Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 3.08

With 8 players, it takes 5 to make a decision. Day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-11-05 15:00:00).

VC

Grib [3]:

Frogsterking, Enchant, Aisa

Eiralox [1]:

Grib

Not voting [4]:

Bellaphant, Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Elements

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Also my power is out so I'll be modding exclusively from my phone please be patient

[Grib]

It’s frustrating to feel like I have the only concrete reason to be voting anyone, whereas the votes on me are

- Frog, because of some psychological bullshit
- Enchant, who is bad
- Aisa, because lol mechanics

[Grib]

I don’t mind dying that much, but if all the reasons for killing me are bad, how do you expect to analyze those votes?

[Enchant]

It’s frustrating to feel like I have the only concrete reason to be voting anyone, whereas the votes on me are

- Frog, because of some psychological bullshit
- Enchant, who is bad
- Aisa, because lol mechanics

I am not bad

[Aisa]

It’s pretty insulting to be voted over the literal do-nothing slot, while saying you don’t even think I’m mafia. I almost want to just log off and check how this game ends two weeks or so from now.

I understand. If it means anything to you - it doesn't have to - I have enjoyed playing with you and I really wish I didn't find myself in this position.

I am making an argument that is partly mechanical. You are free to engage with me, SR me, or vote me off over this.

It could be that I'm doing something wrong: you're right, maybe Bella shooting Eira would be a solution, but I'm going to finish writing this post first, then think about the solution of asking Bella to elim Eira.

[Grib]

Then at least unvote me to prevent a hammer from the other players.

[Grib]

If I die then we’re going to drag this bitch out until time is up.

[Enchant]

You are so egoistic, you ready to ruin town, just so you don't personally die?

Very town mindset.

[Grib]

What are you talking about.

[Enchant]

I already said how harmful no-lim for town, and you forcing it, just to survive.

That's so petty.

[Aisa]

So you followed my suggestion to threaten to vote out Eiralox unless he claims. He squirmed and made excuses and left, which is pretty fucking fishy, and…you did the exact thing you said was a bad idea, which is pretend to threaten to kill him. How do you justify that?

Re: pretend to threaten to kill him:
This is one of the things that got lost in the fray and maybe I didn't communicate well, but at the time I voted Eira, I did so completely willing to eliminate them. And then I got spooked and unvoted.

I don't think I threatened to kill Eira after they left?

I am not in a position where I am thinking especially logically. You are within your rights to think this is an excuse or to find this frustrating.

UNVOTE:

Also, unfortunate fact, I have a commitment this evening and need to leave soon. I will make sure not to leave until I've cast a vote. I will also check in before the end of the day to provide a hammer if this is necessary.

[Grib]

How am I forcing a no lim? I asked Aisa to unvote so I could continue to engage without dying.

[Grib]

Am I crazy or is Enchant literally just making shit up.

[Grib]

And then I got spooked and unvoted.

Why?

[Aisa]

I think he's presenting an *interpretation* that isn't necessarily true
and specifically, the bit about you being anti-town because you don't want to die misses that you asked me to unvote so you can continue to engage,
but I think this is understandable with the current chaos

[Grib]

Tell me why you aren't willing to risk Eiralox's life when he is being antitown, avoiding committing to a claim, making up excuses, lashing out, and not giving reasons for scumreads despite being all too happy to vote me for FoS'ing him. Tell me why.

[Grib]

I think he's presenting an *interpretation* that isn't necessarily true

Yeah, the word for that is lying. There is nowhere to interpret that I'm *forcing* a no-elim. I don't even know how that would be possible, given my vote isn't very influential here, and I can't make people do anything they don't want to.

[Aisa]

And then I got spooked and unvoted.

Why?

Ugh, something about Bella seeming like she kinda wanted Eira to live, but I guess she did say herself she isn't sure what alignment they are.

VOTE: Not Mafia
Maybe Bella can shoot Eira or something.

I need to go. If I am alive tomorrow I will engage Grib, Eira, or whoever is alive that needs to be engaged with. I will make sure to write a proper case. As an exchange for this, I will be much less receptive to people trying to change my mind last-minute if we are in that situation, and reserve the right to not engage at deadline.

[Bellaphant]

LET COMPLEX VIG DEAL WITH IT.

THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA

Roleblocker?

If NM doesn't die to vig shot they're either not a mason or mafia wanted to stop the kill. Either way we lim them.

I read as far as this and think this is a good idea?

[Grib]

ughhhhhh people dancing around Eira is driving me up the wall

[Bellaphant]

N1. I am hoping they have a town reason for not claiming. I'd much rather shoot nm than eira? Or should I shoot a VT claim either way?

I'm sorry I'm shit.

[Elements]

Eira/Aisa anyone?

[Elements]

VOTE: Not Mafia
Maybe Bella can shoot Eira or something.

I need to go.

Vote NM shoot Eira?

[Grib]

Tell me why you aren't willing to risk Eiralox's life when he is being antitown, avoiding committing to a claim, making up excuses, lashing out, and not giving reasons for scumreads despite being all too happy to vote me for FoS'ing him. Tell me why.

I don't care what happens, Aisa needs to answer this next phase. Don't let her skip out on it.