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MacavityLock (2)

- Tarhalindur, Flask of Pestilence

Grimmy (2)

- Rishi, iamausername

No Lynch (2)

- forbiddanlight, camn
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Farkshinsoup (2)

- Knight of Cydonia, MacavityLock

Not voting (4) - Elmo, Farkshinsoup, andersonw, Grimmy

Seven

votes to lynch.

The

deadline

is about 2 days away.

[MacavityLock]

I would strongly suggest that Macavity and/or Grimmy think about claiming. I do think one of them is the lynch, right now. I'll probably flip a coin tomorrow as to my vote.

Up until now, you've been on the fence about me. What's changed?

[iamausername]

KoC, would I be right to assume that you use your power during the night?

I'm a bit confused by the quick wagon that's formed on Farkshinsoup. I mean yes, he's claimed to be a number 2, which is what I am as Leoben Conoy, but I don't understand the portion mentioned by iamausername as I thought his vote during the random vote "stage" was just random chatter. Why does his mentioning something about a centurion lead you to believe this is some kind of inconsistency?

The point is that he voted me for having a Cylon as an avatar, indicating that he is assuming the scum in the game are Cylons, which doesn't seem to make sense for someone who knows that at least one Cylon (himself) is town. I mean, if he'd been Sharon Agathon or Caprica Six, it might make sense, since they've got pretty well established human connections and would make sense as anomalies, but a random #2 wouldn't be town unless a lot of other Cylons were.

I'm totally buying his explanation that he didn't know for sure if he was town, though, so I don't think it's at all voteworthy when I've read him as pretty pro-town elsewhere. I do think it was worth bringing to attention though, because I think some scum almost certainly got lured into the sudden wagon on him that came out of it.

Unvote, Vote: MacavityLock

.

because everyone else who hopped on that wagon is protected from lynch today due to their claims, I believe. Not particularly thrilled with this vote, but it's better than a No Lynch.

[MacavityLock]

This is such a crap wagon. FoP and Tar may be the only ones who really believe in it, everyone else has said "oh I'll look into it," and I end up the default lynch? Everyone who's mentioned "that case against ML" without backing it up is suspect. That includes username, Elmo, Fark, Rishi.

But we're under two days to go, so I guess I need to claim. As I said, I am Natalie, a Number 6 model and leader of the group looking to find the Final Five cylons so as to unite with the humans. I win when my group is safe from all dangers.

I am also very good at taking hostages. I have much experience from when the humans tried to betray my faction last time. Thus I am a Jailkeeper. I can choose one person to roleblock and protect overnight. I must make this choice during the day, however. By the way, this is why I had assumed that Tar's choice wasn't locked in. I don't have the "have to vote for them" restriction, but I checked with mod, and he's let me change my planned target. (I.e. I chose once early in the day, and have changed targets since. Only my most recent target will apply tonight if I'm around.)

There's also some flavor about Number 3 that I'd like to hold back until at least tomorrow, if you guys keep me alive. If not, I'll make sure to say something before I go.

There are better lynches than me today.

[Knight of Cydonia]

iamausername - I'm not going to answer that, and stop fishing for info on my role.
Fark is still a better lynch than Macavity.

[Rishi]

I would strongly suggest that Macavity and/or Grimmy think about claiming. I do think one of them is the lynch, right now. I'll probably flip a coin tomorrow as to my vote.

Didn't Grimmy already claim? Or do you mean full claim?

[Grimmy]

I pretty much gave you guys all the info on my role.

Also, I dont think we should lynch what could be a jailkeeper on day one. If wehave a better lynch suspect, I say we go for it and find a way to test Mac's claim.

grimmy

[Elmo]

Given what you currently know, do you think Tarhalindur is scum? Please answer yes or no, and give reasoning.

Considering that my role PM says I am town... um, no. Next question?

I would now like to point this out.

Macavity: Nothing's changed; I'm still on the fence about you. If I wasn't, I'd have voted you yesterday. I don't hugely disagree with Flask's case, but I don't interpret it as strong enough to want to lynch you for it, personally. The only reason I'd consider lynching you today is pretty much process of elimination; like I said, we've ruled out maybe half the game as lynch candidates today, and I don't want to lynch most of the rest.

Who do you think is a better lynch than you, and why?

I am going to take a punt and

vote

:

Grimmy

. I just feel Macavity'll be talking more tomorrow, and it's far easier to get a read on him than Grimmy. That, and the fact he's claimed power, and the fact that his claim looks much better than a fakeclaim from someone who's only finished one game.

