Open 866: CK9++ [game over!]

[Frogsterking]

I agree Frog, I don't think Pooky is clear by any means, but they are snuggly so that makes it okay

What's your PoE look like, Dease?

It's not at the stage of the game where I have a PoE

That's a *little* sus

I think we have different ways of playing, and that's okay.

I like that Dease didn't fake any reads here, I read that as +Town.

[Frogsterking]

Yes I hate d1

Do you have any thoughts on Gamma yet?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Malakittens

BlueBloodedToffee

Roden

Gamma Emerald

Frogsterking

PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez

Bellaphant

DeasVail

Enchant

Game seems pretty easy.

[Roden]

MariaR kas been killed night 1. she was a

town vengeful

.

Cat Scratch Fever has been killed night 1. she was a

vanilla townie

.

the sun rises. it is now day 2.

I don't think either of these are Vig shots btw. I'm not softing anything, I just don't see a Vig shooting anyone on the wagon, especially since neither were particularly scummy.

I kinda want to town lock Pooky just because I don't think he bussed Lam and I doubt the player he replaced saw a SK role PM and said "no thanks". Like it's not impossible, but it's so rare to get and I don't see why anyone would join a potential SK game and not actually want to play as one.

[Roden]

I'm kind of feeling a Pooky + BBT solve at the moment. I was planning to push Dease later but he seems alright actually LOL.

What's your case on BBT?

[Frogsterking]

MariaR kas been killed night 1. she was a

town vengeful

.

Cat Scratch Fever has been killed night 1. she was a

vanilla townie

.

the sun rises. it is now day 2.

I don't think either of these are Vig shots btw. I'm not softing anything, I just don't see a Vig shooting anyone on the wagon, especially since neither were particularly scummy.

I kinda want to town lock Pooky just because I don't think he bussed Lam and I doubt the player he replaced saw a SK role PM and said "no thanks". Like it's not impossible, but it's so rare to get and I don't see why anyone would join a potential SK game and not actually want to play as one.

I get the angleshoot with the SK but I don't get the points about the Vig or why Pooky couldn't have bussed?

[Frogsterking]

I'm kind of feeling a Pooky + BBT solve at the moment. I was planning to push Dease later but he seems alright actually LOL.

What's your case on BBT?

He seemed a little off but I like that he's down to go for Pooky.

[Frogsterking]

I'm just kind of tossing shit out right now if Pooky is scum I don't know who his partner is. I think he easily could have bussed D1 though and I need to see him elaborate why the associatives are shit on roden+ cakez and lammolde.

[Roden]

MariaR kas been killed night 1. she was a

town vengeful

.

Cat Scratch Fever has been killed night 1. she was a

vanilla townie

.

the sun rises. it is now day 2.

I don't think either of these are Vig shots btw. I'm not softing anything, I just don't see a Vig shooting anyone on the wagon, especially since neither were particularly scummy.

I kinda want to town lock Pooky just because I don't think he bussed Lam and I doubt the player he replaced saw a SK role PM and said "no thanks". Like it's not impossible, but it's so rare to get and I don't see why anyone would join a potential SK game and not actually want to play as one.

I get the angleshoot with the SK but I don't get the points about the Vig or why Pooky couldn't have bussed?

I think if a Vig exists then they shoot me or Cakez, or at least bare minimum shooting someone off wagon who might look like they were trying to save Lam. CSF and Maria weren't particularly scummy enough to outweigh someone who didn't participate in a flash wagon on scum, and no one seemed to be tunneled on either of them so I doubt it was a shot from a overconfident Vig.

Pooky could have bussed, but I think he's also a very influential player who people want to listen to and keep around. I think if he wanted to, he could've killed the wagon's momentum and made people look elsewhere.

[Frogsterking]

I appreciate 273 by the way, Enchant. Thank you!

[Roden]

I started thinking my vote was getting stale and wanted to vote somewhere else, but I realized Tet hasn't even posted yet.

VOTE: Mala

Might go back when Tet shows up unless the content is good.

Townie

I have a slight town read on froggie

Lam feels awk and I can’t really ping why

Mala's chances of being a wolf go up 50% if Lam is a villager based on this alone. Almost vote worthy, will think about it.

LAM/DV//RODEN
CAT
.
BELLA ENCHANT MALA

I should probably think of some questions to ask people I'm feeling fuzzy on but I can't think of anything that would genuinely make me go "ah yes you lean this way."

Would vote: Bella/Enchant
Maybe vote: Roden/Cakez
Not voting: Mala/DV/Frog/CSF/BBT

Mala and DV probably keep Maria around if either of them are scum, they were off wagon and would be desperate for allies. On the other hand, Enchant would want her gone the most.

VOTE: Enchant

[Enchant]

Scum Roles

TTTTTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, serial killer

TTTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT (roleblock, ninja kill, strongman kill) OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}**
TTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}
TTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}
T = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, serial killer
0 Ts = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}

~ serial killer chooses their ability pregame.

