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[Fun Times]

Happy to vote divulge now?

I personally think it’s a great mechanic because unlike a lim, only mafia would freak out at the possibility. People often sr people’s reactions to getting voted up but that’s often nai, not so with divulge. No townie should have a problem with that.

~N

[Frogsterking]

but whatever, divulge Enchant if yall want town, divulge RR if you want a scum. (I'm letting Nancy have the votes)

Also, I think RCE is town, they had some early posts I liked "Are players nominated for a pr roll during the day or is it a night phase thing? Like a secret ballot?" that was a good post, like, I do not see scum going "do we get PRs during the day or night"

and yeah, that's roughly where I'm at.

-Andante

I don't like andante's posts do far but I feel like nancy would be trying to pocket me as scum and that's the opposite effect she's having on me. Plus I'm weary of the sincerity behind the people townreading them. The townreads came at a time where I was skeptical of their slot. So that implies a wolf in that pool, TMI'ing this slot.
Net read: townlean.

What is this? like, you don't like my posts? I think there were like 2 or 3. 1 I thought you were freaking scummy cause I asked "Are we voting for 1 person or 2 people" and you gave this giant essay that just didn't answer my question, and felt a lot like just repeating how it was explained to you in scum chat, thus I asked again "1 or 2" and then Galron yelled at me for calling him maf, like, what is there to "not like" about my posts? I told yall I wasn't gonna be around yesterday, Nancy wanted help understanding this setup, I jumped in, got the clarification, looked at some ISOs, and called it a day. I really don't see what was there to "not like" can I get the specific posts of mine you initially hated?

-Andante

This post is a good example of my grievance.

You make it seem like there's an expectation that I must like your posts. You also changed the wording of my feelings from "dislike" to "hate". Words like "freaking" and "yelled" are escalating vocabulary. This post could have been a THIRD of its original size and conveyed the same question.

IE, you're coming off waaay too intense for me and I don't know what I did to warrant this.

I’d probably divulge within PP(hard read for me), Galron (Saw some uncharacteristic overcompensating on skim through), frog (I think I saw some iffy posting but idr)

I have a 2nd scumread which I don't feel compelled to out yet. I feel reasonably certain I know what I'm doing in this game as far as dayplay is concerned and I can hand you two scum. If Roden is divulged as Town (which I don't think will happen) then it will prove that I'm wrong. I'm still sitting on Galron, Fun, Radical Rat and Bella as Town.

[PenguinPower]

Happy to vote divulge now?

why - you wanna be n_m?

[Taly]

Andante is pissing me off. I can't tell if she's maf or jut conf biasing. I don't have a read on Nancy. Hence I'm stuck.

I don't think I have any town reads. Maybe enchant.

Good time to reasses. Do you think I gained a thing with my "white knight"?

galron/kitty/Enchant are townreads

Okay, but why is

Galron

a townread?

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by

Andante

or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

galron/kitty/Enchant are townreads

Okay, but why is

Galron

a townread?

I’d also like to know why Kitty is?

Because they voted for you?

@Taly

~N

Honestly yeah I'm a little pocketed.

But when

Frogs

asked for

Kitty

to explain and she just gave a tonal reason... like... I think that's less usual for scum to fake?

You'd think scum would have a better worded reason.

And certainly odd for scum to heal me, a town that is "power-hungry."

Enough to make me turn my beak.

[Taly]

low effort reads

frogs/roden

is not T/T, 1v1 felt forced, individually skeptical of both of their intros.

galron/kitty/Enchant

are townreads

I don't like

andante's

posts do far but I feel like

nancy

would be trying to pocket me as scum and that's the opposite effect she's having on me. Plus I'm weary of the sincerity behind the people townreading them. The townreads came at a time where I was skeptical of their slot. So that implies a wolf in that pool, TMI'ing this slot.
Net read: townlean.

Bella's

posting is inoffensive, not enough data for it to be AI.

RR

? Not a fond emotional imprint when I skimmed their posts yesterday. But I'm biased because they sus'd me. Still felt weird.

Pedit

PP

is fine ig

I think Taly red flip just means Frog is town here. FMPOV there is no 1v1 between me and Frog, like yeah Frog wanted a 24 hour quick hammer but that's just how the guy plays. I feel line this post is trying to cheer lead Frog and I into continuing to argue with each other without picking a side.

VOTE: Divulge Taly

What a defensive reaction. Must have hit a nerve.

So what will happen when I flip green? You return to bussing

Frogs

?

