Mini 702--Serum & Steel(The rust has settled/Game Over)

[SpyreX]

That goes along with my whole "If there are two scum metals we're boned" theory.

If I can change my votes to make sure its used, fine. I dont think I can though.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count
SpyreX(6): Timeater, TonyMontana, SpyreX, CF Riot, Porkens, Seraphim
ortolan(1): Gremwell
Not Voting: MafiaSSK, geraintm, Porkens, Wall-E, ortolan
--SpyreX needs 1 to lynch--
--ortolan needs 6 to lynch--

Serum Count
MafiaSSK(9): Timeater, ortolan, TonyMontana, geraintm, Wall-E, Seraphim, Illumina, SpyreX, Gremwell
Not Seruming: CF Riot, MafiaSSK, Porkens
MafiaSSK has reached majority of Serum votes.

Mycosynth Count
Wall-E(5): Illumina, Gremwell, timeater, CF Riot, Porkens
Timeater(3): SpyreX, Wall-E, Seraphim
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, timeater, geraintm.
--2 to synth Wall-E--
--4 to synth timeater--

To lynch/mycosynth/serum: Seven
Deadline: 11/14

[TonyMontana]

Mycosynth Count
Wall-E(4): Seraphim, Illumina, Gremwell, timeater
Timeater(4): SpyreX, Porkens, CF Riot, Wall-E
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, timeater, geraintm.

I count 11 names. (Hint: I am missing)

I'll make it easy and re-synth:

Mycosynth:Timeater

[SpyreX]

It looks liek we sure can synth TE if we want.

[SpyreX]

P.S. tomorrow dont get locked into the serum debate and look for scum, maybe?

[Wall-E]

That goes along with my whole "If there are two scum metals we're boned" theory.

If I can change my votes to make sure its used, fine. I dont think I can though.

Put your money where your mouth is and TRY it. This loud bemoaning whilst failing to at least try is SCUMMY AS F#$#

[SpyreX]

It LOOKS like they can from the last vote count.

Honestly, I'm dead. I can look scummy all I want.

P.S. I'm not sure how that could be scummy considering I want TE synthed ffs.

[CF Riot]

I was about to say something about how synthing TE is near impossible in this scenario but I just noticed the synth count is wrong. It shows TE as voting Wall and also not voting, so only 10 people are represented. Assuming everyone stays where they were when it was posted, it should be:

Wall-E(4): Seraphim, Illumina, Gremwell, timeater
Timeater(4): SpyreX, Porkens, CF Riot, Wall-E
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, geraintm, ortolan, Tony Montana.

Also, I found this, his most recent post:

[face_palm]

Unsynth Unvote
Synth: Timeeater
Vote: Spyrex

I was confused by the miscount. Assuming Tony's vote is counted, and if Pork and I can change back, we could have:

Wall-E(3): Illumina, Gremwell, timeater
Timeater(6): SpyreX, Porkens, CF Riot, Wall-E, Tony Montana, Seraphim
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, geraintm, ortolan.

This would be great for me.

Unsynth, Synth: Timeater

[CF Riot]

Geez, that said I think I'm off the computer for the day. This has been the most intense D1 of any game I've played on MS so far, but dinner with my woman is still > lynching scum. This most recent votecount is off too, with Porkens voting and not voting and a couple people missing. I hope you guys sort through it all and do what's best.

[Nicol Bolas]

Please continue to alert me of any V.C.s are incorrect. I have good access for the next ~4 hours so yeah. Expect V.C.s to be frequent and quick.

Vote Count
SpyreX(6): Timeater, TonyMontana, SpyreX, CF Riot, Porkens, Seraphim
ortolan(1): Gremwell
Not Voting: MafiaSSK, geraintm, Porkens, Wall-E, ortolan
--SpyreX needs 1 to lynch--
--ortolan needs 6 to lynch--

Serum Count
MafiaSSK(9): Timeater, ortolan, TonyMontana, geraintm, Wall-E, Seraphim, Illumina, SpyreX, Gremwell
Not Seruming: CF Riot, MafiaSSK, Porkens
MafiaSSK has reached majority of Serum votes.

Mycosynth Count
Wall-E(4): Seraphim, Illumina, Gremwell, timeater
Timeater(5): SpyreX, Porkens, CF Riot, Wall-E, TonyMontana
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, geraintm, ortolan
--3 to synth Wall-E--
--2 to synth timeater--

To lynch/mycosynth/serum: Seven
Deadline: 11/14

[Timeater]

I will plead now.

