Gnosia Game over!

[Esooa]

Enchant was claiming their character.
We are all randomly given one in our Role PM, irrespective of alignment and role.
A list of them (excluding the Protag) are listed below.

But there is no role which RB's people after they target them in the other post I quoted

TBH, Ripple is just a bad host and explained nothing and I see nothing in the OP

So I guess I do need help, because I don't understand the setup at all atm

[Freedom]

Enchant was claiming their character.
We are all randomly given one in our Role PM, irrespective of alignment and role.
A list of them (excluding the Protag) are listed below.

But there is no role which RB's people after they target them in the other post I quoted

TBH, Ripple is just a bad host and explained nothing and I see nothing in the OP

So I guess I do need help, because I don't understand the setup at all atm

It's because Enchant's character ability is Passive Reflexive Roleblocker.
It's not a role.

[Esooa]

Enchant was claiming their character.
We are all randomly given one in our Role PM, irrespective of alignment and role.
A list of them (excluding the Protag) are listed below.

But there is no role which RB's people after they target them in the other post I quoted

TBH, Ripple is just a bad host and explained nothing and I see nothing in the OP

So I guess I do need help, because I don't understand the setup at all atm

It's because Enchant's character ability is Passive Reflexive Roleblocker.
It's not a role.

I mean, that is a "role" to me. It's an ability someone has lol. But sure. So then this game is basically role madness?

[Esooa]

I'll save some questions for later, and hopefully pick it up reading from SoD2

[Freedom]

Enchant was claiming their character.
We are all randomly given one in our Role PM, irrespective of alignment and role.
A list of them (excluding the Protag) are listed below.

But there is no role which RB's people after they target them in the other post I quoted

TBH, Ripple is just a bad host and explained nothing and I see nothing in the OP

So I guess I do need help, because I don't understand the setup at all atm

It's because Enchant's character ability is Passive Reflexive Roleblocker.
It's not a role.

I mean, that is a "role" to me. It's an ability someone has lol. But sure. So then this game is basically role madness?

Kinda.
Though, not all Character abilities are roles as Ranger's claimed ability converted the previous Day to a standard one.
Mine is Percentage One-Shot Diplomat, allowing me to avoid one elimination if I win a dice roll.
Math and FG both claimed to have Polygraph-like abilities.
Drap claimed to be a Universal Ability Backup. (He didn't say if it was limited to his allies or not, but he seems to believe that it doesn't.)
And Roden is a Neighborizer. (I don't remember if he said that if it's X-Shot or not.)

[Ranger]

VOTE: Jessica Rabbit

For those wanting to do the same work I'm doing, this here is the beginning of the change in game from pre-Jessica-wagon to Jessica elimination.

ProfessorDrapion's replace-in was where it began. Prior to that, Marashu (his slot) was the largest wagon.

[Roden]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

[Freedom]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

I agree.
TBH I am kinda of leaning towards a Jada+narrow scumteam rn.

[MathBlade]

Enchant was claiming their character.
We are all randomly given one in our Role PM, irrespective of alignment and role.
A list of them (excluding the Protag) are listed below.

But there is no role which RB's people after they target them in the other post I quoted

TBH, Ripple is just a bad host and explained nothing and I see nothing in the OP

So I guess I do need help, because I don't understand the setup at all atm

Me stepping you through your role PM if you are a VT would probably be too close to mod confirmable.

I am not sure if you’re familiar with MS but if you click on the spoiler buttons that may help.

[MathBlade]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

Why do you say we double up?

[Ranger]

TBH I am kinda of leaning towards a Jada+narrow scumteam rn.

That, or Jada + beeboy, would be my current assumption.

I'm still rereading, on page 44.

I'd encourage others to do what I am doing right now and reread this section of the game knowing Jessica is Gnosia.

[Roden]

the main one is that i would know in case i would like to use my ability on them

I see.
It was me.

State your human.

A human containing a voice and vote.

