Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)

[Bellaphant]

I did some shit maths, we are closer to elo than we think because of the governor, korina and furtive probably aren't aligned. Beat still probably has their page 8 scum read on me.

[Nathann]

Voting me is dumb. I wouldn't be claiming vengeful as cult, period.

VOTE: Bella

Might as well go back to this, I think the diversion away from her at the end of the day is pretty telling.

Why not?

Enchant, do you think we should go outside of claims?

I don't want to go all game without sorting the Jacket/Nathan thing.

Prime Cultists' goal is to get eliminated, so that the Cult can recruit. So Jacket's claim of "I wouldn't claim Vengeful as Cult" is, uh, bad.

As long as you believe the Cult Leader isn't within the claims, you can just freeze the three of us out of the game. Since killing the Leader is the goal.

For the record, I don't think it's likely Jacket is a Cult Leader claiming Vengeful because the "not knowing who's CC'ing him" thing is much more risky once the Leader is claiming, he wasn't playing as a deepwolf/powerwolf, and he'd be betting the game on Town never eliminating the CC's. So, I'm fine with freezing us out.

[Nathann]

Hey guys, BBT and RH9 are both town, add that to Enchant and that's 3. 1 in Jacket/Nathann (prob Jacket), Korina Prime Cultist is my strongest read outside of that and I can kind of see Beat as CL.

This is about how I see the game right now. Which, surely it's not Scum!furtiveglance copying my reads in order to pocket me, when half the game thinks I'm a Cultist within the CC's, right? Right.

[Nathann]

Sorry for my absence, the game is just kind of... boring. In retrospect, I regret counterclaiming Vengeful, at least half the game wouldn't have been focused on that group then.

The only change in my reads recently is that Bellaphant seems Townie in the last few pages.

Does anyone mind if I just spend the Day sheeping BBT/RH9/Enchant?

[RH9]

Why not? Looks like their odds are better?

Who is this directed to?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Vote count 2.2

Titus (2)

: Korina, BlueBloodedToffee

Bellaphant (2)

: Beat, Jacket

Jacket (1)

: furtiveglance

furtiveglance (1)

: Enchant

Not voting (4)

: RH9, Bellaphant, Nathann, Titus

With 10 alive it takes 6 to eliminate

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-07-04 08:00:00)


@beat, I already answered this

Like I said Im waiting on the moderator to answer something.

[RH9]

TBH I still want to hear from Titus after her V/LA.

[Beat]

Vote count 2.2

Titus (2)

: Korina, BlueBloodedToffee

Bellaphant (2)

: Beat, Jacket

Jacket (1)

: furtiveglance

furtiveglance (1)

: Enchant

Not voting (4)

: RH9, Bellaphant, Nathann, Titus

With 10 alive it takes 6 to eliminate

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-07-04 08:00:00)


@beat, I already answered this

Like I said Im waiting on the moderator to answer something.

1. no you haven't
2. You probably shouldn't be confirming the mod correspondance and should just reply via pm

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Vote count 2.2

Titus (2)

: Korina, BlueBloodedToffee

Bellaphant (2)

: Beat, Jacket

Jacket (1)

: furtiveglance

furtiveglance (1)

: Enchant

Not voting (4)

: RH9, Bellaphant, Nathann, Titus

With 10 alive it takes 6 to eliminate

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-07-04 08:00:00)


@beat, I already answered this

Like I said Im waiting on the moderator to answer something.

1. no you haven't
2. You probably shouldn't be confirming the mod correspondance and should just reply via pm

I answered it in my previous votecount, publiclly, because it's unfair for only one player to have the information, I wasn't sure what the policy was about reply to something like you saying I hadn't responded so sorry about that

[RH9]

I see.
So Beat wanted to know if the Governor can force a no-lim and they can.
Though, I'm still a bit unsure why forcing a no-lim causes a ELO?

[Beat]

Setup information

This is the setup wiki page: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... y_Cultists, read it.

Possible alignments are

cult

and

town

. Town wins when the cult leader is eliminated and cult wins when they achieve parity with the town or nothing can prevent this from happening.

The full setup/roles are:

1 Cult Leader
2 Prime Cultists

1 D4 Governor
2 Vengeful townies
5 Vanilla townies

If a prime cultist dies the cult leader may recruit a new cultist during the night phase, if no prime cultists die, or if there is a no elimination, the night phase is skipped.
Recruited cultists will flip both their recruited cultist flip and their original role pm.

Full role PM's:

Spoiler: Vanilla townie

Welcome to Open 856: deputy cultists. You are a

vanilla townie

.

