Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over


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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:23 pm

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Bah. Go Narns :)
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:29 pm

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Bah, curse GMT+12
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:29 am

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My attempt to read Kinetic's mind gave no result.
hp, did you succeed?
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:13 am

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Just for reference, what was the post # that [hp] leaves claimed in?
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:48 am

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My attempt to read Malthusis' mind also gave me no result.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:23 am

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Bah. Go Vorlon, don't give a damn about Minbari to be honest.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:53 am

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Vote: The Internet


With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.

Centauri consists of:

RandomGem(town as his role PM is fully revealed)
The Internet(scummy scum scum scum)
farside(Anti-vorlon, just like me!)
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:58 am

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Also, analyzing B5:

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Two of the four unclaimed players are Survivors. One is scum and the other is town. I like how survivors just went and claimed B5.
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:05 am

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Malthusis, here is the post in which hp claimed.
hp wrote:Ok I think I have to give you a reason to keep me alive for this day.

I'm Alfred Bester. EarthForce/Anti-Vorlon Psi-Cop. Every night I can read someone's mind, learning his/her race and faction.

I can be inspecting people at night while the Army of Light cop (if there is one) stays hidden.

I'm more dependable and trustful than Nat and his constantly changing ability.

If you don't believe me, Nat is the logical choice to lynch without risking your cop. If he's indeed a survivor, I'll start a wagon on myself in Day 2.

If you believe me, I suggest waiting until Kinetic comes up with the second part of his BIG plan.
You can look at it at page 31 post 757.

At this moment I see Farside as scummier. However, there has been the possibility that there are 6 anti-vorlons/shadows in total. If so, it would be nice if the last anti-shadow would show himself. Otherwise, this could result in a mislynch. And I think the last anti-shadow would like to lynch the Shadow Operatives or Neutral Survivor more than an anti-Vorlon.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:28 am

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With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.
Where did this formula come from? Not that I disagree per se.

Love how neither of you could get a result. Fisheh.
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:39 am

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Kinetic wrote:Alright, among the races THERE ARE

Narn: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town
Minbari: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town
Centauri: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town
B5: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town
EF: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town
Unaligned: One AOL, One Scum, One Non-Town

What we know, what we suspect, and what that leaves us:

Narn: No claims, any of the three can be any of the three
Minbari: Nat claims non-town, Scum must be either Kinetic or Darox (i.e. DAROX IS SCUM)
Centauri: Farside "claims" non-town, RG proven AOL, leaves TheInternet as either the TRUE non-town, or scum. I actually think Theinternet is more likely scum.
B5: ManaKu Claimed non-town, veerus, VisMajor, Forbiddenlight and empking, of these up to TWO could be scum
EF: hp claims non-town, KOC could be in this group. If he is and not scum then either pacman or DGB is SCUM
Unaligned: No claims, all or none could be scum. If KoC is of this faction and not scum, then one of them is scum.

I'll give my personal list asap.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:44 am

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Mana_Ku wrote:At this moment I see Farside as scummier. However, there has been the possibility that there are 6 anti-vorlons/shadows in total. If so, it would be nice if the last anti-shadow would show himself. Otherwise, this could result in a mislynch. And I think the last anti-shadow would like to lynch the Shadow Operatives or Neutral Survivor more than an anti-Vorlon.
Natirasha, as shown by Tar at the list of the dead players, it was shown that Dybeck was a Member :S. Does your role PM say that you are a Member?
If you think farside is scummier than The Internet, then I'll have to disagree with you. It seems there is a symmetry between Anti-scum groups. You and me are cops. Nat and farside are the jacks of all trades. And Dybeck and unknown are vanillas.

