Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't imagine Malt faking his result. If he's wrong, he'll be dead tomorrow. That's not the sort of gambit a scum would attempt on Day 2.

[armlx]

And you're ignoring the mod. So I'm ignoring you.

This. Cretin needs to post in actual English and not be (as per the rules) a jackass.

[Empking]

Vote: Farside

Fixed

Why?
?

Because its silly to have a non-counted vote.

[hp [leaves]]

Lots of words that need to be written in ENGLISH

Cretin, Hp claimed COP.

HP then CLEARED Malt with his "COP" ability.

Malt then claimed he also was a cop-like and that HP was a lying bastard and that HP is a killing role, not a cop.

HP then said he wasn't a killing role.

End of story.

Yes, I claimed cop.

No, I didn't CLEAR malt. The only result I got was I failed the inspection.

Your case on me is LAME. cretin is right.

It is entirely possible that Malt got the check results wrong. It is entirely possible that Tar is fucking with us.

I am not lying. I'm told that I am Alfred Bester, Earthforce/Anti-Vorlon cop. I investigate people by the means of Psi-Cops.

I am a cop. I investigate people. I do not kill anyone by any means. If I could, there would be three (four even, considering anti-symmetries)kills last day.[/dice]

[armlx]

If I could, there would be three (four even, considering anti-symmetries)kills last day.

RB's, docs, NK immune people, double kills, etc say otherwise.

OR you are just lying about being anti-Vorlon and are actually straight up scum.

[cr3t1n]

so whos going 2 lynch malt if hp isnt mafier?
whos going 2 push that crap case?

ne1 who is voting hp becuz of malts result needs 2 explain y malt is moar trustworthy then hp
if u cant ur iether scum or dum

i want 2 voet 4 armlx becuz he looks lyk lazy scum

but

Cybele is fairly scummy, but I think I'll wait for him to drop another tell or at least reply. Kinetic seems to be normal, but I wouldn't rule him out as survivor.

he defended cybele hu was scum

mafiassk is scummy 2 n i saw these

He has a history of being replaced and lurking, and even admits to it in his wiki.

I'm a lurker. =D That's my playstyle and if you don't like it then I guess you don't. But that's how I play.

Clearly this devient needs to be lynched asap.

LURKER!=SCUM. Plus, what is the harm if he is replaced? As his meta shows, he lurks as both scum and town, making lurking a null tell.

Mana sounds good.

Unvote, vote MAna

claim please before you disappear again.

Unvote; Vote: MafiaSSK

WC or role?

race only

so i fink we shud pressure theinternet n mafiassk

vote: mafiassk

4 lurking

[veerus]

Say what you want about cr3t1n's spelling, but he pulls up some quality quotes.

If hp isn't scum, then Malt dies tomorrow. It's as simple as that.

FOS: empking
FOS: mafiassk

For doing some serious lurking (check their posts in isolation). I think cr3t1n posted more non-fluff, actual scum-hunting text in the last day than those two have posted all game.. combined.

[pacman281292]

@ Pacman, SSK, and cr3tin


My claim:

Another fact dawned upon me as I got my results. I'm now thinking that each of the mafia's faction WC's must have mentioned their anti-factions in them for them to get the idea of claiming them, so this logically means the mafia's win conditions do not require them to kill each other. (And if their mentioned WC's had anti-factions in them, this indeed puts a lot of doubt on the people who claimed the anti-races in the first place). Another hit against Mana_Ku is that I simply don't think that Tar would put a cop in a game without a drawback or restriction.

I am not a cop, I am gunsmith-like role. I got a guilty on [hp]who claimed cop, not vig. He even denies he has any vig powers.

I meant that cops do have guns, so your guilty in hp is not accurate.
It doesn't mean he is not guilty. So, if your case is just that, it's not enough strong.

Maybe it's my advanced age, but I'm unable to read cretin's posts.

I'm 15, and I also can't read his posts. So, it's not your age

[armlx]

so i fink we shud pressure theinternet n mafiassk

I fink u shud spek en narmul inglush.

Just saying.

And Veerus, SSK and emp are always like this.

[The Internet]

Cr3t1n, your logic is like your english: rotten. So it is scummy that I could not find much of a case against someone? I am a cautious voter, check my meta if you don't believe me. I defended SSK because I do not believe in lurker lynches. And it is scummy to answer a question, thereby feeding information to the town and cutting down confusion? Personally, I want to see who started the claim that Malt was cleared.

[cr3t1n]

u never talked about cybele or KoC again after that
if u were suspishus of him u shud hav sed moar

how do u fink we shud find out if mafiassk is scum?
y r u letting him lurk?

[The Internet]

u never talked about cybele or KoC again after that
if u were suspishus of him u shud hav sed moar

how do u fink we shud find out if mafiassk is scum?
y r u letting him lurk?

I honestly forgot the case against KoC, and was to occupied with the race claim/Kinetic's theory. I think that we can try and find if SSK is scum after we investigate more pressing matters, like malt, hp, and farside.

[armlx]

If there was a vig in this game, SSK would be dead last "night". If there is an active cop/info role, odds are SSK is a high profile target.

