Open 855: Not Mafia's Republic | Game Over

[staypositivefriend]

and i might be more willing to consider that u were telling the truth about being mafia if u could give me a good answer for who the wolves are besides just "spf/savethedragon". u choosing to call me/std obvious wolves makes me feel like ur saying that because u strategically have to and not because ur actually trying to hunt for the wolves lol

STD is outed because they counterclaimed me

before they CC'd I thought it was you/Penguin but I actually think Penguin's response to this whole fight has been uninformed, whereas yours has sorta been dancing around committing to 'Arete is a wolf' while trying to prop up STD in the counterclaim anyways

it is literally not possible for me and std to be teamed with each other and if u were actually hunting for the wolves then u would know this, but u are in anti-spew right now so it's probably not worth engaging with you

you were telling us earlier that you were great at theater

but really the person you have to convince is not me, I don't particularly expect anyone to listen to my legacy even though I am in the best position of everyone in the game to solve it

there's a difference btwn theater and deathtunneling someone who it would be strategically sub-optimal to deathtunnel. but ur right that i dont care about convincing u because u are in anti-spew regardless of if ur wolf or mafia and not being fully honest with your thoughts. im just bringing attention to how obviously fake your current view of the game is

[Arete Lastname]

throwback to when I was like 'Vulgard is literally lock evil' and tunnelled him for two phases and finally got strongman killed by the Mafia as a serial killer and despite specifically being on record as saying that I make real reads as SK people were like 'well we can just discount their Vulgard read then ' and let him endgame

I was so salty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Arete why does wolf!STD even CC you in that spot

[Save The Dragons]

arete rn

Spoiler:

[Save The Dragons]

i sure don't as a wolf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like there's two pieces of evidence working against you here:

It makes no sense for mafia to bus yesterday at 5-3-2

and

it makes no sense for wolf to CC mafia and out themselves. he's just getting yeeted tomm even if he elims you today.

[Arete Lastname]

and i might be more willing to consider that u were telling the truth about being mafia if u could give me a good answer for who the wolves are besides just "spf/savethedragon". u choosing to call me/std obvious wolves makes me feel like ur saying that because u strategically have to and not because ur actually trying to hunt for the wolves lol

STD is outed because they counterclaimed me

before they CC'd I thought it was you/Penguin but I actually think Penguin's response to this whole fight has been uninformed, whereas yours has sorta been dancing around committing to 'Arete is a wolf' while trying to prop up STD in the counterclaim anyways

it is literally not possible for me and std to be teamed with each other and if u were actually hunting for the wolves then u would know this, but u are in anti-spew right now so it's probably not worth engaging with you

you were telling us earlier that you were great at theater

but really the person you have to convince is not me, I don't particularly expect anyone to listen to my legacy even though I am in the best position of everyone in the game to solve it

there's a difference btwn theater and deathtunneling someone who it would be strategically sub-optimal to deathtunnel. but ur right that i dont care about convincing u because u are in anti-spew regardless of if ur wolf or mafia and not being fully honest with your thoughts. im just bringing attention to how obviously fake your current view of the game is

I just want to make it 100 percent clear here that my read that SPF is STD's wolf partner is genuine and the her treatment of my slot ~never comes from town, when I flip Mafia you all should not go say 'well they were Mafia so maybe they were lying,' I will make fun of you in dead chat

[staypositivefriend]

the only world where it makes sense for std to cc arete as a wolf to get arete chopped is a world where they would have faith in their partner to endgame

so a world where std is a wolf is probably a world where the wolf is super deep as well (ie: catboi/sabihydra)

just worth keeping in mind ig

[staypositivefriend]

and i might be more willing to consider that u were telling the truth about being mafia if u could give me a good answer for who the wolves are besides just "spf/savethedragon". u choosing to call me/std obvious wolves makes me feel like ur saying that because u strategically have to and not because ur actually trying to hunt for the wolves lol

STD is outed because they counterclaimed me

before they CC'd I thought it was you/Penguin but I actually think Penguin's response to this whole fight has been uninformed, whereas yours has sorta been dancing around committing to 'Arete is a wolf' while trying to prop up STD in the counterclaim anyways

it is literally not possible for me and std to be teamed with each other and if u were actually hunting for the wolves then u would know this, but u are in anti-spew right now so it's probably not worth engaging with you

you were telling us earlier that you were great at theater

but really the person you have to convince is not me, I don't particularly expect anyone to listen to my legacy even though I am in the best position of everyone in the game to solve it

there's a difference btwn theater and deathtunneling someone who it would be strategically sub-optimal to deathtunnel. but ur right that i dont care about convincing u because u are in anti-spew regardless of if ur wolf or mafia and not being fully honest with your thoughts. im just bringing attention to how obviously fake your current view of the game is

