Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VT

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Aisa, that's all I ask. Take a closer look at Infinity, I think they're being town read for theory posting and talking about town reads which is easy for scum to do.

The difficult part is faking scum reads and Infinity doesn't seem to do so well in that area.

I'm VT

[Lucian]

VT!

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That mass claim really helped haha.

Can we elim Infinity now?

[Lucian]

So, assuming nobody but scum and the Doc are lying, we're in DDMVTTT, right? Which would mean an SK.

If Klick is SK that's lying, then we're in DDMTTTT, which doesn't have an SK. So can't be. Same goes if he's scum claiming an SK's kill.

[Alianna]

3.02

Votecount 3.02

BlueBloodedToffee (2): Aisa, Klick
Infinity 324 (1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting (5): Cat Scratch Fever, Infinity 324, Lucian, Gamma Emerald, Hiraki

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination and 4 to secure a no-elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-07 09:55:49).

[Lucian]

Hehe sorry to change votes right after the VC but i'm hopping back on Infinity. I don't feel great voting with both infinity and gamma and I'm getting scumvibes from gamma rn. Voting furtive because you get SK vibes from them is weird. Sussing furtive because they include SK in their solve is also weird. I dont think either reasoning is sufficient enough to mean anything.

VOTE: Infinity

This was when Infinity was played at E-2. Dunn was very much around, but he didn't seem too interested in voting there.

Not looking like I'm likely to have original thoughts here.

[Aisa]

Ffs

We could also be in DDDDVMT, which also implies a serial killer.
Or assuming Klick is lying we could be in DDDDMTT, but again that's impossible, because there is no SK or vig in the setup.

So this pretty much confirms Klick is town and confirms the presence of an SK. Again, assuming nobody but scum, SK, and doctor(s?) are lying.

...This is actually pretty exciting!

[Lucian]

I vaguely dislike Dunn complaining about Aisa's memes on page 27, and this is moreso a note to myself that I need too re-evalue Dunn tomorrow.

I read this as kind of lackluster fake distancing tbh.

Dunn/Aisa distancing or Lucian/Dunn distancing?

Oh hey, this was a post.

[Lucian]

I'm really hoping this is just DDVVMTT, and Klick is trying to big brain it. I don't want to deal with an SK.

Aisa, can you explain to me in 100 words or less why BBT is scum?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not good at set-up stuff, do we definitely have a SK?

[Lucian]

I'm not good at set-up stuff, do we definitely have a SK?

As far as I understand: either Klick is lying about being 1-shot (Klick, don't confirm or deny this), another PR is claiming VT for the lols, or we have an SK.

It's a possibility that one of the reasons there have been so few kills is that the SK's Bulletproof soaked up one of them. So.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Ah, shit.

Well, my bet for SK is Gamma.

I would also like to respectfully request that SK kills me so I don't have to deal with trying to find you. Many thanks.

[Lucian]

Oh, and putting this out there. The Doc should 50/50 whether they protect Hiraki or Klick tonight. Force scum into hunting the Doc instead of just killing the conftowns.

[Lucian]

Good talk.

I'm thinking it's between Infinity and Aisa. Gamma would be my third pick, but I don't think that is very likely.

[Infinity 324]

The difficult part is faking scum reads and Infinity doesn't seem to do so well in that area.

this is a. not true and b. i don't have many scumreads as town normally

[Hiraki]

I'm second guessing doc claiming VT.

[Hiraki]

Maybe we come back to it tomorrow though?

[Gamma Emerald]

Good talk.

I'm thinking it's between Infinity and Aisa. Gamma would be my third pick, but I don't think that is very likely.

Why Aisa?

[Lucian]

If the Doc gets run up, they can claim. So I don't see the benefit of them claiming now.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe we come back to it tomorrow though?

I’d say come back to it if there’s a kill in the VT claims and it’s not a doc flip

[Lucian]

Why Aisa?

Weird associates with Enchant. Not sure what her push on BBT even is. Is that my fault for not carefully reading? Maybe. But if she can't explain her read there in a few words, then I worry it's made up.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Reading Dunnstral's ISO for associatives is like trying to draw water from a stone :/

Dunnstral definitely left himself open to voting either froggo or Infinity D2, but I don't think it's wise to rule out SvS with Infinity; he wasn't the main instigator of the Infinity push by any means. In fact, he seemed a bit pocket-y of BBT there (1149, 1210

Dunnstral barely mentions Aisa at all except for a weird comment about posting memes in her PT in 637 but then never pushed there. He chose to vote Mala shortly afterward instead.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I would also benefit from a tl;dr on the BBT scumcase because time is limited and reading wallposts aren't a huge priority rn

[Cat Scratch Fever]

yo if we really do have an SK, tomorrow could be ELO if we mislim today right? 5 alive tomorrow?