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[eldarad]

Times like these make me wish I had unlimited daykill abilities.

Why? Because you are SCUM?!? (joke...)

Before I say something I may regret, eldarad. Could you elaborate on [

post 305

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charter has gone out of his way to create 'scumbuddy' links with afatchic. Bear witness:
- the repeated failure to read afatchic and express an opinion on him. Compare and constrast charter's actions towards Avinyl/me.
- the repeated refusal to express an opinion on afatchic
- the fact that charter neither supports or opposes an afatchic lynch

Usually, you would expect a scum to avoid expressing an opinion on their scumbuddies, or have a neutral-ish read on them. The fact that charter has repeatedly portrayed these traits towards afatchic so often and so blatantly suggests to me that he is trying to deliberately manufacture a scumbuddy link with someone who isn't actually his scumbuddy.

Hence lynching charter will give us more information than a JD lynch, or an eldarad lynch, or a Vi lynch. (Or an afatchic lynch, actually.)
If charter flips scum - and I strongly believe that he will - then I would suggest that afatchic is largely cleared.
If charter flips town then my whole "charter is manufacturing a scumbddy link" theory is obviously a load of crap. I certainly wouldn't support lynching afatchic on the back of a charter mislynch.

[Vi]

So you're interested in clearing afatchic from charter's flip,

regardless

of how charter flips...?
Check that logic again. I've not had a blind eye to your near-sensible statements.

Hence lynching charter will give us more information than a JD lynch, or an eldarad lynch, or a Vi lynch. (Or an afatchic lynch, actually.)

And what of a Moospiker lynch or an M-M lynch?

[eldarad]

So you're interested in clearing afatchic from charter's flip, regardless of how charter flips...?

Given that I didn't say that I would clear afatchic if charter flipped town, I don't see how you reached that conclusion.

And what of a Moospiker lynch or an M-M lynch?

I don't propose lynching either of those player Today and I don't anticipate that becoming a contentious issue. I mentioned your name in that list because I was answering you specifically.

[Vi]

So you're interested in clearing afatchic from charter's flip, regardless of how charter flips...?

Given that I didn't say that I would clear afatchic if charter flipped town, I don't see how you reached that conclusion.

"Cleared" is a big word. The idea nonetheless stands; IYO afatchic would look better no matter how charter flips. Which the way you put it just sounds like an excuse for a charter lynch.

Unvote: charter

[charter]

charter has gone out of his way to create 'scumbuddy' links with afatchic. Bear witness:
- the repeated failure to read afatchic and express an opinion on him. Compare and constrast charter's actions towards Avinyl/me.
- the repeated refusal to express an opinion on afatchic
- the fact that charter neither supports or opposes an afatchic lynch

I've said I don't think afatchic is scum. Repeatedly. I haven't failed to do anything. I oppose the afatchic lynch (pretty sure I've said that) because it's not an eld lynch.

So you're interested in clearing afatchic from charter's flip, regardless of how charter flips...?

Given that I didn't say that I would clear afatchic if charter flipped town, I don't see how you reached that conclusion.

"Cleared" is a big word. The idea nonetheless stands; IYO afatchic would look better no matter how charter flips. Which the way you put it just sounds like an excuse for a charter lynch.

Unvote: charter

Glad someone besides me saw that as well.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

After a whole month, the Jeopardy music is still playing for afatchic...

[eldarad]

IYO afatchic would look better no matter how charter flips. Which the way you put it just sounds like an excuse for a charter lynch.

Your reaction genuinely surprises me.

I did not even say that afatchic would look better if charter flips town. Rather, I am trying to make links between potential scumbuddies, and eliminate pairs that don't seem plausible.
Clearly, that exercise is much better informed when we have some dead bodies to analyse. So I'm prepared to scrap my current thinking Tomorrow if it proves to be incorrect (eg, because charter flips town and therefore couldn't have been manufacturing scumbuddy links with afatchic).
I did not exclude the possibility that afatchic could be scum independently of charter - I just said that I would have to go back to the drawing board as my thinking from Today would have been obviously and demonstrably wrong.