[Taly]

but whatever, divulge Enchant if yall want town, divulge RR if you want a scum. (I'm letting Nancy have the votes)

Also, I think RCE is town, they had some early posts I liked "Are players nominated for a pr roll during the day or is it a night phase thing? Like a secret ballot?" that was a good post, like, I do not see scum going "do we get PRs during the day or night"

and yeah, that's roughly where I'm at.

-Andante

I don't like andante's posts do far but I feel like nancy would be trying to pocket me as scum and that's the opposite effect she's having on me. Plus I'm weary of the sincerity behind the people townreading them. The townreads came at a time where I was skeptical of their slot. So that implies a wolf in that pool, TMI'ing this slot.
Net read: townlean.

What is this? like, you don't like my posts? I think there were like 2 or 3. 1 I thought you were freaking scummy cause I asked "Are we voting for 1 person or 2 people" and you gave this giant essay that just didn't answer my question, and felt a lot like just repeating how it was explained to you in scum chat, thus I asked again "1 or 2" and then Galron yelled at me for calling him maf, like, what is there to "not like" about my posts? I told yall I wasn't gonna be around yesterday, Nancy wanted help understanding this setup, I jumped in, got the clarification, looked at some ISOs, and called it a day. I really don't see what was there to "not like" can I get the specific posts of mine you initially hated?

-Andante

This post is a good example of my grievance.

You make it seem like there's an expectation that I must like your posts. You also changed the wording of my feelings from "dislike" to "hate". Words like "freaking" and "yelled" are escalating vocabulary. This post could have been a THIRD of its original size and conveyed the same question.

IE, you're coming off waaay too intense for me and I don't know what I did to warrant this.

I’d probably divulge within PP(hard read for me), Galron (Saw some uncharacteristic overcompensating on skim through), frog (I think I saw some iffy posting but idr)

I have a 2nd scumread which I don't feel compelled to out yet. I feel reasonably certain I know what I'm doing in this game as far as dayplay is concerned and I can hand you two scum. If Roden is divulged as Town (which I don't think will happen) then it will prove that I'm wrong. I'm still sitting on Galron, Fun, Radical Rat and Bella as Town.

What do you have to lose by withholding a read... yet elude to it?

[Frogsterking]

What do you have to lose by withholding a read... yet elude to it?

Nothing!

But when Frogs asked for Kitty to explain and she just gave a tonal reason... like... I think that's less usual for scum to fake?

You'd think scum would have a better worded reason.

I agree with this take (usually), and I still want Kitty to explain their read the best they can. It's a part of the game.

[RCEnigma]

Hmm, add kitty to my would divulge list. I don’t think frog is a partner of kitty flips red.

[Greeting]

I only townread Bella and greeting.

Why?

I have a few early townreads already but

Bellaphant

isn't one of them. I'm not sure what's so towny about me either.

Think Bella’s first 2 posts are too bold to come from Bella!scum. I’m reading you town for self nominating. Literally offering yourself up as a nk is probably not a scum move. Plus as scum you would know you won’t be a night target and waking up as an untouched pr looks suspicious.

Fair enough, I guess.

[Greeting]

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by Andante or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

I have been reading this thread back and forth and I must say that I'm very surprised at this assessment. I have played several times with

Galron

before and I have never seen him so restless. Almost like he's had someone make him a much stronger coffee than usual. I am surprised, to say the least, that no one is even mentioning it.

I mean, would the

Galron

I know get so riled up over being referred to as "this"? (100) Especially since the post where

Andante

of

Fun Times

referred to the feel of the post itself, rather than aiming at dehumanising

Galron

? (95)

And like... what on Earth is this post?

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

Normally, I just see

Galron

sitting in the shadows and poking out from time to time with contributions. And his playstyle has changed dramatically since... March?

VOTE: Galron

[Taly]

What do you have to lose by withholding a read... yet elude to it?

Nothing!

Exactly what I thought. So what don't want you want to lose, because you won't say the read?

But when Frogs asked for Kitty to explain and she just gave a tonal reason... like... I think that's less usual for scum to fake?

You'd think scum would have a better worded reason.

I agree with this take (usually), and I still want Kitty to explain their read the best they can. It's a part of the game.

I'm surprised you're more interested in

Kitty

explaining their townread on me more so than I believe you and

Roden

are likely S/S.

Hmm, add kitty to my would divulge list. I don’t think frog is a partner of kitty flips red.

What logic is this?

It's so similar to

Roden

saying

"Taly!scum = Frogs!town, so divulge the first!"

Why does someone else's slot depend on another player? It feels like an excuse and it's a very easy statement to backtrack on if it's proven wrong.