I just want to make it 100 percent clear here that my read that SPF is STD's wolf partner is genuine and the her treatment of my slot ~never comes from town, when I flip Mafia you all should not go say 'well they were Mafia so maybe they were lying,' I will make fun of you in dead chat

[Arete Lastname]

Arete why does wolf!STD even CC you in that spot

because he's a wolf with SPF, and me claiming meant that SPF was probably going to be the yeet if no one CC'd me

and SPF would've had more endgame potential than him, once I flipped not-town and defused the dome there, and he was also more likely to be believed than her, because his interactions with Ydrasse are really objectively pretty terrible-looking

[staypositivefriend]

arete i think we can stop doing wolf theater now i think we've convinced everyone that we aren't partnered

[staypositivefriend]

arete i think we can stop doing wolf theater now i think we've convinced everyone that we aren't partnered

[PenguinPower]

like there's two pieces of evidence working against you here:

It makes no sense for mafia to bus yesterday at 5-3-2

and

it makes no sense for wolf to CC mafia and out themselves. he's just getting yeeted tomm even if he elims you today.

this is kinda where i'm at...just doesn't make sense to cc there even if spf is partner wolf.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no

if the partner is super deep there's no point to CC as wolf.

you only CC if its really likely you or your partner is the next train destination so you have to fire a CC off while you can before the lights start heading your way.

[Save The Dragons]

you are trying so hard and i'm just chillin'

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are trying so hard and i'm just chillin'

[Arete Lastname]

incidentally you can tell that read on STD's interactions was 100 percent fake because half my talking points were literally just arguments Achro used against me in G8 (v/v) and if I were town *or* a mafiahunting wolf I wouldn't have been treating this as outing

(the other half of the talking points are stronger but still not outing)

[staypositivefriend]

no

if the partner is super deep there's no point to CC as wolf.

you only CC if its really likely you or your partner is the next train destination so you have to fire a CC off while you can before the lights start heading your way.

yah this is true, if std is a wolf they could have just kept quiet and let arete hold their mafia claim and let me get killed instead. they had an easy mischop in front of them by not cc'ing, so i dont really see what incentive they would have to claim

[staypositivefriend]

incidentally you can tell that read on STD's interactions was 100 percent fake because half my talking points were literally just arguments Achro used against me in G8 (v/v) and if I were town *or* a mafiahunting wolf I wouldn't have been treating this as outing

(the other half of the talking points are stronger but still not outing)

lol that's kinda funny i didnt pick up on that

[Save The Dragons]

i wrote a song

it's called

Arete is a Wolf

Arete is a wolf
Arete has a lastname
Arete is a wolf
Yeet them from the game
Arete is a wolf
Arete is a liar
Arete is a wolf
Yeet their slot with fire!

[PenguinPower]

beautiful

[Save The Dragons]

ty

[staypositivefriend]

i wrote a song

it's called

Arete is a Wolf

Arete is a wolf
Arete has a lastname
Arete is a wolf
Yeet them from the game
Arete is a wolf
Arete is a liar
Arete is a wolf
Yeet their slot with fire!

i tried to respond to this post with fire emojis and it broke the entire website

banger tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm assuming Arete!wolf saw the writing on the wall, deciding to do a hail mary mafia fake claim to at least draw out a mafia, and he was hoping the mafia would continue to not claim cuz ydra didnt claim. They had nothing to lose since if they didn't claim, they would just get chopped.

Best case scenario the mafia don't CC and they get to live, worst case scenario they figure out a mafia player for the nk.

then STD stepped up like the fucking action hero he is and put Arete LastWoof in his place.

that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.

The other scenario would be;

Arete Mafia decided to hardbus Ydra!Partner for literally no good reason on Day Two

and

STD!Wolf randomly decided to CC a Mafia for ??? reasons when he could've just chilled and kept doing nothing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

absolute banger of a song

i'm ready to go to night.

VOTE: Arete