Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[Mana_Ku]

The Gunsmith is an information role that can check one customer each night, and finds out whether that player has a gun (Mafia, Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, Army Veterans, etc).

Unvote

Vote Malthusis

Malthusis, did you know this? And why did you target hp?

[malthusis]

@Mana_Ku

Post#1087

Hp is lying scum trying to cover her tracks with a cop claim. I am actually a Narn Gunsmith-like role, and I got a guilty read on [hp] having the ability to kill people(The flavor says I am a good judge of character, so [hp] might not nessecarily have a gun). It's also really hard to believe we have 2 cops and 2 roleblockers in the same setup. Vote [hp] leaves

I targeted hp because I didn't believe her cop claim. (I was actually going to investigate you, but I didn't know you could change targets).

[Mana_Ku]

So what did your result say?
That he can kill or that he has a gun?

[malthusis]

It simply said that [hp] was dangerous.

[VisMaior]

OK I need to reread.

[Kinetic]

It simply said that [hp] was dangerous.

Ummm... What? No you didn't. You said much more than that.

Hp is lying scum trying to cover her tracks with a cop claim. I am actually a Narn Gunsmith-like role, and I got a guilty read on [hp] having the ability to kill people(The flavor says I am a good judge of character, so [hp] might not nessecarily have a gun). It's also really hard to believe we have 2 cops and 2 roleblockers in the same setup.

Vote [hp] leaves

Now with the confirmed revelation that a gunsmith does find a 'guilty' on cops you're backing off.

But you never claimed to have EXACTLY a gunsmith role. You claimed that HP had an ability to KILL people, and even that it might not USE a gun.

Unvote

You're going to have to explain this to me Mal.

[MafiaSSK]

It simply said that [hp] was dangerous.

Weird but usual in a Tarh game.

Unvote, vote hp

[malthusis]

@Kinetic

Now with the confirmed revelation that a gunsmith does find a 'guilty' on cops you're backing off.

But you never claimed to have EXACTLY a gunsmith role. You claimed that HP had an ability to KILL people, and even that it might not USE a gun.

Who confirmed that? I don't, which is why I said my results in the first place and started all this mess. Mana_Ku was simply asking the flavor text for my result. That's the form that I got it in. That explain it for you?

[Kinetic]

@Kinetic

Now with the confirmed revelation that a gunsmith does find a 'guilty' on cops you're backing off.

But you never claimed to have EXACTLY a gunsmith role. You claimed that HP had an ability to KILL people, and even that it might not USE a gun.

Who confirmed that? I don't, which is why I said my results in the first place and started all this mess. Mana_Ku was simply asking the flavor text for my result. That's the form that I got it in. That explain it for you?

I'm referring more to the fact that you claimed that HP has, in fact, a role which kills people. Are you claiming now that you do not know that as fact?

[malthusis]

I know that [hp] can kill for sure, or else I wouldn't have claimed.

[Natirasha]

I am in deep shit right now, and will be on V/LA, kk.

Consider this for both games, Tar.

[Tarhalindur]

"Hello. You must be Delenn. I'm Anna Sheridan. John's wife." - Anna Sheridan, oddly enough

Natirasha's V/LA is noted (in both of my games, no less).

I'll have to deal with replacements/prods/etc. in the morning, no time tonight.

I will, however, do this now: you PASS the First Mod Deadline Review (especially with a sizable portion of players needing replacement). - Tar

The Twenty-Ninth Vote Count (aka the "Gropos" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

VisMaior (0)
Empking (0)
malthusis (1) - Mana_Ku
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon) (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
armlx (0)
forbiddanlight (0)
populartajo (0)
Mana_Ku (0)
Natirasha (0)
veerus (0)
The Internet (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer) (0)
pacman281292 (0)
RandomGem (0)
hp [leaves] (7) - malthusis, armlx, DrippingGoofball, forbiddanlight, Natirasha, veerus, MafiaSSK
farside22 (rep. Tovarish) (1) - Empking

Not Voting (9): VisMaior, Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon), populartajo, The Internet, cr3t1n, pacman281292, RandomGem, farside22, hp [leaves]

Votes required to lynch: 10

FoS Count:

VisMaior
Empking (1) - veerus
malthusis
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon)
MafiaSSK (1) - veerus
armlx
forbiddanlight
populartajo
Mana_Ku
Natirasha
veerus
The Internet
DrippingGoofball
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer)
pacman281292
RandomGem
hp [leaves]
farside22 (rep. Tovarish)

Current Deadline:

November 21, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

First Mod Deadline Review:

November 14, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

[veerus]

Ah.. infamous Tar vote counts. You're either missing someone or there are 6 people currently voting for hp[leaves]. Unless hp is voting for himself? I don't remember seeing that.

