Read Your Role Mafia - Game Over

Empking · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:53 am

578, the misrepn is scummy but not very scummy. I also think that he has a good reason to disbelieve the claim.

Electra · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:33 am

Empking wrote:I also think that he has a good reason to disbelieve the claim.

Why?

What reason is there to disbelieve the claim?

Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.

SensFan · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:36 am

Electra wrote:Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.

Just pointing out that means shit all.

Electra · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:58 am

SensFan wrote:
Electra wrote:Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.
Just pointing out that means shit all.

Why?

You continue to make short posts that address nothing and have no backing and are just plain rude.

You say you're busy but apparently this doesn't keep you from being on Mafiascum, it just keeps you from posting any content.

unvote

,

vote:SensFan

Welcome to L-1.

SensFan · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:01 am

Electra wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Electra wrote:Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.
Just pointing out that means shit all.
Why?

The assumption that each game has a Cop is a ridiculously flawed one, and one I'm sure you know.

Electra wrote:You continue to make short posts that address nothing and have no backing and are just plain rude.

Like I said, I've been very busy. And I haven't said anything rude.

Electra wrote:You say you're busy but apparently this doesn't keep you from being on Mafiascum, it just keeps you from posting any content.

That's just plain wrong. My access has been low lately, and I haven't made big posts in ANY games I'm in.

Electra wrote:
unvote
,
vote:SensFan

Welcome to L-1.

Whatever. Certainly not claiming until I've made a defence.

Caboose · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:39 pm

SensFan wrote:
Electra wrote:
SensFan wrote:
Electra wrote:Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.
Just pointing out that means shit all.
Why?
The assumption that each game has a Cop is a ridiculously flawed one, and one I'm sure you know.

This

Sens wrote:
Electra wrote:
unvote
,
vote:SensFan

Welcome to L-1.
Whatever. Certainly not claiming until I've made a defence.

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I would like a claim before deadline, please.

Also, happy scumday. [/nosarcasm]

Empking · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:34 am

Electra wrote:
Empking wrote:I also think that he has a good reason to disbelieve the claim.
Why?

What reason is there to disbelieve the claim?

Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.

The fact that you added to your exact role claim when people mentioned mistakes.

Electra · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:26 am

Empking wrote:
Electra wrote:
Empking wrote:I also think that he has a good reason to disbelieve the claim.
Why?

What reason is there to disbelieve the claim?

Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.
The fact that you added to your exact role claim when people mentioned mistakes.

I added something that I thought was obvious already. As I've said, what reason would you have to believe that my role could target itself when the vast majority of roles cannot do so?

Caboose · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:04 pm

Empking wrote:
Electra wrote:
Empking wrote:I also think that he has a good reason to disbelieve the claim.
Why?

What reason is there to disbelieve the claim?

Just pointing out that I essentially claimed cop for this game and I haven't been counterclaimed.
The fact that you added to your exact role claim when people mentioned mistakes.

Seriously? Is that all you've got?
First of all, it's "person", not "people." FL asked Electra why she [Electra] couldn't target herself, which I think is pretty self explanatory anyway. You and Sens are taking this addition of the fact that Electra couldn't target herself WAYYYYYY out of proportion. Why would that just blow the whole roleclaim for you, Emp? Is that really sufficient enough of a reason to discredit the ENTIRE claim? The important component of Electra's role is that she can target two people to determine if they are the same alignment or not and that's what she told us, which I find to be pretty believeable given the context of the game. But it seems like you and Sens are reaching for a reason to try to trash the entire claim.

Vote stands, but

Major FoS: Empking

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Seraphim · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:14 pm

It's simple; if SensFan flips town, then Electra is scum.

If SensFan is scum, then Electra is mostly likely town.

Vote stands. SensFan, now is a good time to claim.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 pm

It's simple; if SensFan flips town, then Electra is scum.

If SensFan is scum, then Electra is mostly likely town.

Vote stands. SensFan, now is a good time to claim.

You are the only one who knows if this is true or not. I'm not one to be all like "Yesh, I buy this completely". I'll re examine everyone outside the context of their claims based on Sens' flip.

Seraphim · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:24 pm

I just realized something; if Electra is telling the truth and lynch flips scum, either Electra(because she's now a claimed cop), or myself(because I'm pretty much confirmed town then) will die tonight. Not a pleasant prospect...

Seraphim · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:25 pm

EBWOP: Didn't see FL's post.

That's very true and I agree completely. But, from my prospective, I think we've just hit scum.

SensFan · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:33 pm

Seraphim wrote:It's simple; if SensFan flips town, then Electra is scum.

If SensFan is scum, then Electra is mostly likely town.

Vote stands. SensFan, now is a good time to claim.

By that logic, you should be offering to self-lynch, since the above applies to me as well.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:34 pm

Why would Seraphim want to lynch a confirmed townie (to himself). Seriously, talk about read your role

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SensFan · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:39 pm

forbiddanlight wrote:Why would Seraphim want to lynch a confirmed townie (to himself). Seriously, talk about read your role .

He is claiming that I should be lynched because it will tell HIM who the Scum is. By the logic, he should be lynched because it will tell me who the Scum is.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:45 pm

He is claiming that I should be lynched because it will tell HIM who the Scum is. By the logic, he should be lynched because it will tell me who the Scum is.

One problem. You both know your roles. Meaning his logic doesn't apply the way you are stating it.

SensFan · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Clearly it does. If I should be lynched, to the point of him demanding a claim, because it would tell HIM the Electra is Scum, why shouldn't he be lynched so it tells ME Electra is Scum.

*Assuming we are both Town.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:49 pm

He knows his alignment. He doesn't know yours. Your lynch will reveal to him who is scum. Therefore, his lynch won't (to him). However, from your perspective, it's reversed.

SensFan · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:51 pm

forbiddanlight wrote:He knows his alignment. He doesn't know yours. Your lynch will reveal to him who is scum. Therefore, his lynch won't (to him). However, from your perspective, it's reversed.

Why should his perspective be worth a damn, though? I just don't see how he can possibly justify demanding a claim for me on the basis that lynching me will tell him (and only him) that Electra is Scum.

*Again, assuming both of us are Town.

Seraphim · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:53 pm

Because it is very likely that you are scum?

forbiddanlight · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:54 pm

Why should his perspective be worth a damn, though? I just don't see how he can possibly justify demanding a claim for me on the basis that lynching me will tell him (and only him) that Electra is Scum.

Preferably, you should be claiming because you are at L-1. Not because Seraphim wants to know who is scum.

SensFan · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:55 pm

Seraphim wrote:Because it is very likely that you are scum?

You see me as having 1/2 chance of being Scum, statistically. How is that "very likely"?

forbiddan, I'm not claiming until tomorrow, at least, after I've defended myself.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:20 pm

You see me as having 1/2 chance of being Scum, statistically. How is that "very likely"?

forbiddan, I'm not claiming until tomorrow, at least, after I've defended myself.

Fair nuff. But make sure to claim before deadline.

Caboose · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:38 pm

I would like Tamuz to come and join us now. We're to the point in the game where we can't have ANYONE not posting. I appreciate you replacing in for us, Tamuz, and I would like to see what you have to say. Wolf, I would like to request the same from you.

Sens wrote:Why should his perspective be worth a damn, though? I just don't see how he can possibly justify demanding a claim for me on the basis that lynching me will tell him (and only him) that Electra is Scum.

I personally believe Electra's claim, which means that you and/or Seraphim are anti-town. I voted for you because I thought you to be the most scummy.