Rishi is slightly weird. Iam is pretty weird. Tar and KoC are ultra weird. Meh, day 2.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Elmo - much as I hate to bring meta into it - my meta is ultra-weird. Ultra-weird =/= scummy, though. Do try and remember that.

[Elmo]

Oh, sure. And I dig that =)

The only reason I say that is because around half the time, I'll look back on a completed game and notice some really (with hindsight) obvious tell, and remember that I thought "hmm, that's weird" but never bothered to follow up on it. In particular, I don't have any real reason to believe Iam is town, but he's not getting any real scrutiny, certainly not to the degree that e.g. Fark is. If he's town, that's fine; if he's scum, it could be devastating in the long run. This kind of "I don't think he's scummy so I wouldn't bother looking at him closely" behaviour amplifies small errors into catastrophic ones.

[forbiddanlight]

/me sighs.

I'm gonna catch hell if I'm wrong, but between the choices, I actually lean towards an

Unvote, Vote farkshinsoup

. Not that I find any of the candidates particularly good, but it's been hard to read people this game for some reason :S.

[camn]

Jesus. This game gets weirder and weirder.
Destructor better give us a full reveal in the end.

I'm OK with a Grimmy Lynch, if we have to lynch someone.

why?

I will unvote once the claim has been posted.

this is weak, generally.
Also.. at least he isn't claiming a power role.
ALSO.. he IS a hard read.

But, if he has any more claiming to do... now is the time.
I will keep my vote on no-lynch for now, just in case anyone wants to put things off a day

[Knight of Cydonia]

If it makes anyone feel any better about switching to Fark from Mac - I'm scanning him. You can have your answers tomorrow.

[Elmo]

FL, why are you voting Fark?

I reiterate, this wagon sucks.

[iamausername]

iamausername - I'm not going to answer that, and stop fishing for info on my role.

Rolefishing is only bad BEFORE you claim. Try again.

Given what you currently know, do you think Tarhalindur is scum? Please answer yes or no, and give reasoning.

Considering that my role PM says I am town... um, no. Next question?

I would now like to point this out.

This is a good point.

If it makes anyone feel any better about switching to Fark from Mac - I'm scanning him. You can have your answers tomorrow.

Which one are you scanning, Fark or Mac?

Looks like Grimmy is next on the list to fullclaim and thus dissolve his wagon (I'm assuming this is going to happen because I'm pretty sure I know what he's going to claim already). Really, when we're getting to the point where more than half the players have fullclaimed I'm starting to think we might as well just go ahead and have the rest do it as well.

Unvote, Vote: andersonw

. Got any better ideas?

[Elmo]

I disapprove of an anderson lynch.

But I freely admit I am running out of ideas. I do believe there are certain circumstances in which it's reasonable to no lynch, I just have difficulty evaluating this because the consequences will only appear several days later.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm scanning Mac.
No lynch is a very bad idea.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Everybody, stop right now.
MacavityLock is a Number 4 - I just used my Iris Scan.

unvote; Vote: MacavityLock

For those not in the know - that means he's part of Cavil's faction.
DIE SCUM DIE

[iamausername]

Well, that makes things easier.

Unvote, Vote: MacavityLock

[MacavityLock]

I was all getting ready to respond to Elmo's question about who other good lynch candidates would be. Well, KoC is lying.

Unvote. Vote: KoC.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Please, for the love of God, people, lynch Macavity before deadline.

[Knight of Cydonia]

If I'm lying, lynch me tomorrow, by all means. But I'm not. Macavity is a Number 4. Aligned to Cavil's faction.

[Elmo]

Okay, fine - no more Cylon claims, I'll just

go out tonight

and find out myself. Shame it's one shot.

If it makes anyone feel any better about switching to Fark from Mac - I'm scanning him. You can have your answers

tomorrow

.

..?

The deadline hits in twenty eight hours and seven minutes. At deadline, most votes is lynched. So no vote yet, I think.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I hadd to confirm with the modd - I initially thought my power was night-scan, but it turns out to be day-scan.
As I say, if Macavity turns up town, feel free to lynch me tomorrow. But I'm not lying, he IS a number 4, and he is scum.

[Elmo]

I don't understand why that mix-up would happen.

I could imagine you rereading, seeing Tar's claim and adjusting it to fit, though.