LET ME SAY FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME: MYCOSYNTHING ME TODAY IS PARAMOUNT TO LYNCHING A CLAIMED DOCTOR OR COP D1. IT IS THE SAME SITUATION. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE SCUM.

I WILL MYCO VOTE MYSELF THE START OF DAY THREE IF I HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED BY ANY RANDOM SERUM USER. THIS IS MY OATH.

THE SCUM CANNOT WIN WITHOUT MYCOING THE METAL TOWNIE(S). THINK ABOUT THAT. CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT SPYREX IS KAMIKAZING HIMSELF TO GET RID OF THE BIGGEST SCUM THREAT THEY CURRENTLY KNOW OF. PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT.

[SpyreX]

YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR NOR A COP AND ANY REAL VALUE YOU HAD AS A METAL WAS ELIMINATED WHEN YOU CLAIMED METAL AT SUCH A TIME THE TOWN HAD NO REASON TO BELIEVE YOU

AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED DAY THREE WOULD BE PERFECT AS SCUM BECAUSE THE GAME WOULD BE LOST DAY FOUR.

THE SCUM CAN TOTALLY WIN WITHOUT MYCOING THE METAL TOWNIES AS LONG AS WE MYSLYNCH. YOU YOURSELF SAID THAT YOU THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE. WHY NOW IS THE TUNE CHANGING

CAPS LOCK IS FUN

[MafiaSSK]

Ah great. Forgot I replaced in. I'll have a read in tomorrow.

[Timeater]

PONTIFICATE!

MORE CAPS

1#) SORRY BUT THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS. THE VALUE OF ME BEING METAL DOES NOT FLUX DEPENDING IF PEOPLE BELIEVE ME OR NOT, GOOD TRY THOUGH. ASKING FOR RANDOM SERUM BENEFICIARIES TO INVESTIGATE ME IS A FLAWLESS TOWNIE PLAN. WHY WOULD A SCUMMER DO THAT?

2#) ASSUMING WE HAVE 2 STEEL SCUM AND ONE FLESH SCUM (WHICH WOULD BE EXTRA HARDMODE IMO, AND SORT IF IMPLAUSIBLE) WE HAVE UNTIL THERE ARE SEVEN PEOPLE ALIVE BEFORE LYLO ASSUMING WE HAVEN'T LYNCHED ANY SCUM. THIS IS ALSO ASSUMING WE DO NOT LYNCH A METALLOID, OR WE CREATE ANOTHER TOWNIE METALLOID. AT THE BEGINNING OF DAY THREE, 8 PEOPLE WILL BE ALIVE. IF EVERYONE IS SURE I AM STEEL SCUM, WOULD I NOT BE PUTTING THE NAILS IN MY COFFIN FOR DAY FOUR? OR AM I ACTUALLY FLESH SCUM AND HAVE BEEN LYING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING? YEA THATS IT!!!!

3#) YOU CAN TOTALLY WIN WITHOUT MYCOING THE METAL TOWNIES. UM, NO. PRETTY SURE MOST SCUM'S WIN CONDITION IS: YOU WIN WHEN ALL TOWNIES ARE DEAD OR COMPROMISE A MAJORITY OVER THE TOWN. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY HARD TIME IN THE ENDGAME ACCOMPLISHING A 'MYSLYNCH" WHICH I TAKE TO MEAN ITS LYNCHING SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A CLAIMED METALOID, TO ACHIEVE THE MAJORITY. IT WILL BE BLATANTLY TRANSPARENT. ALSO, I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I HAVE AN OPEN MIND CONCERNING METAL TOWNIES. I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE. PLEASE DO KEEP TRYING TO TWIST MY WORDS TO SUIT WHATEVER ARGUEMENT YOU ARE MAKING. IT MAKES YOU LOOK REALLY GREAT.

[SpyreX]

1.) YOU ARE NOW ON RECORD SAYING THAT A BULLETPROOF / LYNCHPROOF ROLE THAT WE HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THERE ARE SCUM COUNTERPARTS HAS NO INHERENT INCREASE IN VALUE IF THE PLAYER IS KNOWN OR AT LEAST TO BE FELT AS TOWN BEFORE THE STATUS OF METAL IS KNOWN.