The error was in failing to add the right name to the vote count. MafiaSSK is voting hp [leaves]. Fixed. - Tar

[veerus]

If hp isn't scum, then Malt dies tomorrow. It's as simple as that.

QFE.

Why the unvote? Either way we'll get one more scum. And I'd prefer to lynch hp first because if his true role doesn't correspond to the theme, I'll eat my hat.

[hp [leaves]]

Also Kinetic came up with the idea that I cleared Malt.

It's not suspicious or anything. He is 100% AOL by my evidence. Just that his logic is null.

Kinetic is cleared. Not Malt. Malt is still suspicious.

[hp [leaves]]

Wait, are you lynching me because I'm

dangerous

?

Well, Wikipedia says that I do some kind of mind reading that may hurt people. If you consider that dangerous, then I'm indeed dangerous.

Telling again, I'm only a cop; not a vig.

[hp [leaves]]

unvote

Just in case that Tar's count is right.

[Empking]

Would you mind explaining that wikipedia comment.

[Kinetic]

Also Kinetic came up with the idea that I cleared Malt.

It's not suspicious or anything. He is 100% AOL by my evidence. Just that his logic is null.

Kinetic is cleared. Not Malt. Malt is still suspicious.

I find this statement ironic since you investigated Malt and yet I'm the cleared one.

[hp [leaves]]

Kinetic, remember your 1 town, 1 scum, 1 non-town theory?

You're Minbari. Nat and KoC are also Minbari. One was scum and the other is non-town. That leaves you as AoL.

and

[quote=wiki]Bester was notorious even among his fellow telepaths of the Corps for his ruthlessness, performing illegal mind scans on Mundanes at need, disregarding privacy laws and due process and heedless of the dangers such "Deep Scans" pose to the subjects' mental and physical safety. He also had a disturbing willingness to perform so-called Deathbed Scans, combing a dying person's mind for vital information up until the very moment of death. Such scans were known to be harmful to the telepath's mental health, with some believing that one lost a piece of one's soul by being in contact with the person as they crossed the threshold. Almost no telepath, having once done so, would willingly do so a second time, with subsequent attempts thought to be very damaging to the psyche. However, Bester repeatedly volunteered for such duty, believing that he could gain some special knowledge from the experience, ultimately performing an unprecedented eight deathbed scans. During the eighth, he follows his subject into the "void" and has a near-death experience in which he is informed that a telepath investigating death only experiences what he brings in his heart; he realized his is empty as he then experiences nothingness before being resuscitated by the hospital staff attending to the dying subject.[/quote]

[hp [leaves]]

Wikipedia also says I'm a Psi-"Corp". It seems like Tar made another spelling mistake =/

[pacman281292]

Possibly intended
hmm... I still don't get malth's case; either his role is not a gunsmith but a "kill detector" (and then hp is lying) or something is going weird here.

[Mana_Ku]

It simply said that [hp] was dangerous.

got a guilty read on [hp] having the ability to kill people

I know that [hp] can kill for sure, or else I wouldn't have claimed.

The flavor says I am a good judge of character, so [hp] might not nessecarily have a gun

Contradiction?

(I was actually going to investigate Mana,

but I didn't know you could change targets

).

What do you mean with the bolded part?

[malthusis]

Malthusis wrote:
It simply said that [hp] was dangerous.

Instead of getting something like ''X is guilty'' this is what I got for my result.

[forbiddanlight]

Hmm...I'm actually beginning to buy both Hp's and malts claims. I still dislike the fact that NEITHER cop got a result, which is odd. But, actually, if malt is a gunsmith like role, it would make sense that some cops would fall under has a gun. In this case, it's a danger sense role, and certain mind raping cops ping that danger sense .

Unvote, vote The Internet

Given the theory (one of each in each race), I feel that this is a good way to test it.