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[Bellaphant]

Also I was in that lost game, I'd rather not elim bbt day one

[Thestatusquo]

VOTE: Solway

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yeah gonna be real here, the game's activity is largely dominated by like 3 or 4 people and the vote is scattered. Still personally feeling Frogster right now but like. BBT

is

up there too. In the interest of running things along, this one shall UNVOTE: FrogsterKing and VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee, and then probably get on Frog's case again unless he stops acting weird.

Shea and BBT's arguments are alot to unravel in terms of where logic begins and personality ends, but the core of the matter is that BBT is just, yeah kinda scummy. So here's to less flopping around like fish and more pushing votes and wagons.

Like here: I agree with the first sentence, but there isn't really a depth of thought behind it: I'd be shocked if all if grib/fire/tsq/frog are town, the thread is nearly unreadable. The voting nice feels really self conscious and steps away from the reads in the same sentence, then commits, then goes back to ,'doing it fit the wagon/game'. It isn't the first post that's feltike this from the slot

It's a bit hard to understand some of this post but, basically: Only a handful of the players are particularly active, and they all did not particularly agree with eachother on a wagon at the time (this has sorta changed since). So this one, in the interest of actually getting something pushed today, something it agrees with already, votes BBT. Frogster is still high in it's scumleans, and it intends to push that letter tomorrow as it wants to stick with the BBT wagon, to both actually get a wagon going and because it does sus BBT. That's it's logic there.

VOTE: Solway

...Interesting.

[Enchant]

I am in good mood, so i will answer on one question, before i go to sleep

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.11

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-18 11:30:00).

VC

BlueBloodedToffee [4]:

Elements [382], HighPrincessErinys [711], Eiralox [713], Grib [717]

Aisa [2]:

Firebringer [80], Enchant [721]

Solway Firth [2]:

Frogsterking [595], Thestatusquo [726]

Elements [1]:

Not_Mafia [342]

Thestatusquo [1]:

BlueBloodedToffee [377]

HighPrincessErinys [1]:

Bellaphant [716]

Not voting [2]:

Solway Firth [585], Aisa [720]

Mod Notes

- Grib is v/la for the weekend

Flavor

Spoiler: Archer

[Solway Firth]

I am fully caught up. My most confident scumread right now is BBT.

Then why aren't you voting there? Why are you ignoring my questions?

I’m pretty sure I responded to your questions, unless I’m missing something. I’m not voting BBT because I don’t scumread BBT enough to vote him.

You said they're you're highest scum read????

Yes. And I’m not voting him. What is wrong with that?

[Aisa]

I am in good mood, so i will answer on one question, before i go to sleep

:heart-eyes:

Life as Enchant sure sounds nice. Can we switch accounts for 24 hours?

State one scumread with at least one sentence of justification?

[Solway Firth]

I don’t understand BBT strong townread on Bella. Bella’s ISO is some posts complaining about the game state and a bit fairly good content. I don’t see anything that jumps out as a shining beacon of towniness, Bella’s tone seems neither towny nor scummy and her analysis isn’t very deep.

My town read on Bella comes from playing with Bella an awful lot. She was to the point with early reads and I think this is much more likely to come from town!Bella.

Understood. I’ll sheep this read with low certainty.

[Solway Firth]

Like, in what world do town go 'Hey, they guy is using really bad reasoning to scum read me so he must be town'

I really don’t think you’re engaging with TSQ’s actual reasons for voting you? TSQ just isn’t voting you because of your overdefensive post, he’s voting you because of your bad reaction to his pointing out that overdefensive is a bad scumreading tool.
VOTE: BBT
I’m not fully caught up but I’m willing to vote here for now.

[Solway Firth]

That's a big part of why I think I'm on the right track here is that there's a bunch of people who have been perfectly willing to say BBT is scummy or that they have a reasonable chance to be scum but none of them want to put their money where their mouths are.

There's two possibilities here:

The first is BBT is town and those people are scum trying to stay clear of the miselim because they know there's way more plausible deniability in the scramble to lim a random consensus at the very end of the day, OR BBT is scum and those people are scum who don't think there's enough pressure that they have to actually bus yet.

But solways response in particular to BBT as a vote candidate is not good no matter how BBT flips, and I kind of don't like your reaction either if you're saying theres a good chance they're scum.

Like, what better than "a good chance" do you expect to get d1?

I usually only vote someone if I truly scumread them. Previously, my scumread on BBT was a strong lean scum, but not enough. Given BBT’s recent posting and the approaching deadline I want to vote BBT now.

[Aisa]

...Why would you sheep BBT's read on Bella if they're your top scumread?
VOTE: Solway Firth

[Grib]

Is Solway trolling? The posts on this page look awfully troll-y.

What I really want to know is why BBT’s read on Bella meta-based.

[Bellaphant]

...Why would you sheep BBT's read on Bella if they're your top scumread?
VOTE: Solway Firth

I was about to ask just this!

[Enchant]

I am in good mood, so i will answer on one question, before i go to sleep

:heart-eyes:

Life as Enchant sure sounds nice. Can we switch accounts for 24 hours?