ALSO CONSIDERING THE PROBABILITY THAT SERUM RECIPIENTS WILL BE ELIMINATED YOUR ATTEMPT AT ASKING FOR A COP IF IT EXISTS IS TRANSPARENT AND EVEN ON THE CHANCE IT HAPPENS AS LONG AS IT IS NOT TONIGHT YOU ARE EXACTLY IN WHAT IS STATED AT POINT TWO THANK YOU FOR PLAYING.

2.) 8 MINUS A LYNCH MINUS A NK IS 6. IF THERE ARE THREE SCUM THEN THE GAME ENDS AT THAT POINT. MATHEMATICS.

3.) IF THERE ARE ONE OR TWO METAL TOWNIES THEN YES IT WOULD BE EASY TO WIN WITHOUT THEM BEING ELIMINATED FOR SCUM. YOU HAVE SAID MORE THAN ONCE IN AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE SYNTH OFF YOU THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY TOWN METALLOID SO THIS WHOLE THERE MAY BE MORE IS A CHANGE IN YOUR STANCE.

CAPS LOCK IS STILL FUN

[Seraphim]

I just thought of something. Do you think it's entirely possible that there may be a town-aligned role that is able to distribute serum? I've thinking through this game and if there's even one metal scum, it means the town is at a major disadvantage. If the only way to distribute powers is through majority vote, the scum know who all the power roles are. A simple way to block that would be a character who would be able to give serum to other players.

Any thoughts?

[SpyreX]

An interesting question but honestly now is not the time. That conjecture may be a decent start for tomorrow though depending on how tonight goes.

Now that you've proven you are here how about moving that synth over.

[Seraphim]

...urm...I am voting to synth Timeater?

[SpyreX]

Last votecount has you on Wall-E I think.

[Seraphim]

According to the vote count, I guess I'm not.

Unsynth
Synth: Timeater

[SpyreX]

BTW I dont like how SSK popped in and did nothing on lynch day.

One more, then I can rest in peace.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count
SpyreX(6): Timeater, TonyMontana, SpyreX, CF Riot, Porkens, Seraphim
ortolan(1): Gremwell
Not Voting: MafiaSSK, geraintm, Porkens, Wall-E, ortolan
--SpyreX needs 1 to lynch--
--ortolan needs 6 to lynch--

Serum Count
MafiaSSK(9): Timeater, ortolan, TonyMontana, geraintm, Wall-E, Seraphim, Illumina, SpyreX, Gremwell
Not Seruming: CF Riot, MafiaSSK, Porkens
MafiaSSK has reached majority of Serum votes.

Mycosynth Count
Wall-E(3): Illumina, Gremwell, timeater
Timeater(5): SpyreX, Porkens, CF Riot, Wall-E, TonyMontana, Seraphim.
Not Mycosynthing: MafiaSSK, geraintm, ortolan
--4 to synth Wall-E--
--1 to synth timeater--

To lynch/mycosynth/serum: Seven
Deadline: 11/14

[Timeater]

@SpyreX- Its pointless trying to convince you of anything. You're right, everyone else is wrong, and thats that. I sigh at you sir.

No Seraphim, there isn't.

Right now, there are only vanilla townies, metalloids, and mafia. That is what Nat said. He wouldnt lie to us.

IMO this setup heavily favors the scum if there is more than one metalscum. But who knows what the serum does.

[SpyreX]

I can be persuaded of things. I talk absolutely fine with everyone else in this game.

I can easily be persuaded by simple number and avenues I haven't thought of. However, nothing in our little discussion even amounts to that.

I dont even think you ever gave why you think I'm scummy. Except that I -am- scum and kamakazeing to get you synthed. Or that I am scum metal because I said that you're scum metal. Or etc. Not definable reasons. Not reasons that actually advance the cause of scum winning.

Or the pbpa, or anything else.

Its Synth-1 on you. You gonna let it go until deadline?

[ortolan]

Um...my vote still hasn't been added to SpyreX...I'll do it again if necessary.

I'm a man of my word so I'll still vote to synth Timeater first but I'm not sure if he has a majority (I can't tell because the vote count may well be wrong again)

Unsynth. Synth: Timeater. Unvote. Vote: SpyreX