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Post Post #4725 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:58 am

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Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-27 20:08:28)

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Post Post #4726 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:58 am

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In post 4723, furtiveglance wrote:Oh wow I was right. Scum Vig anyone? Could explain early claim, no death and bad kill?
Kill was necessary I explained why and my TRs agreed
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Post Post #4727 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:59 am

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VOTE: Scarf
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Post Post #4728 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:00 pm

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UNVOTE:

Changed my mind
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Post Post #4729 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:01 pm

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In post 4726, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4723, furtiveglance wrote:Oh wow I was right. Scum Vig anyone? Could explain early claim, no death and bad kill?
Kill was necessary I explained why and my TRs agreed
Is *Ydrasse* a townread of yours? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #4730 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:01 pm

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In post 4729, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 4726, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4723, furtiveglance wrote:Oh wow I was right. Scum Vig anyone? Could explain early claim, no death and bad kill?
Kill was necessary I explained why and my TRs agreed
Is *Ydrasse* a townread of yours? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes
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Post Post #4731 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:05 pm

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Wait if unwnd was VT.... Meuh has explaining to do
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Post Post #4732 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:06 pm

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She’s been barely paying attention to the game. Why would you put stock in someone’s opinion who doesn’t even know what’s going on?
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Post Post #4733 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:07 pm

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Would it have swayed you at all if i had been more vocally pushing PPF, math? I think you were locked into your own bias from some point earlier in the day. This is disappointing.

Maybe I could have argued that while a unwnd cult flip would have been informative, a town flip gets us absolutely nothing, espescially since he claimed VT. And inb4 he never claimed VT: he did if you were paying attention.

@RR, I think there is no such thing as unattuned, unfortunately.
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Post Post #4734 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:08 pm

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In post 4731, Radical Rat wrote:Wait if unwnd was VT.... Meuh has explaining to do
Woah, you’re right. How did they get an “attuned with the sun” result on a vt?
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Post Post #4735 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:10 pm

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In post 4731, Radical Rat wrote:Wait if unwnd was VT.... Meuh has explaining to do
No she doesn’t.

VTs have an alignment according to her claim
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Post Post #4736 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:10 pm

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@ppf: who else do you have in your scumreads besides scarf? Scarf seems town to me
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Post Post #4737 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:11 pm

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In post 4733, Scarfmanship wrote:Would it have swayed you at all if i had been more vocally pushing PPF, math? I think you were locked into your own bias from some point earlier in the day. This is disappointing.

Maybe I could have argued that while a unwnd cult flip would have been informative, a town flip gets us absolutely nothing, espescially since he claimed VT. And inb4 he never claimed VT: he did if you were paying attention.

@RR, I think there is no such thing as unattuned, unfortunately.
Honestly it was between the two of them.

I was considering PPF earlier but then with how unwd opened it kinda became a had to shoot there because *reasons*
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Post Post #4738 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:17 pm

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In post 4298, MegAzumarill wrote:
Dawn 1 Final VC

MMR (8) Radical Rat, Past Present Future, Mathblade, furtiveglance, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Ydrasse , Firebringer, Unwnd, [Hammer]

Past Present Future (4) Scarfmanship, MMR, Toogeloo, Enchant,

Unwnd (2) Mastina, Yume

Not Voting (1) T-bone,

Deadline: 1 day*
With 15 alive it took 8 to eliminate.
Deadline was frozen for replacements.
Why are they town @CSF? They tried to save lying scum with a botched claim and are still trying to get us miselimmed, despite their flip proving they lied.

I would look at the wagons here. I don’t believe our wagon had all town, nor do I think MMR wasn’t bussed.
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Post Post #4739 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:19 pm

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Whatever. Can't carry people who can't carry themselves.

Would the lunars (who likely know PPF is solar) even want to kill PPF tonight? I don't know what scum's optimal kill strategy is in multiball. Is it a prisoner's dilemma where lunars want us to vote out PPF and we want them to kill PPF?
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Post Post #4740 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:21 pm

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In post 4735, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4731, Radical Rat wrote:Wait if unwnd was VT.... Meuh has explaining to do
No she doesn’t.

VTs have an alignment according to her claim
So some vts would be moon attuned then? I still tr this slot because of my Mastina tr but these mech are really weird. Why would vts be sun or moon attuned when they have no powers?
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Post Post #4741 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:23 pm

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In post 4739, Scarfmanship wrote:Whatever. Can't carry people who can't carry themselves.