Setsu

's character power is quite literally just called '

Vote

'. (No, seriously.)
I've other 'crumbs if need be, but should be obvious it was me. xD

What does my identity have to do with anything Ranger?

While alts can change many aspects of how a player plays, some traits remain regardless of account. I believe you'd be disinclined to bus, and your D1 play with Jessica Gnosia supports that.

Interesting. I assumed scum used this ability and that we could find them through a mass claim sometime down the road.

Why did you wait to claim this?

[narrow parking]

Why is it hard to townread me?

tbh almost every post u make almost indicates an aversion to playing the game or any protown imperative at all
ur slot is kinda also only somewhat cleared cuz the wagon looks like a really hasty push to let obvscum live another night

don't u have stardew gameplay to watch?

come back when u have reads

Why are you so rude?

Some people get reads through interactions.

i prefer to be described as ornery... but seriously i am starting to get annoyed by the elmo/esooa slot and this game in general.
i mean seriously, i have no reads cuz my gf is playing stardew xD like whaaat?? but im gonna keep posting random setup questions?

feels like everyone is getting away w the most random shit this game its mindboggling

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

ill pretend like this is fair interpretation of my point and the context; i find it boring. i also feel like the amount of mech talk in this game exceeds what i expect to be normal for an open setup of this size. my memory might be off since i haven't played in a while, maybe there was always like 75% mech talk d1 in large themes and im bugging, whatever. my point was that its not necessary to read every post in depth since a good amount of them can be chalked up to mech talk

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

don't think this is the serve u think it is

[Freedom]

Wait.

@mod

Has beeboy been prodded?

[Roden]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

Why do you say we double up?

Engineer, Doctor, GA, and both Guard Duty slots also have character skills. In addition to the five VTs with character skills, that means there are 15 town abilities in play.

[MathBlade]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

Why do you say we double up?

Engineer, Doctor, GA, and both Guard Duty slots also have character skills. In addition to the five VTs with character skills, that means there are 15 town abilities in play.

Why do you say only 5?

[Ranger]

VOTE: Jessica Rabbit

This was the second vote on Jessica, from our conftown.

VOTE: Jessica Rabbit

VOTE: FakeGod
If you’re going to vote me knowing I can be confirmed town tonight, then you obviously aren’t.

I do think, given context, FakeGod is not Gnosia, but I still put him near top of the charts for Traitor/Bug. Since Gnosia is our priority today, he's not my focus tho.

On page 45, MathBlade's interactions also feel possible Traitor/Bug, but not Gnosia. This is fueled further here:

VOTE: Jada
I can see Jada + Rabbit.

Yet you vote Jada, not Rabbit who was voted by conftown.

Yeah if Jessica isn’t Mason they are wolf, Period. Tbh.

I don't think Drapion is Traitor, but can still be Bug.

I'm not voting a Nancy that takes personal offense at being scumread. That's Nancy's script for being town.

I feel Jada has a high chance of being Gnosia from this.

[Ranger]

Why did you wait to claim this?

Why would I claim it? I saw no reason to. Nobody brought forth reason until shiki did. I left enough breadcrumbs in my iso to make it obvious (131 shows why I used it); past that, I saw no need.

[Ranger]

Narrow and beeboy are good votes.

This gives me some pause to Jessica Rabbit + Jada + {narrow parking, beeboy} as the team of 3.

Open question (I assure you, not rhetorical; am serious): do you think Jada tries to divert attention away from Jessica Rabbit onto the third scumbuddy, by including a town player in it?
...As I was typing that out in the process of typing it out I realized what I was saying though so: yes, I do.

Obviously, still reading, but I would bet Jada as scum with Jessica, with the third as one of narrow parking/beeboy and the other as not-Gnosia thrown in for Jada to attempt to make the elimination.

[MathBlade]

Narrow and beeboy are good votes.

This gives me some pause to Jessica Rabbit + Jada + {narrow parking, beeboy} as the team of 3.

