 1 after Mastina had claimed? Because I had made an ask of whether anyone had attunement in their Role PMs because I didn't. Enchant had also said so and then Scarf was like 'shush you vt claims will give the game away'. I had assumed it was because of Scarf's role and that's why I had stopped pushing the attunement issue. Since it was weird, (and still is in some respects) weird to me that only one player's role mentions attunement to be a thing.

Thinking about that, why did Rat never take issue with attunements? Certainly if you're scum that's the type of thing you can confidentially say exists or doesn't exist, right?

[T-Bone]

I also want to ask T-Bone you were pushing Prof really hard before, have you changed your read on him? If not, why Ydrasse?

tbh I thought Prof made more sense as Solar scum, due to his wild insistence that he wanted to punish Lunar and wanted Solar to win. He's definitely not Solar. I already contested the credit he tried to claim for the Solar eliminations, but one thing is certain. Porken's flip condemned Rat, so I don't think the last Solar person was on that wagon. The only way I could buy it is if we flipped Porkens before Prof could try to walk it back (IE a vote that got out of hands while they were offline). He no longer exists in the space where he could be either team in my eyes. Really, only one player is left on this playerlist I feel fits on both teams (Ydrasse).