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by Andante or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

I have been reading this thread back and forth and I must say that I'm very surprised at this assessment. I have played several times with

Galron

before and I have never seen him so restless. Almost like he's had someone make him a much stronger coffee than usual. I am surprised, to say the least, that no one is even mentioning it.

I mean, would the

Galron

I know get so riled up over being referred to as "this"? (100) Especially since the post where

Andante

of

Fun Times

referred to the feel of the post itself, rather than aiming at dehumanising

Galron

? (95)

And like... what on Earth is this post?

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

Normally, I just see

Galron

sitting in the shadows and poking out from time to time with contributions. And his playstyle has changed dramatically since... March?

VOTE: Galron

each baddy to their own ig, but i do want

gal's

reply to this.

[RCEnigma]

What do you have to lose by withholding a read... yet elude to it?

Nothing!

Exactly what I thought. So what don't want you want to lose, because you won't say the read?

But when Frogs asked for Kitty to explain and she just gave a tonal reason... like... I think that's less usual for scum to fake?

You'd think scum would have a better worded reason.

I agree with this take (usually), and I still want Kitty to explain their read the best they can. It's a part of the game.

I'm surprised you're more interested in

Kitty

explaining their townread on me more so than I believe you and

Roden

are likely S/S.

Hmm, add kitty to my would divulge list. I don’t think frog is a partner of kitty flips red.

What logic is this?

It's so similar to

Roden

saying

"Taly!scum = Frogs!town, so divulge the first!"

Why does someone else's slot depend on another player? It feels like an excuse and it's a very easy statement to backtrack on if it's proven wrong.

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by Andante or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

I have been reading this thread back and forth and I must say that I'm very surprised at this assessment. I have played several times with

Galron

before and I have never seen him so restless. Almost like he's had someone make him a much stronger coffee than usual. I am surprised, to say the least, that no one is even mentioning it.

I mean, would the

Galron

I know get so riled up over being referred to as "this"? (100) Especially since the post where

Andante

of

Fun Times

referred to the feel of the post itself, rather than aiming at dehumanising

Galron

? (95)

And like... what on Earth is this post?

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

Normally, I just see

Galron

sitting in the shadows and poking out from time to time with contributions. And his playstyle has changed dramatically since... March?

VOTE: Galron

each baddy to their own ig, but i do want

gal's

reply to this.

To me Kitty lacking depths in reads is scum indicative and it’s probably not something galron!scum draws attention to if they are partners with kitty.

[Galron]

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by Andante or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

I have been reading this thread back and forth and I must say that I'm very surprised at this assessment. I have played several times with

Galron

before and I have never seen him so restless. Almost like he's had someone make him a much stronger coffee than usual. I am surprised, to say the least, that no one is even mentioning it.

I mean, would the

Galron

I know get so riled up over being referred to as "this"? (100) Especially since the post where

Andante

of

Fun Times

referred to the feel of the post itself, rather than aiming at dehumanising

Galron

? (95)

And like... what on Earth is this post?

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

Normally, I just see

Galron

sitting in the shadows and poking out from time to time with contributions. And his playstyle has changed dramatically since... March?

VOTE: Galron

You've identified an anomaly, and you voted presumably because of it. But you haven't said what's scummy about it. You haven't even said whether you've seen scum me or town me not play the way I'm playing this game. You've compared my style to what exactly? What is scummy about playing differently? Why don't you unpack that for us.

[Frogsterking]

Greeting, do you think the change observed in Galron's behavior is best explained by Galron being scum?

PEdit:

@Taly

I'll wait until Roden gets run down first so I can give the 2nd player more time away from the spotlight.

You're right I'm more interested in Kitty trying to explain their tonal read than why you think me and Roden are S/S. I'm assuming you have a tendency to scum read things you don't understand and I think that's boring, the opposite of interesting. Feel free to explain why you think Roden and I are S/S if you want, if you take the time to write it out I will at the very least read it and try to keep an open mind, but be warned I will be honest and tell you if I think it boils down to "I don't understand therefore I think it's scum."

[Galron]

To me Kitty lacking depths in reads is scum indicative and it’s probably not something galron!scum draws attention to if they are partners with kitty.

Wtf is this? Why are you trying to tie me to kitty? No one has even hinted at something so ludicrous I guess and here you are looking like you're trying to plant a seed that will produce what exactly? Show me where anyone has compared me with kitty. Explain why you're using galron and kitty in the same sentence.

[Frogsterking]

To me Kitty lacking depths in reads is scum indicative and it’s probably not something galron!scum draws attention to if they are partners with kitty.

