Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

[Alianna]

1.16

Votecount 1.16

Enchant (3): Hiraki, Lucian, Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee (3): Infinity 324, froggodoggo, furtiveglance
Malakittens (1): Enchant
Hiraki (1): Klick
furtiveglance (1): BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting (4): Malakittens, Dunnstral, Gamma Emerald, Aisa

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-07-24 18:36:43).

[froggodoggo]

also i don't really see a reason for scum to be starting a big fight here?

Is this about furtive or BBT?

[Infinity 324]

furtive (bbt was already under pressure)

[Gamma Emerald]

like pushing what seems like a utr with 3 days left until the deadline is not super productive

What UTR is being pushed, and by whom?

[Infinity 324]

oh i was talking about the part where bbt was pushing froggo

[Gamma Emerald]

:/

[furtiveglance]

i mean after the past few pages i still don't have more than a slight scumlean on BBT. still prefer csf to be honest. i guess furtive is towny for agreeing with me there (also i don't really see a reason for scum to be starting a big fight here? maybe if like enchant is a buddy. idk)

Do you mean 'prefer' eliminating CSF? Because you unvoted them.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Need to think before i vote.

This surprises me ngl

I have limited time, so this is going to basically be a fancy prodge until tomorrow

But I wanted to quickly elaborate on this. I've played with Enchant in several games now, and I never really got the impression that he was the type to withhold his vote until he was really "sure" someone was scum

We're also in a relatively low info phase (or we were, I haven't read recent posts except for Enchant's ISO), so this reticent behavior feels weird. I think being fast and loose with votes is town indicative.

[Lucian]

That's a really interesting response. Almost every reply so far has you down as town Froggo, and I would have to agree. I wondered whether anyone would pick it up and run with it but they haven't.

So the whole push on froggo was an elaborate reaction test?

Iiiiiiiiiinteresting...

I also forgot to include Dunn in my maybe pile. What's so interesting about my list anyway?

Let's do it. A voluntary gladiate. Me vs you.

VOTE: Furtive

Nooo, my Enchant wagon. ;_;

[BlueBloodedToffee]

No, I genuinely scum read them but their response to me felt super towny. It just flipped my read almost on the spot. I wanted to leave it open to see if anyone would try and continue my push on Frog before I gave my opinion but they didn't.

I could revote Enchant. I don't really like vanity wagons and now that I've calmed down I'm not as sure that Furtive is scum as I was last night. I should probably stop reacting to people when they push me but, you know, old habits die hard and all that.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Enchant

[Lucian]

That's a mood. What flipped the read you had on me?

[Lucian]

like pushing what seems like a utr with 3 days left until the deadline is not super productive

oh i was talking about the part where bbt was pushing froggo

The more I think about it, the more I dislike this "pushing a UTR is not productive" line from Infinity. While I would agree that pushing a UTR this close to deadline isn't productive (especially with a case that isn't that good, no offense BBT), that push lasted about 3 and a half hours, approximately? and then BBT gave up on it, had some actual conclusions as a consequence of making that push, and started doing other things. So giving this criticism

after

that happened feels off.

Looking at that Terminator game now before I get distracted again.

[Lucian]

I really like CSF's 582.

I looked at Terminator. From what I gathered, Enchant replaced into a hame, and within half an hour hammered a choice in that phase (after voting a different person for seemingly no reason too).

When asked why he hammered, this was his response:

I'd consider enchant.

Enchant, why did you hammer me for leader instead of hectic? We were both at e-1

Idk i saw message "if you heal CSF day will end", i didn't really look votecounts.

Compared to that, this line here:

Need to think before i vote.

feels like a blatant lie.

[Lucian]

Aisa's ISO in that game has significantly more words and I don't feel like reading through it right now when we're most likely not voting her out today, but it's safe to say that she's on my radar if Enchant flips red.

[Lucian]

No, I genuinely scum read them but their response to me felt super towny. It just flipped my read almost on the spot. I wanted to leave it open to see if anyone would try and continue my push on Frog before I gave my opinion but they didn't.

Why did you vote Enchant at the time if you were genuinely scumreading froggo?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That's a mood. What flipped the read you had on me?

I think you looked better on a reread. I also started scum reading Frog so it made me think you were more likely to be town with him jumping onto your wagon.

I also liked that you were town reading me despite a) me pushing you based on weak reasoning and b) there being a clear opportunity for you to push back on me if you wanted (which I feel scum!Lucian probably takes)

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why did you vote Enchant at the time if you were genuinely scumreading froggo?

There was a viable Enchant wagon and I had no read on the slot so wanted pressure there. I find Enchant incredibly difficult to read.

I also wanted to wait for Froggo to respond to me before really pushing for a wagon there.

[Infinity 324]

Do you mean 'prefer' eliminating CSF? Because you unvoted them.

we unvoted them when the wagon fell apart. i feel like it's important to have our vote on a wagon at this point in the day

[Infinity 324]

So giving this criticism after that happened feels off.

yeah i wasn't all the way caught up when i posted that

[Alianna]

Enchant is being prodded.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'm going to bed now. Hiraki/Me/Lucian/Aisa/Froggo are the towncore, Dunnstral/Enchant/Infinity/Klick/Malakittens have done enough for a temporary townpass, BBT/CSF/GE contains the motherload of Impostors.

Come on now, Mala has done enough for a temporary townpass?

I think your reactions to BBT on the last 2 pages were towny, but I think you're very tunneled

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I looked at Terminator. From what I gathered, Enchant replaced into a hame, and within half an hour hammered a choice in that phase (after voting a different person for seemingly no reason too).

To be frank, if Enchant had said something silly like "I'm just waiting to yolo hammer," I probably would've shrugged it off as in-character for Enchant

But yeah, he feels out of character here

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Is Aisa claiming that they have a pt where they post reaction images but nobody else is in it?

Yeah like a notes or personal PT. Where were you going with this questioning?

[froggodoggo]

I'm going to bed now. Hiraki/Me/Lucian/Aisa/Froggo are the towncore, Dunnstral/Enchant/Infinity/Klick/Malakittens have done enough for a temporary townpass, BBT/CSF/GE contains the motherload of Impostors.

Come on now, Mala has done enough for a temporary townpass?

I think your reactions to BBT on the last 2 pages were towny, but I think you're very tunneled

Wait what I didn’t notice this at all. Wtf has Mala done to get a townpass???