Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[forbiddanlight]

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative

/Minbari Godfather

, lynched Day 1

Any ideas what to make of this? Because I'm looking intently at the other Minbari right now.

[Natirasha]

Damn it. Need to kill some Shadows.

Oh, hey, I'm the Bus Driver today.

So, I'm going to go out on a large whim here and do some speculating.

Cult of Pacifism-Cult that made people survivors. Assuming such, I'd say we have at most one CoP member left. We kill them and it's simply a race to see who we kill first--shadows, or vorlons.

On another note,

Vote: Farside

. Obviously lied about win condition, Dybeck was the other anti-vorlon.

[Natirasha]

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative

/Minbari Godfather

, lynched Day 1

Any ideas what to make of this? Because I'm looking intently at the other Minbari right now.

Think of it "Vorlon Operative/Minbari" as win conditions and "Godfather" as role.

[veerus]

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative

/Minbari Godfather

, lynched Day 1

Any ideas what to make of this? Because I'm looking intently at the other Minbari right now.

He's probably a Vorlon Operative Godfather who also happens to be a Minbari. I doubt all Minbari are scum.. that would be too easy.

Anyway... I remember Kinetic saying sometime in the last 24 hours that he did not believe that KOC was scum based on the latest data at the time. How does the fact that KOC

is

scum change that theory?

[forbiddanlight]

On another note, Vote: Farside. Obviously lied about win condition, Dybeck was the other anti-vorlon.

Sorry, where was this? I don't remember it but if you can cite it, I would have to agree with LAL.

[Kinetic]

Damn it. Need to kill some Shadows.

Oh, hey, I'm the Bus Driver today.

So, I'm going to go out on a large whim here and do some speculating.

Cult of Pacifism-Cult that made people survivors. Assuming such, I'd say we have at most one CoP member left. We kill them and it's simply a race to see who we kill first--shadows, or vorlons.

On another note,

Vote: Farside

. Obviously lied about win condition, Dybeck was the other anti-vorlon.

Not exactly, if he had claimed Narn Anti-Vorlon, then maybe, but he didn't. I did speculate there could be up to three.

Survivor is a RACIAL wincondition.

motherfucker.

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative

/Minbari Godfather

, lynched Day 1

Any ideas what to make of this? Because I'm looking intently at the other Minbari right now.

As the main proponant for the race claim, who also happens to be Minbari, do you honestly think I would do this if Minbari was a scum faction? It makes no sense. Read your own role pm.

I think its easier to understand it as Minbari/Vorlon Operative Godfather. Which is a Huge hit Day one.

I'm going to put this new information into my theory and see what it spits out.

[veerus]

Oh, hey, I'm the Bus Driver today.

Is that today's ability that Tar sent you?

[forbiddanlight]

As the main proponant for the race claim, who also happens to be Minbari, do you honestly think I would do this if Minbari was a scum faction? It makes no sense. Read your own role pm.

Just a weird way to phrase it to me. There was also the Narn leader person.

Oh, Mana_Ku and hp[leaves], you obviously had views. What did you see?

[Kinetic]

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative

/Minbari Godfather

, lynched Day 1

Any ideas what to make of this? Because I'm looking intently at the other Minbari right now.

He's probably a Vorlon Operative Godfather who also happens to be a Minbari. I doubt all Minbari are scum.. that would be too easy.

Anyway... I remember Kinetic saying sometime in the last 24 hours that he did not believe that KOC was scum based on the latest data at the time. How does the fact that KOC

is

scum change that theory?

I have no idea yet. Plus, I thought it was still possible or I wouldn't have helped push the lynch, but I didn't think it was probable.

Either way, I've got to do a lot of calculations before I have any idea what exactly is going on.

This game seems to be a bigger beast then I imagined.

[forbiddanlight]

This game seems to be a bigger beast then I imagined.

It's a tar game. What part of that did you miss .

If I had sig space I'd sig this. - Tar

[veerus]

Also, it appears Darox lied about his race.. tough situation since he had no race (in the sense that most of us do). How does that affect the latest working theory?

[Natirasha]

Oh, hey, I'm the Bus Driver today.

Is that today's ability that Tar sent you?

Yes

[Kinetic]

Also, it appears Darox lied about his race.. tough situation since he had no race (in the sense that most of us do). How does that affect the latest working theory?

I just realized that!!!!!

That is PERFECT! That means my original theory STILL HOLDS WATER! There are only 3 Minbari then.

Maybe, I don't know, the way survivor mechanics are, there is really no way to guess where the survivors are (good thing) and there can be up to two other survivors that I can think of.

We'll have to play this one by ear...

Either way it makes things very odd is what it makes it.

[Natirasha]

*betting one B5 survivor*

[armlx]

Someone else who has a better understanding of the speculative math should lay out whats going on.

[Kinetic]

Let's see what Mana Ku and HP come back with and see where to go from there.

[Tarhalindur]

Side note: All dead player factions will be listed in the format ALIGNMENT FACTION, RACIAL FACTION. - Tar

[Kinetic]

Ah fuck. I think I know moar. lol

[Kinetic]

Wait, so Minbari Godfather was a role?

Odd

[veerus]

Oh, hey, I'm the Bus Driver today.

Is that today's ability that Tar sent you?

Yes

wtf..... what does that do?

[veerus]

Knight of Cydonia, Vorlon Operative/Minbari Godfather, lynched Day 1
Dybeck, Narn Bat Squad Leader, Anti-Vorlon/Narn Member, throttled Day 1
Darox, Lorien, Cult of Pacifism Leader/Neutral Survivor, neck snapped Day 1

I think you're misreading Tar's note... or rather he's doing some creative omitting.

The factions are listed in the alignment/race/ROLE format.

So the three members' alignments are "vorlon operative", "anti-vorlon" and "cult (leader)".

The races are Minbari, Narn, Neutral

Roles: Godfather, Member (aka relative vanilla), Survivor

This also fills in the race blank for the other 3 (now 2) "survivor" members in Kinetic's earlier diagram.

Of course this presents a difficult dillema. We have 2 people who lied about their race which, no doubt, puts a major wrench in Kinetic's theory of numbers. If they re-claim, they paint a big target on their heads. If they don't, Kinetic's theory can never be perfect and thus will have to be, for all intents and purposes, discounted or at least taken with a grain of salt. Catch-22...

[Kinetic]

Of course this presents a difficult dillema. We have 2 people who lied about their race which, no doubt, puts a major wrench in Kinetic's theory of numbers. If they re-claim, they paint a big target on their heads. If they don't, Kinetic's theory can never be perfect and thus will have to be, for all intents and purposes, discounted or at least taken with a grain of salt. Catch-22...

It's not that bad, not yet.

What it does do is keep it from being perfect. However don't throw the baby out with the bath water. At this point we'll have to pick and choose where it can and will apply. There are some instances where it is obvious that it will be difficult to apply, and some where it is straight forward.

Figuring out those instances may be a little difficult, but not egregiously so, and the benefits will be helpful.

[armlx]

Wrong veerus. We can also narrow down who would be lying according to said theory, and work from there under the assumption someone is lying and as town would have no reason to do so.

[Kinetic]

I'm very curious to hear from everyone:

Who do you think is more scummy, Farside or Theinternet?

[armlx]

Who do you think is more scummy, Farside or Theinternet?

TheInternet is more likely to be scum due to Farside being semi-confirmed non-town on symmetry, but Farside has been acting more anti-town.