Xyl's Relative Chaos - Game over!

[Korts]

especially since korts was the one to bring up the subject in the first place! korts, what did you think you would achieve by bringing up the weird VC if you didn't want any further discussion of it

I'd brought it up because it had just occured to me that it might have some relevance. I didn't think my post through, much like tubby; but his phrasing and the fact that he suggested a theory that, if commented on in any way by others, might easily out power roles, was something that I could easily attack.

It's the biggest deal as of now, CC09... serious or not.

really? this is stretching it, to me.

I didn't like how he was avoiding my request to put his vote somewhere or adequately justify not voting. And "not having any suspicions" does not justify, especially early in the game, his vote staying away from any player, because without voting, it's hard to acquire suspicions. And I didn't see Coheed trying to stimulate discussion in any other way, either.

not true at all. if you don't vote at all in the game, then yes that's bad. but i'm sure CC planned on voting at some point in day 1.

I'm sure he was. My beef was with his unvote without anything else (while discussion had already begun), which implied lurking until that specific point in day 1.

[Korts]

So you say that suggesting a theory that, both if confirmed or denied, hurts the town, cannot be percieved as intentional or unintentional rolefishing?

it could be by some

, but i didn't think it was and i felt those who did think it was were trying to push a crap case

And there you have your point disproved

[tubby216]

tubby216

: i didn't see anything wrong with his initial post, but when he OMGUSed Korts that caught my attention. definitely don't like his vote for crazy because he defended him. however, i think he steps it up and posts a decent case on Korts (besides a little WIFOM in the middle there). i don't really understand his latest vote on cow. tubby, can you explain that?

my vote on doom cow was because i wanted him to explain where he was coming from,

my first post about the vote, i used the therm "power roles" and what i thought that term to mean was some one with a night action, be they scum or town,

then i suspected korts but seeing as how at the time i really diddn't have a case on him anything i would have posted seemed like it would be OMGUS so i mentioned it

then when crazy defended me it diddn't make sense to me i was greatful but it made me raise an eyebrow i was thinkin who is this guy and why is he so sure i am innocent?? so thats why i voted for him,

then the whole WIFOM thing about korts kinda popped into my head so i posted about that too.

now i am trying to read and be more methodical about my posts and really gather some information before i allow my corpral diharera take over(just typing for the sake of typing and not really thinkin about what i am typing) and answer every questioned asked to the best of my ability.

[farside22]

Well dahill has relieved me of my initial suspicious on The Internet. It is anti town, but when someone does it in the case he did where as he says there is nothing going on and leaves I just found it scummy.
Anyways as for Tubby which Vi wants an answer from me. I felt his first few post were bad. No hold bars bad. The vote for Crazy for defending him was terrible. Also I always, always feel suspciious when people defend others especially when something is scummy. Not oh he is a newbie type comment is unacceptable.
However I feel I need to reread again to really see a few things. I did not CC's vote on Tubby felt very opportunist.

unvote

Will have a vote after I reread this game.

[Xylthixlm]

Vote Count

tubby216 -

4

(SpyreX, ZazieR, DrippingGoofball, CoheedCambria09)
DoomCow -

2

(hasdgfas, tubby216)
DrippingGoofball -

2

(Vi, DoomCow)
Korts -

1

(Crazy)
SpyreX -

1

(Korts)
dahill1 -

1

(animorpherv1)
MafiaSSK -

1

(Natirasha)
CoheedCambria09 -

1

(dahill1)

Not voting: MafiaSSK, farside22

With 15 alive, it will take 8 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 will be Saturday, December 6.

[SpyreX]

Dahill is partially right - I am focused on Tubby but thats because I still find it a solid tell.

I've made comments about the PR's, but I'll go back and do a read and give my feeligns on it over the weekend hopefully.

[animorpherv1]

animorpherv1

: Votes crazy with this as an explanation:

Crazy seems to be a little, crazy, to me. It doesn't seem like what he's saying is sincere.

can you explain this? what specifically do you not thinking he's sincere in saying? Has general non-game related posts for the most part. Votes DoomCow but it seems a little OMGUS, IMO. Places a vote on the Internet for a fair reason, but a little hypocritical since his own posts are mainly just QFT, fake PR, or overall not game related posts.

