Open 860 | Elected Decisions | Postgame

[Fun Times]

I've never said that scum reading me is an issue. I'm not playing well this game, I haven't argued that. I'm getting annoyed that andante is acting like I'm not engaging when I clearly am - I don't think that's unfair?

Sure but the reason we switched our vote is because we don’t think your ISO makes sense and it looks as though tou were shading us for that entirely reasonable take.

Like I can requote those posts again. You initially sr Galron for pretty much the same reason you later tr him and then you sr us for pushing him rather considering the possibility we could be confibiased.

And then you say scum!Bella would accuse Andante of “busywork” is just beyond ridiculous since it’s very clearly the exact opposite of what she was doing.

I still do not understand how you got to sr Galron to tr him for pretty much the exact same reasoning?

Being aggressive and snippy? Can you not see why that’s not making sense to us?

~N

[Fun Times]

(telling galron they are trying to distract and accusing me of ignoring them when the opposite is happening does feel like a narrative, btw. However I'm starting to think andandte does actually believe that's happening, which is....wild)

Andante doesn’t think that anymore - the part about Galron trying to distract but she does believe you haven’t answered but I don’t really care about that. I care a lot more that you’re not seeing why your Galron progression isn’t making sense, so why don’t you just explain to us? That’s all we’re asking.

Your Galron progression.

~N

[Bellaphant]

I have. My initial read was based on tone, I spoke to them, found them reasonable, found context for their tone as well (post 95) and ditched the read because tone isn't ia and it's my weakness in mafia to read it as if it was. I've also said quite clearly I'm not married to a tr as other people are saying they know better from meta. It's not that I town and scum read them for the same thing, it's that I realised scum reading them for It wasn't valid, especially if it's just them - I find andanye similar and I'm trying to do the same thing with them. Later someone called them erratic, and I agreed - I still think they are an emotional player. I just don't happen to think they've been massively scummy and 'town enough for day one' was fine.

I can't make up something that isn't there - that's all it is. I'm sorry if that doesn't answer your question but I really don't know how else I can say it.

[Bellaphant]

It feels like busy work because in my head it's genuinely 'bella had a shit read and said it was shit'. I don't know what I'm not explaining that's making it feel this important.

[Fun Times]

I have. My initial read was based on tone, I spoke to them, found them reasonable, found context for their tone as well (post 95) and ditched the read because tone isn't ia and it's my weakness in mafia to read it as if it was. I've also said quite clearly I'm not married to a tr as other people are saying they know better from meta. It's not that I town and scum read them for the same thing, it's that I realised scum reading them for It wasn't valid, especially if it's just them - I find andanye similar and I'm trying to do the same thing with them. Later someone called them erratic, and I agreed - I still think they are an emotional player. I just don't happen to think they've been massively scummy and 'town enough for day one' was fine.

I can't make up something that isn't there - that's all it is. I'm sorry if that doesn't answer your question but I really don't know how else I can say it.

Okay this is better.

~N

[Fun Times]

It feels like busy work because in my head it's genuinely 'bella had a shit read and said it was shit'. I don't know what I'm not explaining that's making it feel this important.

This not so much because you really didn’t explain anything until now. so don’t understand how you’re getting “busywork” from Andante’s posting? Her most recent posts are the complete antithesis of that.

~N

[Bellaphant]

I feel like that's what I've been saying throughout. Maybe also busywork bus the wrong word - to me it looks like a lot of noise over a minor thingn - can you see that from my point of view?

[Fun Times]

I feel like that's what I've been saying throughout. Maybe also busywork bus the wrong word - to me it looks like a lot of noise over a minor thingn - can you see that from my point of view?

I think it’s possible you see it that way but I don’t because I was on the same page as Andante - not seeing your progression.

Tonally, I like you better than Galron. \_0_/

[Fun Times]

I still feel that we asked you valid questions and your response feels a bit like a discredit.

So that’s where I’m at.

~N

[Bellaphant]

I find it weird that you can't see what I'm saying, because I don't feel like ym answer changed massively from my first to last answer, so can you see why I feel the noise to output feels off?

It's probably irrelevant - I don't think scum you tries this hard about a sort of moot point and I think scum!Bella has a better answer for you X

[Bellaphant]

I waa going to draw a flow chart at one point and decided that felt a bit passive aggressive but now wish I had

[Radical Rat]

I'm pretty sure this is TvT.
Have more thoughts but my break is almost over, no time to write them out right now.

[Fun Times]

I waa going to draw a flow chart at one point and decided that felt a bit passive aggressive but now wish I had

I mean, if it's not too late... can I please see the flow chart!!! Pictures help me understand more clearly!!

-Andante

[Bellaphant]

And Bella you still haven't explained anything.

[Frogsterking]

Looks like chicken scratch.

Divulge Roden

[Frogsterking]

Looks like chicken scratch.

Divulge Roden

*Please. Please Divulge Roden.

[Fun Times]

UNVOTE:

@Frogs, why is Roden scum?

[Frogsterking]

I'm pretty sure this is TvT.
Have more thoughts but my break is almost over, no time to write them out right now.

This post is scummy though for real. Why does Radical Rat feel a need to defend his thoughts, and if he has reasons for what he's saying, why not share them?

[Frogsterking]

UNVOTE:

@Frogs, why is Roden scum?

Their first two posts were scummy and performative and then their slot did a couple things I didn't like after that.

[Fun Times]

I'm pretty sure this is TvT.
Have more thoughts but my break is almost over, no time to write them out right now.

This post is scummy though for real. Why does Radical Rat feel a need to defend his thoughts, and if he has reasons for what he's saying, why not share them?

I don’t see that post as scummy.

~N

[Frogsterking]

I'm down to divulge any of Radical Rat, Greeting, and Roden, with my preference being Roden. I don't like how Roden reacted to my push. I think my interaction with them is AI that we're TvS.

[Radical Rat]

I'm pretty sure this is TvT.
Have more thoughts but my break is almost over, no time to write them out right now.

This post is scummy though for real. Why does Radical Rat feel a need to defend his thoughts, and if he has reasons for what he's saying, why not share them?

If you would read the post, you would see the reason I didn't share them, that being the end of my break and a lack of time to write a longer post.

[Galron]

And Bella you still haven't explained anything.

lol nicely done!

[Radical Rat]

Now that I am off work, I have the ability to elaborate further.

But yeah, it looked to me like Bella and Andante we're just talking past one another. Bella did definitely answer Andante's questions, if not quite to her satisfaction, but I get the sense that Bella herself doesn't fully understand the reason her read changed beyond what she's already expressed. And sometimes that happens.

For Andante's part, it looks like she was hyperfocusing on Bella's personal grievances ('too aggressive', wanting to talk to Nancy instead, etc.), and overlooking Bella's genuine attempts to answer the questions in between.

In both cases, it looks like frustrated Town, and not Mafia flavored aggression, so I believe the exchange to have been TvT.

[Radical Rat]

At present, I would be willing to move to Galron, but my preference is still Frogster.

Galron is an "I have no idea how to read" slot, while Frog is an active scumread.

Enchant, Fun Times, Bellaphant, and Roden are all fairly strong townreads, and I'd rather not divulge them today.