Would the lunars (who likely know PPF is solar) even want to kill PPF tonight? I don't know what scum's optimal kill strategy is in multiball. Is it a prisoner's dilemma where lunars want us to vote out PPF and we want them to kill PPF?
Again @CSF why is this town? Flip + MMR’s not voting until pretty much they were at risk of being run up debunks this and he’s still trying to drive a miselim on us in spite of it.
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Post Post #4742 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:27 pm

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Wtf was that kill

Have you guys read my own posts about my role? Let me bring it up
In post 4316, Meuh wrote:
In post 4314, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 4311, Meuh wrote:Fun! unwnd is attuned with the sun. Therefore not aligned with the lunar cult.
I vaguely recall people saying unwnd was weird with the wagon on the person who just flipped lunar? I saw that on the last page. I picked unwd cause of that + Mastina having unwnd low on reads.
Can you clarify what sun attuned means again?
All sun and moon cult members are attuned to their respective cult.
All townies have an attunement (sun or moon) determined pregame in some sort of non-random fashion.

Functionally, a sun attunement means someone is confirmed to not be moon cult, and vice-versa.
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Post Post #4743 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:28 pm

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In post 4742, Meuh wrote:Wtf was that kill

Have you guys read my own posts about my role? Let me bring it up
In post 4316, Meuh wrote:
In post 4314, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 4311, Meuh wrote:Fun! unwnd is attuned with the sun. Therefore not aligned with the lunar cult.
I vaguely recall people saying unwnd was weird with the wagon on the person who just flipped lunar? I saw that on the last page. I picked unwd cause of that + Mastina having unwnd low on reads.
Can you clarify what sun attuned means again?
All sun and moon cult members are attuned to their respective cult.
All townies have an attunement (sun or moon) determined pregame in some sort of non-random fashion.

Functionally, a sun attunement means someone is confirmed to not be moon cult, and vice-versa.
I thought you agreed based on our prior conversation, where you and I went back and forth?
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Post Post #4744 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:32 pm

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On killing Unwnd? Absolutely not
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Post Post #4745 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:34 pm

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Unwnd in that back and forth with you was blatant vanilla townie
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Post Post #4746 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:36 pm

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Whoops. I thought you had hence me firing.
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Post Post #4747 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:37 pm

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In post 4349, Scarfmanship wrote:My favorite first kill today is toogaloo. They have done nothing good, and pushed the PPF wagon until the end, when MMR was the far better choice.
Why is Toog scummy for this when you did the same thing?
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Post Post #4748 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:38 pm

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VOTE: PPF
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Post Post #4749 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:39 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 4646, unwnd wrote:
In post 4639, Scarfmanship wrote:Suspect play is not the same as suspect. Suspect play means bad play. Suboptimal play.

Regarding my last post, imagine if toogaloo had been checked solar. His reaction would have been like "WTF? I'm not solar *votes mwah*." With unwnd it's just.. nothing.
Almost like I don't give a shit about my attunement as the only that matters is my green role PM
In post 4649, unwnd wrote:Leading with mechanics is only good if you have a strong foundation

This game is borderline incoherent

I don't expect for people to corroborate and make informed decisions that we can utilize to hold accountability

If that were true, then mastina would've died earlier

Bittersweet
In post 4652, unwnd wrote:K well i dont know my attunement and shooting me is a legitimate waste
In post 4658, unwnd wrote:I mean literally shoot my ass if you're soooo convinced

I have nothing to lose
In post 4659, unwnd wrote:Go on mathblade

Do it
In post 4662, unwnd wrote:There's nobody townreading me you twit

Only person who has suggested that is DDS
In post 4666, unwnd wrote:I'm calling your bkuff

Shoot me so you can be the last chapter of that shitshow that started with you and mastina in the first place

I will be a martyr
In post 4668, unwnd wrote:I get dogged on for trying to change things in a game stick in limbo

I'm sick of you acting like you own the joint
In post 4669, unwnd wrote:Shoot me and let your stubbornness die with me

I want you to recognize how much you've been an obstructive force to this game
In post 4671, unwnd wrote:I'm dogged on for not following orders like a dog

I have no shame other than my misconception of mastinas play
In post 4672, unwnd wrote:What are the reasons for me being scum?

I bet you can't find good ones from any individual
In post 4673, unwnd wrote:Don't let mathblade continue to play deputy

I'd like others to start suggesting shots not just me, cause shouldn't i have partners? Another thing nobody had to say about
In post 4681, unwnd wrote:Like i want town to win even without me

If im shot or limmed or whatever the fuck

Then i want to know where people will go next

This is all explicitly VT
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