TI part: At least I was posting, he wasn't. That's the general reason behind that.

DoomCow part: I had a bad day, and snapped at that.

Crazy part: I thought something that he was saying didn't sound right. That bad?

QFT, fake PR etc: Bored.

MMainly, I don't play many Mafiascum mafia games, so yeah. I have to get used to being a punctual poster, with actualy information.

[MafiaSSK]

Still reading..

[hasdgfas]

Requesting replacement. I'm bored, I don't understand it, and would like to dedicate my energies to my other games. Sorry.

Seriously, what's so complicated???

Scum infighting?

what?

[Korts]

This game needs a kick in the ass.

[Xylthixlm]

If this was day 2 and you had no banked deadline time, deadline would have just passed.

[farside22]

Busy today. May try and get to this tomorrow. Don't expect anything till Monday.

[DrippingGoofball]

I like where my vote is.

[dahill1]

So you say that suggesting a theory that, both if confirmed or denied, hurts the town, cannot be percieved as intentional or unintentional rolefishing?

it could be by some

, but i didn't think it was and i felt those who did think it was were trying to push a crap case

And there you have your point disproved

many people perceive things the wrong way

Crazy part: I thought something that he was saying didn't sound right. That bad?

what specifically?

sorry for brief posts RL has been aarrrrgh so i might be on a much longer LA than expected

[animorpherv1]

Mainly for buddying up to tubby a lot. But there's something I can't quite place my hand on, on both you and Crazy.

[Crazy]

Crazy 240 wrote:
Yes, but he can't be scum because he's a newbie.

Syntax failure ahoy!

Oops. What I meant was... "Being a newbie does not make him scum."

I did as someone in this game knows

Okay, well, you're an odd case, then.

Sorry for being so quiet, RL has been a bitch lately

I'm also hella confused with this whole game so far, I guess I should have expected that though with the name of relative chaos.

And seeing as its supposed to be chaotic:

unvote, vote tubby

Can we kill you? I mean, bandwagoning for no reason?

. Not necessarily. Town and scum alike make crap cases, so that doesn't really affect the likelihood that tubby is scum or town.

Slightly, actually... but that margin is so small that it's not worth getting into, which is why I said "meh" at the end of that quote.

i lolled so hard when i read this...so let's get this straight you were pressuring tubby for reactions? i usually only see scum do this type of thing in which they afterwards say they did it "for reactions". looking for reactions can pretty much be an excuse for anything. ex- me:hey i'm scum vote: me.
player 2: omg he's scum vote: him
me: HA ONLY SCUM WOULD JOIN THAT WAGON SINCE THEY KNOW IM REALLY TOWN I WAS LOOKING FOR REACTIONS VOTE: YOU!!

You're awesome, btw.

[Crazy]

Dang, I realize that post is going to look confusing for someone not knowing what I'm talking about. Let me clarify:

ZazieR was talking about doing something that looks scummy in order to look more town.

Dahill's first quote was about my quote where I was commenting about how tubby was being attacked by crap cases which might make him slightly more likely to be town, but meh...

Dahill's second quote was about Korts' change-of-plan.

[hasdgfas]

can anyone point me to the main case on tubby? I'm not quite sure what it is besides him playing badly.

[SpyreX]

I've been sucked into WoW, but I will give an extensive post later.

Its not playing badly, its playing scum-badly.

[dahill1]

not liking the tubby wagon..
what does everyone think about CC?

[Korts]

My vote's willing to go that way. I didn't really find his reluctance to vote especially helpful, particularly because he didn't try to do anything else, either.

[dahill1]

My vote's willing to go that way. I didn't really find his reluctance to vote especially helpful, particularly because he didn't try to do anything else, either.

the main part was that incredibly opportunistic vote on tubby

[Korts]

Which one was that?

[Korts]

Which one was that?

[Korts]

Damn. sorry. Glitch in the matrix.