Mafia 83 - Game Ended Scum Win!

bionicchop2 · Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:24 am

asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:30 am

hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:lol, I just noticed we have the same mod in this game as that game. Case closed.
were there also lovers in that game?

No. there also was no sk. What is your point? Role speculation is OK to an extent, but votingjust because you don't expect a role is poor IMO. Votes still need to be justified.

hasdgfas · Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:31 pm

bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.

How do you know it's lylo?

bionicchop2 · Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:51 pm

hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.
How do you know it's lylo?

Chaz and I both discuss this recently. Please keep up.

hasdgfas · Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:56 pm

bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.
How do you know it's lylo?
Chaz and I both discuss this recently. Please keep up.

humor me.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:11 pm

hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.
How do you know it's lylo?
Chaz and I both discuss this recently. Please keep up.
humor me.

I am not going to facilitate your inability to read the posts previously made.

chazworthington · Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:00 pm

bionicchop2 wrote:lol, I just noticed we have the same mod in this game as that game. Case closed.

This is a great find. We're mostly back to where we began: either qwintz is lying and he and Reclusion are scum, or qwintz is most likely cleared. We still need to hear from Reclusion, however. And Reclusion is not cleared. Not sure if this is enough of a reason to request a temporary replacement.

Reading the exchange between xtomx and BC, I'm liking my vote on Xtomx at the moment.

Mod please prod k7. As I've asked this before, please consider replacing him

I don't think he's scum but I am concerned about him being the SK.

chazworthington · Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:02 pm

hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:lol, I just noticed we have the same mod in this game as that game. Case closed.
were there also lovers in that game?

@cow: Why are you focused on this game's setup rather than scumhunt? Who do you think is scum?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:05 pm

Will prod K7. Will replace if he doesn't post in 2 days.

killa seven · Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:58 pm

sup? anyone have questions for me? ima slightly read up what i missed.

qwints · Post Post #635 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:36 am

killa, who do you think we should lynch?

hasdgfas · Post Post #636 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 am

bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.
How do you know it's lylo?
Chaz and I both discuss this recently. Please keep up.
humor me.
I am not going to facilitate your inability to read the posts previously made.

I read it. I want you to say it again.

hasdgfas · Post Post #637 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:37 am

chazworthington wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:lol, I just noticed we have the same mod in this game as that game. Case closed.
were there also lovers in that game?
@cow: Why are you focused on this game's setup rather than scumhunt? Who do you think is scum?

this is still scumhunting. It might not be orthodox scumhunting, but trust me, I'm definitely formulating thoughts here.
Here's a question for everyone:
What do you think of qwintz's claim? Why do you think he decided to claim right when day started with no pressure on him at all?

chazworthington · Post Post #638 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:19 pm

killa seven wrote:sup? anyone have questions for me? ima slightly read up what i missed.

1. Who has jumped out at you as scum after your read? As SK?

2. What do you think of qwintz claim?

3. Do you think there are any scum pairs we can eliminate?

4. Why do we need to ask questions for you to provide insight?

chazworthington · Post Post #639 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:20 pm

hasdgfas wrote: What do you think of qwintz's claim? Why do you think he decided to claim right when day started with no pressure on him at all?

I want to hear from Reclusion or her replacement before answering that.

chazworthington · Post Post #640 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:21 pm

hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:
bionicchop2 wrote:asking for justification on all votes at lylo =/= defending someone.
How do you know it's lylo?
Chaz and I both discuss this recently. Please keep up.
humor me.
I am not going to facilitate your inability to read the posts previously made.
I read it. I want you to say it again.

It sounds like you have a point to make here, I'd really prefer if you just said what you think the flaw/error in logic is.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #641 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:19 am

hasdgfas wrote: Here's a question for everyone:
What do you think of qwintz's claim? Why do you think he decided to claim right when day started with no pressure on him at all?

bionicchop2 wrote: I have a simple reason to believe the mason claims right now and that does a great job of narrowing my suspects...

The way I see it, if the 'masons' are running a gambit and risking the mason claims, they run the risk of the sk killing one at night and exposing the lie. It would be much, much easier and less risky for mafia to not make that claim.

In addition, qwints is a new player who I have played with before in his first game on the site. He is smart, but I don't think has the experience to start fake claiming - especially with a partner who has apparently been gone since before the previous day ended. This decreases the chances they discussed a bold strategy over night as scum.

As for the timing of the claim - why not? He stated his reason - to narrow the focus of suspects. You can agree with the thought process or disagree. I think that is valid. Why wait until one has pressure on them (which would end up wasting a chunk of the day)? Also, if one of them were to die at night before a claim was made, then the other would have nobody to back the story up and anybody could fake claim as the mason partner.

If I was a mason partner and the idea was presented at me during the night to claim at the start of this day phase, I would have agreed to it without hesitation. That doesn't necessarily make it the correct play, but it makes it a play I feel is solid as town.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #642 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:20 am

Question: Would you prefer a Reclusion replacemnt at the moment or a modkill?

chazworthington · Post Post #643 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:33 am

MafiaSSK wrote:
Question: Would you prefer a Reclusion replacemnt at the moment or a modkill?

I'd prefer a replaement, unless he's done something that would require a modkill.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #644 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:35 am

MafiaSSK wrote:
Question: Would you prefer a Reclusion replacemnt at the moment or a modkill?

I would prefer a replacement. A modkill seems like we may as well abandon if that was the only option.

qwints · Post Post #645 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:10 am

I'm also against a modkill.

hasdgfas · Post Post #646 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:18 am

MafiaSSK wrote:
Question: Would you prefer a Reclusion replacemnt at the moment or a modkill?

replacement. Modkill will change the entire game.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #647 (ISO) » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:48 am

Then I'll find a replacement.Continue on with the game.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:21 am

I assume we are all waiting for a replacement?

Xtoxm · Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:41 am

I'd be ok with a lynch. Being that Reclusion is mason it removes the possibility that she is SK (or atleast, I think it's safe to assume that), and I can see the mod having the unconfirmed mason as scum for the second time he does it.

I've had a bad feeling about Hasd all game, but he's looking better lately.