Open question (I assure you, not rhetorical; am serious): do you think Jada tries to divert attention away from Jessica Rabbit onto the third scumbuddy, by including a town player in it?
...As I was typing that out in the process of typing it out I realized what I was saying though so: yes, I do.

Obviously, still reading, but I would bet Jada as scum with Jessica, with the third as one of narrow parking/beeboy and the other as not-Gnosia thrown in for Jada to attempt to make the elimination.

I am not sure

There’s too much I don’t know to answer it.

I do know from Jada not theorizing or moonlogicking or throwing anything at the wall she’s more likely scum.

I am legit still sad we haven’t mass claimed. We really should in flipless.

[Ranger]

VOTE: Elmo
Let's vote here.

Jessica, vote w me please ...

This makes me disinclined to believe the Elmo slot is Gnosia, but Bug/Traitor both make sense still.

I could vote Elmo or beeyboy, I guess. I’m not tr either.

VOTE: Elmo

This supports that as well, and very weakly suggests narrow parking is the most likely third.

just caught up, jessica's rant was very scum indicative imo... elmo feels like a scum counterwagon and has less of my town reads on it
VOTE: Jessica

E-1

I still prefer enchant but this is better.

Vibes-wise this feels like a bus vote to me.

Ranger started the wagon. What’s your read on Ranger?

i town read ranger

Drapion's logic here was sound, as it feels narrow parking's stance lacks nuance.

[Freedom]

Narrow and beeboy are good votes.

This gives me some pause to Jessica Rabbit + Jada + {narrow parking, beeboy} as the team of 3.

Open question (I assure you, not rhetorical; am serious): do you think Jada tries to divert attention away from Jessica Rabbit onto the third scumbuddy, by including a town player in it?
...As I was typing that out in the process of typing it out I realized what I was saying though so: yes, I do.

Obviously, still reading, but I would bet Jada as scum with Jessica, with the third as one of narrow parking/beeboy and the other as not-Gnosia thrown in for Jada to attempt to make the elimination.

I feel like that Jada might as it seems like a common scum tactic to do so.

[Roden]

half this fkn game is mech spam anyway

Why do you think this?
Calling it spam, makes me think that you'd prefer we avoid mech discussion.

Considering the mod gave town 10 character roles, and then let 5 of us double up with town power roles, I'm sure scum are afraid that we can mech solve this game. Jessica's Block Argument not activating probably stings even more, since they seem to have so little counter play as it is.

Why do you say we double up?

Engineer, Doctor, GA, and both Guard Duty slots also have character skills. In addition to the five VTs with character skills, that means there are 15 town abilities in play.

Why do you say only 5?

Because there are only 5.

Why did you wait to claim this?

Why would I claim it? I saw no reason to. Nobody brought forth reason until shiki did. I left enough breadcrumbs in my iso to make it obvious (131 shows why I used it); past that, I saw no need.

A common concern when it happened was that town didn't really have any reason not to claim it, especially since when it did happen it felt too coincidental with conversation at the time talking about keeping track of votes.

[Ranger]

{Not Known 15, Herta}
{Enchant}
--
{Roden, Shiki}
--
{ProfessorDrapion}
--
{MathBlade}
{FakeGod}
{Esooa}
--
{Freedom}
{beeboy}
{narrow parking}
{Jada}

More hard-separations in my tierlist than ideal, but appropriate. Drapion not Traitor/Gnosia, but possible Bug. FakeGod/MathBlade/Esooa not Gnosia, but possible Traitor/Bug.

Last 2 Gnosia in {Freedom, beeboy, narrow parking, Jada}; as Gnosia are our priority today, prefer Jada > narrow parking.

If I had to guess Bug it'd be Drapion > FakeGod > MathBlade; if I had to guess Traitor it'd be Esooa > beeboy > Freedom = MathBlade > FakeGod. But as Gnosia are priority today, these are formalities.

[Freedom]

TBH, should we actually massclaim abilities?