Wtf is this? Why are you trying to tie me to kitty? No one has even hinted at something so ludicrous I guess and here you are looking like you're trying to plant a seed that will produce what exactly? Show me where anyone has compared me with kitty. Explain why you're using galron and kitty in the same sentence.

This is a fair assessment.

[Frogsterking]

Greeting, do you think the change observed in Galron's behavior is best explained by Galron being scum?

This is also a good question

@Puppets

with regards to Taly.

[Frogsterking]

Greeting, do you think the change observed in Galron's behavior is best explained by Galron being scum?

This is also a good question

@Puppets

with regards to Taly.

To Nancy specifically.

[Roden]

Yeah Frog I don't think I'm gonna get run up just because you demand it after blatantly taking my posts out of context

Instead of trying to bully everyone into doing what you say and ignoring reality, maybe you could treat us like human beings and respect me enough to not constantly scream how I'm scum because of something you made up in your head

Otherwise I'm not gonna be interacting with you anymore this game

[Taly]

galron

, eat a snickers, they're really good, i am eating one right now

frogs

, it's convenient for you to suggest that I scumread things that I do not understand when you aren't forthcoming about your intentions.

231, you want to dayvig a player and yet you don't vote divulgence?
you clearly have a scumread, but don't want to do a thing about it.

and the fact that you're willing to bargain your confidence in reads 226 to campaign for departure rather than a plan to prohibit mislims is bewildering.
you're

so confident, that if you are wrong, you can be NKed tomorrow

... sounds more like you're interested in asserting your agenda for who wants to be eliminated, and then proceed to give yourself a chance for defense later. asking for apology, not permission.

didnt i make a post challenging you, on why departure wasn't optimal,

frogs

?

roden

pivoting off of you in favor to target me only sells the idea of you guys being S/S.
why would scum want to divulge their own players? that's literal gamethrowing.

your posts are disingenuous and the only reason i can surmise that you're insulting my intelligence by assuming why ive come to the conclusions that i have is thoughtless, is because you don't want a dissenting opinion in the thread. it's just to shut me up.

put your money where your mouth is and vote

roden

.
or me, since you seem well-aware that im not a popular townread in this game. probably influenced why you have such a poor disposition to my POV.

greetings, VOTE: are for departure/divulgence, HEAL: are for powers

pedit

Yeah Frog I don't think I'm gonna get run up just because you demand it after blatantly taking my posts out of context

Instead of trying to bully everyone into doing what you say and ignoring reality, maybe you could treat us like human beings and respect me enough to not constantly scream how I'm scum because of something you made up in your head

Otherwise I'm not gonna be interacting with you anymore this game

im pretty good at preventing myself from confbiasing

join the

frogs!divulgence

wagon, we got cookies.

[Frogsterking]

Sorry I'm going to dodge this clash, I don't think it will help the thread. It sounds like you (Roden) think I'm Town so I prefer if you find someone to push other than myself.

[Taly]

oh don't worry

frogs

...

roden's

more interested in me...

[Frogsterking]

231, you want to dayvig a player and yet you don't vote divulgence?
you clearly have a scumread, but don't want to do a thing about it.

I stopped reading here. Look in my iso, I've asked multiple players to vote for Roden. Even if you missed that I'm clearly advocating for Roden to be killed rather than doing nothing about my scumread on him. This is starting to look like an irrational tunnel from a Townie who doesn't understand my Townplay.

[Taly]

oh the votes confused me, i think you did vote

roden

.

hmmm

pedit

231, you want to dayvig a player and yet you don't vote divulgence?
you clearly have a scumread, but don't want to do a thing about it.

I stopped reading here. Look in my iso, I've asked multiple players to vote for Roden. Even if you missed that I'm clearly advocating for Roden to be killed rather than doing nothing about my scumread on him. This is starting to look like an irrational tunnel from a Townie who doesn't understand my Townplay.

please stop talking down to me.

ill revisit the thread later.

[Frogsterking]

oh the votes confused me, i think you did vote

roden

.

hmmm

pedit

231, you want to dayvig a player and yet you don't vote divulgence?
you clearly have a scumread, but don't want to do a thing about it.

I stopped reading here. Look in my iso, I've asked multiple players to vote for Roden. Even if you missed that I'm clearly advocating for Roden to be killed rather than doing nothing about my scumread on him. This is starting to look like an irrational tunnel from a Townie who doesn't understand my Townplay.

please stop talking down to me.

ill revisit the thread later.

I'm talking down to the play (your push on me) not the player (you.) In fact I think you seem like you might be a good player, your read on my slot isn't good though. I'm also hoping to hear back from Nancy about their read on you because I think you're arguing with me like a Townie would here.