Abilities

You have no active abilities

Win condition

You win when the cult leader dies

Spoiler: Vengeful townie

Welcome to Open 856: deputy cultists. You are a

Vengeful townie

.

Abilities

Kill: When you are eliminated, you may target another player in the game to attempt to kill them.

Win condition

You win when the cult leader dies

Spoiler: D4 Governor

Welcome to Open 856: deputy cultists. You are a

Day 4 Governor

.

Abilities

Assuming you are alive during day 4, you are going to select this day elimination.

Win condition

You win when the cult leader dies

Spoiler: Cult leader

Welcome to Open 856: deputy cultists. You are a

Cult leader

, along with your partners, [Player Name] the Prime Cultist and [Player Name] the Prime Cultist.

Abilities

You may talk with your allies at any given phase here [redacted]
During night phase, which follows Prime Cultist death or no-elimination, you may attempt to recruit somebody to the Cult.

Win condition

You win when the Cult obtain parity or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Spoiler: Prime Cultist

Welcome to Open 856: deputy cultists. You are a

Prime Cultist

, along with your partners, [Player Name] the Cult Leader and [Player Name] the Prime Cultist.

Abilities

You may talk with your allies at any given phase here [redacted]

Win condition

You win when the Cult obtain parity or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Spoiler: Recruited Cultist

Hello [player name] you have been recruited to the cult and are now a

recruited Cultist

, along with your partner, [Player Name] the Cult Leader and [Player Name] the [role]

Abilities

You may talk with your allies at any given phase here [redacted]
You retain any abilities from your original role PM

Win condition

You win when the Cult obtain parity or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

"During night phase, which follows Prime Cultist death or no-elimination, you may attempt to recruit somebody to the Cult."

If we eliminate Prime Cultist D3 we lose

[Korina]

Cool so that means this game ends sooner.

[furtiveglance]

Hey guys, BBT and RH9 are both town, add that to Enchant and that's 3. 1 in Jacket/Nathann (prob Jacket), Korina Prime Cultist is my strongest read outside of that and I can kind of see Beat as CL.

This is about how I see the game right now. Which, surely it's not Scum!furtiveglance copying my reads in order to pocket me, when half the game thinks I'm a Cultist within the CC's, right? Right.

That would be so weird of me.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Titus has pretty much done nothing this entire game by the way.

We should probably do something about that.

[furtiveglance]

Why are we all panicking about the game ending d3, when we can just vote cult today?

I think we should sort Jacket/Nathann.

[furtiveglance]

Titus has pretty much done nothing this entire game by the way.

We should probably do something about that.

*something* like

*voting*

.......?

[furtiveglance]

I haven't seen a cultist flip yet...I really want one, I don't care if it's leader!

Anyone agree and want to vote Jacket with me? Nathann? I know you think they're prime but STILL.......

[Korina]

Ok you're just openly scumclaiming now, that's cool. I think we can kill titus today and furtive tomorrow tbh

[Nathann]

I haven't seen a cultist flip yet...I really want one, I don't care if it's leader!

Anyone agree and want to vote Jacket with me? Nathann? I know you think they're prime but STILL.......

I am voting anyone before Jacket. You do understand why killing a Prime is going directly against Town wincon, right?

[furtiveglance]

I haven't seen a cultist flip yet...I really want one, I don't care if it's leader!

Anyone agree and want to vote Jacket with me? Nathann? I know you think they're prime but STILL.......

I am voting anyone before Jacket. You do understand why killing a Prime is going directly against Town wincon, right?

They might be LEADER!

[furtiveglance]

Ok you're just openly scumclaiming now, that's cool. I think we can kill titus today and furtive tomorrow tbh

I'm from the future, is tbh considered a scumtell yet here?

[Enchant]

Actually i just thinked.

If you want to elim in vengeful claims, then i will accept it. Yeah. Like if you really do this and Prime flips then maybe i turn up converted and my winrate RAISES.
And if it's Leader then i win as town.

From this perspective yes, elimming in Vengefuls always benefiting.

[Korina]

So you’re fine with killing vengefuls because you might be converted, and therefore are playing towards a wincon you do not have

Enchant, please tell me you are being sarcastic

[Enchant]

So you’re fine with killing vengefuls because you might be converted, and therefore are playing towards a wincon you do not have

Enchant, please tell me you are being sarcastic

I Have buried myself under too many layers of irony.

But yes, i am sarcastic.

[Bellaphant]

Oh no, I could tell enchant was joking!