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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:12 am

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Site Rules wrote:Mafia Specific Rules

Breaking rules, not posting, or certain other behavior may result in a modkill or replacement in individual games; rules regarding this should be (and generally are) included up front by the moderator.
Some rules apply to most games, and should be assumed to hold unless the moderator explicitly says otherwise.
These are:

* Do not attempt to play the same game under more than one name.
* Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.
* Do not talk outside the game thread about an ongoing game except where allowed to do so by your role. Likewise, do not use bbcode to hide secret messages - this equates to discussion outside the thread.
* Do not edit/delete posts.
* Do not quote communications with the moderator (in particular, your role PM). Paraphrasing is usually ok.

* Do not talk after you are dead or replaced. Some moderators do allow contentless "Bah!" posts, but you should never reveal information once you are dead.
* Play to win the game.
Even though I did forget to include a no-role PM quoting rule, Santos did break a site rule by doing so. Since it has already been seen, and since not punishing him for this could cause him to be confirmed, and since replacing him would not solve the problem, I am left with no choice but to modkill him.

As soon as you hear Santos say exactly what he is, a lightning bolt strikes him. When you go to check on him, you see a note saying that he had been a Neighbor before being turned into a Neutral Survivor by the act of modkilling.

Santos,
Neighbor
Neutral Survivor, modkilled Day 1.

Day continues. With 15 alive, it is 8 to lynch.

Vote Count:
Save the Dragons (1): Riceballtail
Battle Mage (1): SocioPath
ZTR (1): Empking
Riceballtail (1): Battle Mage

Not voting (11): PutaPuta, armlx, oEJo, CarnCarn, ZazieR, Moses le fou, Save the Dragon, ZTR, hp [leaves], Sineish, ribwich

With 15 alive it is 8 to lynch.

Lynch Method Vote Count:
Gun (8): hp [leaves], oEJo, ribwich, SocioPath, armlx, Sineish, CarnCarn, Riceballtail
Rope (5): Save the Dragons, Empking, Moses le fou, ZazieR, ZTR

Not voting for a lynch method (1): Thunder, Battle Mage

If a lynch were to happen without any change in lynch method votes, the Gun would be used.
Last edited by bird1111 on Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:23 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:20 am

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Ah. That makes sense.

Well, I had a feeling he was town, based on 'Neighbor' claim from the start. I'm going to
Vote: oEJo, FoS: STD, armlx
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Also,
Unvote: Gun, Vote: Rope
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:36 am

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does that mean Oejo gets a new neighbor?

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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:41 am

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Huh? Why do you think that?
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:57 am

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Hi :D
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:57 am

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Thunder wrote:Greetings...I see some new faces..and some very familiar ones.. I will read the thread and post more later
...and u never did....
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:23 am

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I don't think we should assume that this automatically made Santos town. Pretending to break the rules has the same punishment as actually breaking it.

I think I might have missed what the case against oEJo was. CarnCarn, is there a reason behind your vote other than if Santos is town there's 2/3 chance of him being scum with the T-T T-S1 T-S2 symmetry?

And I see no reason why this means oEJo would get a new neighbor....
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:31 am

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Santos was definately town. The case against oEJo is based on the symmetry arguments mentioned earlier. I FoS'd people for arguing that Santos was scum even after he claimed 'Neighbor' (the first one to, and with correct form), saying that the form didn't matter, etc.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:36 pm

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lame.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:06 pm

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Well that blows.

Unfortunately it doesn't help me prove myself as town,
unless we can possibly get an alignment with Santos' death?


CarnCarn, why was Santos 'defin
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tely town'?

Santos was town.
Just call me EJ.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:09 pm

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oEJo wrote:Well that blows.

Unfortunately it doesn't help me prove myself as town,
unless we can possibly get an alignment with Santos' death?


CarnCarn, why was Santos 'defin
i
tely town'?
Uhh, wow. First of all, he quoted his exact role PM, win condition, everything. The mod confirmed this if you read the death scene carefully enough.

Also, the fact that you don't realize this means that your own role PM is quite different, and the odds that you are scum are quite high now.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:40 pm

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Umm, sorry I was wrong, Santos?

Vote: oEJo
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:07 am

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Couldn't agree more with post 610. oEJo, you should have known that he was telling the truth if you had the same PM.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:38 am

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Vote: Oejo


I can't believe Santos quoted his role PM.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:45 am

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lol both oejo and Santos were pretty careless about their posts

Vote: oEJo


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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:40 am

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His role was Neighbor. Not 'protown Neighbor'.

Vote; Armlx


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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:05 am

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Battle Mage wrote: His role was Neighbor. Not 'protown Neighbor'
Check the win condition :roll:
I doubt he was making it up/faking it. The mod said that he revealed "exactly" what he was. I am certain he was protown.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:06 am

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Also, see mod comments in 609. lol
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:20 am

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CarnCarn wrote:
Battle Mage wrote: His role was Neighbor. Not 'protown Neighbor'
Check the win condition :roll:
I doubt he was making it up/faking it. The mod said that he revealed "exactly" what he was. I am certain he was protown.
I mean, it implies that his neighbour was also town. :roll:

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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:30 am

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Santos wrote:'You are a Neighbor, your neighbor is (oEJo), each night you may talk to him.
You do not know what alignment he is, only that you can talk to him.
During the day, you vote on who you think is a member of the one of the Mafia and whether the lynch should be by rope or by gun. You win when all the Sicilians and Corsicans are dead.'
How does this imply his neighbor is town?
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:33 am

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Also, note the "Neighbor" and "neighbor" and why I made a fuss about it earlier.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:48 am

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Vote: oEJo


I didn't really see anything scummy out of him, but I'm more inclined to believe that T-T T-S1 T-S2 is the most likely symmetry, and I have a feeling CarnCarn and armlx are the townie neighbors.

Also, why was Santos turned into a neutral survivor? Is it just so that he can't say he helped his side win since this pretty much helped us?

The modkill causing the person to turn into a neutral survivor rule is to prevent modkills from being anything but a punishment for the person being modkilled.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:19 am

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He broke one of the most important rules so the mod wanted him to lose no matter what.

BM, why the armlx vote?
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:30 am

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hp [leaves] wrote: BM, why the armlx vote?
Was thinking the same thing.

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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:57 am

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oEJo should have known which allignment Santos was as he could check his role with Santos's role. If you then still ask which allignment he was, I have some trouble believing that you as 'Neighbor' have the same role.
What do you think of oEJo, BM?

And he's probably the only neighbor who tried to lynch his partner and tried to protect himself with the possible symmetry in the neighbors.
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