That's how dead weight like him is resolved. Eventually, it may even become a mod meta to not let him into games until he shows improvement.

[forbiddanlight]

ne1 who is voting hp becuz of malts result needs 2 explain y malt is moar trustworthy then hp

If hp isn't scum, then Malt dies tomorrow. It's as simple as that.

This.

If there was a vig in this game, SSK would be dead last "night". If there is an active cop/info role, odds are SSK is a high profile target.

That's how dead weight like him is resolved. Eventually, it may even become a mod meta to not let him into games until he shows improvement.

Nyeh, some people might not kill him and actually look for scummier targets. But, that's a route we don't want to go down.

[armlx]

Nyeh, some people might not kill him and actually look for scummier targets. But, that's a route we don't want to go down.

True, and I guess the faction thing might influence people to make the incorrect town play otherwise.

[forbiddanlight]

True, and I guess the faction thing might influence people to make the incorrect town play otherwise.

But, remember, D1 was a bit crazy anyway. There were more targets for a protown vig than just SSK.

[armlx]

True, and I guess the faction thing might influence people to make the incorrect town play otherwise.

But, remember, D1 was a bit crazy anyway. There were more targets for a protown vig than just SSK.

True.

[cr3t1n]

BUSDRIVER
OR
TARGET SWITCHER

Y RNT U FINKING ABOUT THEM?

U WANT 2 POSIBLY LYNCH

2

CLAIMED INVESTIGATERS BECUZ OF 1 RESULT?

WTF IS RONG WIF U PPL?!

is hp even scummy?

malt y did u target hp? r u suspishus of him? y

[armlx]

BUSDRIVER
OR
TARGET SWITCHER

Y RNT U FINKING ABOUT THEM?

Corner case.

[Tarhalindur]

"Bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!"
"I would advise against it. I see they trained you well back home."
"Well, they said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger."
"And?"
"I'm not repressed anymore!" - Marcus Cole and Lennier

Since he is still failing to post in a manner that my players consider legible after 3 players have noted that they have found his posts illegible and I explicitly warned him that there would be penalties if he did not post normally... cr3t1n is receiving an Official Warning for Jackassery...

... Or, rather, he would be if not for the fact that he already HAS an Official Warning (for Rule 15 violation). That AND his response to my 2 warnings to shape up (one in thread, one by PM) could easily be construed as an Insubordination (Rule 0) violation. Hmm. Players can't have more than 1 Official Warning... he's ignoring mod requests/requirements... out he goes, then! *picks up cr3t1n by the scruff of his neck and throws him out of the joint*

One forced replacement for cr3t1n, coming right up. He won't be playing in Tar games in the future - not under that account, at least. (If he posts in the thread again, he will be modkilled.) I'm also forcibly unvoting him as a courtesy to his replacement.

In addition, I am still searching for a replacement for populartajo, RandomGem, and farside22. (I have one offer, but I need to evaluate it carefully - the player in question is very inexperienced.) - Tar

The Twenty-Eighth Vote Count (aka the "The Coming of Shadows" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

VisMaior (0)
Empking (0)
malthusis (0)
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon) (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
armlx (0)
forbiddanlight (0)
populartajo (0)
Mana_Ku (0)
Natirasha (0)
veerus (0)
The Internet (1) - hp [leaves]
DrippingGoofball (0)
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer) (0)
pacman281292 (0)
RandomGem (0)
hp [leaves] (7) - malthusis, armlx, Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon), DrippingGoofball, forbiddanlight, Natirasha, veerus, Mana_Ku
farside22 (rep. Tovarish) (1) - Empking

Not Voting (8): VisMaior, MafiaSSK, populartajo, The Internet, cr3t1n, pacman281292, RandomGem, farside22

Votes required to lynch: 10

FoS Count:

VisMaior
Empking (1) - veerus
malthusis
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon)
MafiaSSK (1) - veerus
armlx
forbiddanlight
populartajo
Mana_Ku
Natirasha
veerus
The Internet
DrippingGoofball
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer)
pacman281292
RandomGem
hp [leaves]
farside22 (rep. Tovarish)

Current Deadline:

November 14, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

First Mod Deadline Review:

November 7, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

[hp [leaves]]

If we all think that Malt is cleared, then pop is definitely scum. Why not lynch a scum instead of someone non-town?

Wait, he is MIA. And can't counter-claim.

[hp [leaves]]

Narn (1 town, 1 scum, 1 non-town)

malt (gunsmith-like town role)
dybeck (confirmed non-town)
pop (left to be scum)

[hp [leaves]]

Also Kinetic came up with the idea that I cleared Malt.

It's not suspicious or anything. He is 100% AOL by my evidence. Just that his logic is null.

[The Internet]

Also Kinetic came up with the idea that I cleared Malt.

It's not suspicious or anything. He is 100% AOL by my evidence. Just that his logic is null.

Just to confirm, you "cleared" him based on play, not by using your cop ability. If yes, is the clearing dependent on Kinetic's theory.

[armlx]

I'm still not sold on even distributions within each race.

I'm still not sold on Malth being 100% cleared.

I'm still not sold on gunsmith necessarily being a town ability (Xyl's Smalltown).