State one scumread with at least one sentence of justification?

Yes, why not.

I don't think anyone have "practical reason" to scumread someone, as it's day 1. Go prove to me how you have "analysed scum percentages", but i for example don't know how to play d1.

I push you only because i can and want to see how it ends up. And partly because you stole my hammer. And because of unvoting. Don't do it again, or i will not forgive you next time (unless i forget)

[Solway Firth]

...Why would you sheep BBT's read on Bella if they're your top scumread?
VOTE: Solway Firth

Why is that even remotely scummy

BBT says he has a meta read on Bella

Idc if BBT is my top scumread, if he presents a good case as to why someone is town or scum and I agree with it I’ll sheep it

It’s not like if scum is townreading someone that means their townread is automatically scum

[Solway Firth]

Is Solway trolling? The posts on this page look awfully troll-y.

What I really want to know is why BBT’s read on Bella meta-based.

I’m not trolling

[Aisa]

...Why would you sheep BBT's read on Bella if they're your top scumread?
VOTE: Solway Firth

Why is that even remotely scummy

BBT says he has a meta read on Bella

Idc if BBT is my top scumread, if he presents a good case as to why someone is town or scum and I agree with it I’ll sheep it

It’s not like if scum is townreading someone that means their townread is automatically scum

Yes, but I'm not sure why you would think that's a good case?

It may be good from BBT's perspective, but I don't understand how you could form a judgment on the words "Bella was to the point with early reads and that is more likely coming from town!Bella" without being familiar with Bella.

I am in good mood, so i will answer on one question, before i go to sleep

:heart-eyes:

Life as Enchant sure sounds nice. Can we switch accounts for 24 hours?

State one scumread with at least one sentence of justification?

Yes, why not.

I don't think anyone have "practical reason" to scumread someone, as it's day 1. Go prove to me how you have "analysed scum percentages", but i for example don't know how to play d1.

I push you only because i can and want to see how it ends up. And partly because you stole my hammer. And because of unvoting. Don't do it again, or i will not forgive you next time (unless i forget)

Fab.

This feels a bit deflective, it's not an actual answer to my question. I'm not asking for you to have solved the game on Day 1, I just wanna see where your head's at.

I know I stole your hammer and broke your heart, darling, but unfortunately I'm not playing this game to make you happy. Well, I partly am, but I also have other objectives

[Aisa]

I don't really know what to say anymore. I've done the staring at BBT's words and still have no idea what I'm looking at. Maybe solway is trolling, maybe not. It seems like a fine wagon to stay on for a night X_X

I'm going to degrade HPE and Grib to only slight townleans as I've been calling a lot of people town and think I could use a few more options in my PoE to play with.

i mean i like enchant, from the little we've interacted so : P I want an answer for why Enchant is on Asia, but i'm ok if folk aren't as active day ones..... the one doesn't cancel the other, and me liking enchant doesn't mean i'm not holding open the possibility that they're scum.... they're pretty much null to me, but i want them to peek in and change my mind >.>

I ask simply because my understanding of enchant's meta is that when they're not doing anything they're way more likely to be scum.

So it seemed a curious person to say that about in particular.

Not sure this is super important or anything but if you're town something to be aware of.

I do want to point out that I agree with this meta of Enchant and I think they haven't been doing that much. I get the feeling they're trying to give off "haha I'm so fluffy and goofy" vibes, but if you ISO them there really isn't much to indicate they are engaged with the game at all. Wouldn't mind an Enchant wagon. If someone wants one let me know and I will happily join.

[Bellaphant]

Enchant is another one that I don't really like being a day one wagon .he gets pushed as mis lim bait but also, the things I town read enchant for tend to come later, like mech stuff, but then I've played a lot with them in the open queue. This doesn't feel like town enchant or town nm, honestly.

Eiralox could be scum. #hottake

I don't see as sure about aisa being town as I did,.but this isn't like the scum game they shared.

[Enchant]

"haha I'm so fluffy and goofy"

still better than being anime avatar

[Enchant]

i have insomnia again so anyway.

I can't answer question, because i don't have scumreads with "justified" reasons

[Elements]

VOTE: Aisa

[Firebringer]

I'd be shocked if all if grib/fire/tsq/frog are town, the thread is nearly unreadable

In what way is the game unreadable

[Firebringer]

Enchant is another one that I don't really like being a day one wagon .he gets pushed as mis lim bait but also, the things I town read enchant for tend to come later, like mech stuff, but then I've played a lot with them in the open queue. This doesn't feel like town enchant or town nm, honestly.

Eiralox could be scum. #hottake

I don't see as sure about aisa being town as I did,.but this isn't like the scum game they shared.

you are fence sitting alot bella. not that is unusual but it really doesn't make it easy to sort you

[Firebringer]

...Why would you sheep BBT's read on Bella if they're your top scumread?
VOTE: Solway Firth

is this where i call you out for opportunism or point out that ur not moving forward with that consensus wagon u just talked about a hot minute ago.

Also idk what solway is doing or w/e. But im not interested in jumping in on Solway today.