Oooh i kinda botched that.

If we are in 5T (closest for existance of SK which i also think is case), then there's

one

mafia member and SK. Therefore my list is incorrect.

[Roden]

I appreciate 273 by the way, Enchant. Thank you!

Just now realizing that Enchant said he would Vig Maria.

@Enchant:

Why would you Vig Maria?

[Enchant]

Why not, she could push me

[Roden]

Scum Roles

TTTTTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, serial killer

TTTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT (roleblock, ninja kill, strongman kill) OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}**
TTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}
TTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}
T = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, serial killer
0 Ts = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}

~ serial killer chooses their ability pregame.

Oooh i kinda botched that.

If we are in 5T (closest for existance of SK which i also think is case), then there's

one

mafia member and SK. Therefore my list is incorrect.

I don't really get how the set up works, but if this is a 2 scum + 1 SK game then Cakes probably just is the second scum.

[Bellaphant]

Roden's much more likely to be town now.

Can someone talk to me about their gamma sr?

P-edit I also said idve vigged Maria but that's specifically because their position around me felt odd.

[Bellaphant]

I don't think lammode/enchant internations say s/s

[Frogsterking]

MariaR kas been killed night 1. she was a

town vengeful

.

Cat Scratch Fever has been killed night 1. she was a

vanilla townie

.

the sun rises. it is now day 2.

I don't think either of these are Vig shots btw. I'm not softing anything, I just don't see a Vig shooting anyone on the wagon, especially since neither were particularly scummy.

I kinda want to town lock Pooky just because I don't think he bussed Lam and I doubt the player he replaced saw a SK role PM and said "no thanks". Like it's not impossible, but it's so rare to get and I don't see why anyone would join a potential SK game and not actually want to play as one.

I get the angleshoot with the SK but I don't get the points about the Vig or why Pooky couldn't have bussed?

I think if a Vig exists then they shoot me or Cakez, or at least bare minimum shooting someone off wagon who might look like they were trying to save Lam. CSF and Maria weren't particularly scummy enough to outweigh someone who didn't participate in a flash wagon on scum, and no one seemed to be tunneled on either of them so I doubt it was a shot from a overconfident Vig.

Pooky could have bussed, but I think he's also a very influential player who people want to listen to and keep around. I think if he wanted to, he could've killed the wagon's momentum and made people look elsewhere.

Okay thank you for explaining about the Vig. I think scum!pooky probably could have derailed the wagon if they wanted to, I'm not sure that's how scum!pooky thinks though. I also think the way lammolde got hammered scum!pooky may not have expected the wagon to go through when it did and hopped on it mainly for distancing.

[Roden]

Why not, she could push me

If you were a Vig, then you'd be confirmed town and she couldn't push you

PE: Maybe my view of the game is just the odd one out

[Enchant]

Scum Roles

TTTTTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, serial killer

TTTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT (roleblock, ninja kill, strongman kill) OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}**
TTTTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker} OR {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TTTT = mafia goon, mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}
TTT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}, serial killer
TT = mafia goon, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, {godfather OR mafia tailor}
T = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}, serial killer
0 Ts = mafia tailor, mafia godfather, {mafia JOAT OR mafia roleblocker}

~ serial killer chooses their ability pregame.

Oooh i kinda botched that.

If we are in 5T (closest for existance of SK which i also think is case), then there's

one

mafia member and SK. Therefore my list is incorrect.

I don't really get how the set up works, but if this is a 2 scum + 1 SK game then Cakes probably just is the second scum.

I put simple.
If we have 2 town PRs, then mafia had 2 members on start+SK.

Why not, she could push me

If you were a Vig, then you'd be confirmed town and she couldn't push you

PE: Maybe my view of the game is just the odd one out

I would had claimed, and then my murderspree would end!

[Frogsterking]

Why not, she could push me

If you were a Vig, then you'd be confirmed town and she couldn't push you

PE: Maybe my view of the game is just the odd one out

It's possible I'm the odd one out as well, I'm on tilt right now.

[Frogsterking]

I don't think lammode/enchant internations say s/s

+1

[Roden]

Looking through CSF's ISO, she didn't have any strong reads or pushes and basically only interacted with like, four people. Possibly just a low info kill, I don't think it points to anyone in particular.

[Roden]

Why not, she could push me

If you were a Vig, then you'd be confirmed town and she couldn't push you

PE: Maybe my view of the game is just the odd one out

It's possible I'm the odd one out as well, I'm on tilt right now.

I feel like you've got your finger on the pulse of this game tbh.

[Roden]

UNVOTE:

I think I need to step back a bit here. I still think Lam's interactions with Enchant are off, but the Maria kill has a real possibility of just being a frame attempt on Enchant.