If he claimed before you, then you're far more suspicious than him.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:56 am

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I'm still wary of assuming even distributions as such.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:57 am

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@hp
See the quote of mine that you posted. First of all it says: 'At this moment'. This is easily changed if the last anti-Shadow claims, as shown in that quote. I also mentioned 6 anti-vorlons/shadows in total, which means that I counted Farside as possible anti-Vorlon. Then I also ask Natirasha if his role is the same as Dybeck's. If not, then it seems likely that there's a third anti-shadow player which makes Farside claims more justafied.
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:03 am

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hp [leaves] wrote:Also, analyzing B5:

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Two of the four unclaimed players are Survivors. One is scum and the other is town. I like how survivors just went and claimed B5.
Exactly why I have decided not to vote for B5 right now. ^^

It is also why you won't either. Do we need to lynch you?
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:11 am

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hp [leaves] wrote:
Mana_Ku wrote:At this moment I see Farside as scummier. However, there has been the possibility that there are 6 anti-vorlons/shadows in total. If so, it would be nice if the last anti-shadow would show himself. Otherwise, this could result in a mislynch. And I think the last anti-shadow would like to lynch the Shadow Operatives or Neutral Survivor more than an anti-Vorlon.
Natirasha, as shown by Tar at the list of the dead players, it was shown that Dybeck was a Member :S. Does your role PM say that you are a Member?
If you think farside is scummier than The Internet, then I'll have to disagree with you. It seems there is a symmetry between Anti-scum groups. You and me are cops. Nat and farside are the jacks of all trades. And Dybeck and unknown are vanillas.

If he claimed before you, then you're far more suspicious than him.
The forced symmetry has been bugging me. I, sort of, like it, but it also doesn't exactly fit. Especially since both Anti-Vorlons claimed after their symmetric Anti-Shadow partner... Curious?
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:12 am

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Kinetic wrote:
hp [leaves] wrote:Also, analyzing B5:

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Two of the four unclaimed players are Survivors. One is scum and the other is town. I like how survivors just went and claimed B5.
Exactly why I have decided not to vote for B5 right now. ^^

It is also why you won't either. Do we need to lynch you?
No, that's not right. What I mean is, I am curious about Mana Ku and Farsides claims since they came after the other claims and claim symmetry.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:16 am

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Kinetic wrote:
Kinetic wrote:
hp [leaves] wrote:Also, analyzing B5:

Mana_ku (anti-shadow)
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Two of the four unclaimed players are Survivors. One is scum and the other is town. I like how survivors just went and claimed B5.
Exactly why I have decided not to vote for B5 right now. ^^

It is also why you won't either. Do we need to lynch you?
No, that's not right. What I mean is, I am curious about Mana Ku and Farsides claims since they came after the other claims and claim symmetry.
Well this race talk is just confusing. I'm going to ask Tar to replace me because this doesn't see like Mafia this is a race war I have no idea what any of it means.

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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:34 am

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I love how the town are forced to keep the non-towns alive. If you lynch the anti-scums, then the game goes from a scumhunt to a racehunt.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:36 am

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hp [leaves] wrote:I love how the town are forced to keep the non-towns alive. If you lynch the anti-scums, then the game goes from a scumhunt to a racehunt.
We're not forced to keep you alive. Far from it. We just happen not to gain anything from killing you. If you continue to be a distraction we will gain something though, so maybe you should understand that.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:46 am

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hp [leaves] wrote:
Vote: The Internet


With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.
Care to explain?
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:46 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
hp [leaves] wrote:
Vote: The Internet


With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.
Care to explain?
He won't vote for someone claiming to be his partner.
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:50 am

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b]Vote: Farside[/b]

I can see a scum motive for false claiming but not a town motive.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am

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Kinetic wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
hp [leaves] wrote:
Vote: The Internet


With the "1 non-town,1 mafia,1 town" components of each faction, it is revealed that The Internet is totally scum.
Care to explain?
He won't vote for someone claiming to be his partner.
Who? And who claimed to be his partner? He should vote for his partner?

This game confuses me, but I'm making cognitive inroads, if slowly.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am

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@ Empking: BOLD your vote.
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