I've said I don't think afatchic is scum. Repeatedly. I haven't failed to do anything. I oppose the afatchic lynch (pretty sure I've said that) because it's not an eld lynch.

I'm pretty sure you specifically didn't oppose an afatchic lynch because it "wasn't an obvious mislynch" but you wouldn't support it either - because the scum are eld and Moo and therefore afatchic can't be scum.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I now consider afatchic's offenses to be even greater than JDodge's.

Unvote, vote: afatchic

@charter and elderad and Vi: what do three make of afatchic's continuous trend of delaying his promises and not delivering them?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

EBWOP: what do you three make of afatchic's continuous trend of delaying his promises and not delivering them

[charter]

VOTECOUNT please!

Just looked at afatchic's post history, he's been posting in plenty of other games. Afatchic, if you're out there, you're about to get lynched, any last words?

[Simenon]

Vote Count

afatchic (2)- Jdodge, Machiavellian_Mafia
eldarad (1)- charter
Vi (1)- Moospiker
charter (1)- eldarad
No Vote- afatchic , Vi

From now on, I'm ignoring all requests in all-caps. And prods coming up.

[Simenon]

eldarad: Posted on Thursday
Jdodge: Posted on Tuesday
afatchic: Posted on Tuesday
Mach-Mafia: Posted on Friday
Vi: Posted on Wednesday
charter: Posted on Friday
Moospiker: Being replaced

Prodding Jdodge, afatchic, Vi, and eldarad for good measure.

[Simenon]

Deadline is still November 16th, barring a late replacement or any of the lucky four above not picking up their prods.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Mod:

I am currently voting for afatchic, see post 332.

[Simenon]

afatchic has requested replacement.

[eldarad]

Obviously, the vote count is a test to check that we're paying attention...
I'm not voting for JDodge - my vote is currently on charter.

[Vi]

Posting

after

prod for a change.

@charter and elderad and Vi: what do three make of afatchic's continuous trend of delaying his promises and not delivering them?

I believe that replacements are the scum's enemy, and thus welcome whoever replaces afatchic.
I'm not sure WHY afatchic is being replaced though; he is posting (somewhat minimally) in other games last time I checked.

@eldarad: Nice technicality. Then let me ask this, more for summary than anything--What do YOU think of afatchic without the charter link?

I'm really starting to agree with charter about this game going nowhere. It's surreal, but the

bad

kind of surreality.

[charter]

Wait, how are replacements SCUMs enemy? I just replaced into a NG that was plagued by them. I was scum, it was easy as pie to win (two confirmed innocents and no one thought us two were scum, and it was LYLO).

I'll at least let afatchics replacement post before making final decisions. However, if I don't like the post, my vote will come with swift and mighty justice!

[charter]

Oh, and sorry, I post in caps to get the mod's attention. I can see it isn't necessary so I'll stop.

[Vi]

Wait, how are replacements SCUMs enemy? I just replaced into a NG that was plagued by them. I was scum, it was easy as pie to win (two confirmed innocents and no one thought us two were scum, and it was LYLO).

I'll at least let afatchics replacement post before making final decisions. However, if I don't like the post, my vote will come with swift and mighty justice!

Well, replacements one at a time (no comment on Newbie games <_< ).
But as a replacement, I often feel like my initial opinions are against the status quo, which the scum work to establish in their favor so nobody looks at the Man Behind the Red Curtain.

That could be inexperience talking, but whatever. What isn't theoretical is that Moospiker still needs to be replaced first

[Simenon]

kuribo replaces afatchic. Everybody acknowledge his generosity.

[kuribo]

Hi party people.

I'll catch up after I get back from lunch.

[Vi]

kuribo replaces afatchic. Everybody acknowledge his generosity.

*acknowledge, acknowledge, acknowledgment*

What of Moospiker?

[charter]

Yes, why was afatchic replaced before moospiker?

[charter]

And can we get a deadline extension too please?