Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[veerus]

unvote

vote: The Internet

Time to put Kinetic's theory to the test.. if he's right on this, the rest of his theories will gain more weight. Otherwise we'll know early enough not to rely on his theories too heavily.

[Mana_Ku]

B5:
Veerus
Forbiddanlight
Empking
Mana_Ku
VisMajor

Narn:
Dybeck
Malthusis
Farside
populartajo

LoUW:
armlx
cr3t1n
MafiaSSK

Earthforce:
pacman281292
hp [leaves]
DrippingGoofball

Centauri:
RandomGem
The Internet

Minbari:
Natirasha
Darox
Kinetic

Again without KoC's claim.

And newly added: the WC of the races according to Kinetic.
Minbari: Kill Earthforce and Narn, they are hunted by Babylon 5 and Unaligned Worlds
Earthforce: Kill unaligned and Centauri, are hunted by Babylon 5 and Minbari
Babylon 5: Kill Earthforce and Minbari, are hunted by unaligned and Narn
Centauri: Kill unaligned and Narn, are huned by Narn and Earthforce
Narn: Kill Centauri and B5, are hunted by Minbari and Centauri
Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari, are hunted by Centauri and Earth force

The only ones which don't fit are these WC:
Earthforce need to kill LoUW (3) and Centauri (2)
LoUW need to kill B5 (5) and Minbari (3).
B5 need to kill Earthforce (3) and Minbari (3)

Or am I wrong here?

[Kinetic]

Yes, those are actually the old WCs which dybeck (Narn) told me I had wrong. I redid my math and realized he was right. The correct WCs are actually:

Minbari Narn Earthforce
Babylon 5 Minbari Earthforce
Centauri Unaligned Narn
Unaligned Centauri B5
Narn Minbari Unaligned
EF B5 Centauri

Of these, B5, Minbari, Centauri and Unaligned have been absolutely confirmed. I'm fairly positive Narn is also correct as Dybeck immediately became extremely hostile after I posted these new ones, but no one has 'officially' confirmed either EF or Narn yet.

[Kinetic]

Of which, the only ones wrong at this point are

Babylon 5 (currently 3 Minbari, 3 EF)
And Narn (currently 3 Minbari, 3 Unaligned)

With one player not race claiming. That being KoC.

Thus, if he is Minbari, then everything fits perfectly at 7.

[cr3t1n]

i fink thees r the biggest wagons
Knight of Cydonia (4) - pacman281292, Natirasha, armlx, dybeck
Natirasha (2) - farside22, malthusis
The Internet (3) - Kinetic, fobiddanlight, veerus
hp [leaves] (2) - Darox, Empking

the dedline is 2day n we need 12 voets to lynch

unvoet

i will voet 4 Koc or theinternet
i want 2 vote KoC becuz hes not postin here

kinetic, r u only voeting him becuz of ur theory?

Time to put Kinetic's theory to the test.. if he's right on this, the rest of his theories will gain more weight. Otherwise we'll know early enough not to rely on his theories too heavily.

y r u voetin theinternet if u fink kinetics theeory is rong
wud u voet for KoC?

Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari

this is rong
its centauri n babylon 5

[Kinetic]

i fink thees r the biggest wagons
Knight of Cydonia (4) - pacman281292, Natirasha, armlx, dybeck
Natirasha (2) - farside22, malthusis
The Internet (3) - Kinetic, fobiddanlight, veerus
hp [leaves] (2) - Darox, Empking

the dedline is 2day n we need 12 voets to lynch

unvoet

i will voet 4 Koc or theinternet
i want 2 vote KoC becuz hes not postin here

kinetic, r u only voeting him becuz of ur theory?

Not the only reason, no, but is it the primary reason, yes, and also the reason which pushes me more toward him than KoC.

Like I said, I'm disgusted by KoC's absence. It's making me think he's more likely scum, but I'm so close to positive that at the worst Theinternet is anti-town. I agree, the claimed non-towns at this point are not really a big target, but an unclaimed one is just as dangerous as scum, and if I hit an unclaimed non-town instead of scum, I won't feel bad about it at all.

Plus, Theinternet's play has been curious from the beginning and his response to my vote was, quite simply, the scummiest thing I've seen this game.

Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari

this is rong
its centauri n babylon 5

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Beat ya to it .

[Mana_Ku]

Kinetic just mentioned that already. I took the wrong one. And just saw that Kinetic beated me as well with this .

Unvote

If I look at cr3t1n's post, it seems that I have two options left KoC or The Internet.
I'll go for

Vote KoC

Cybele's play was bad.
But The Internet needs to come in as well and show us if he's the wrong lynch or not. However, the same goes for KoC.

[cr3t1n]

i red all of theinternets posts
he didnt look very scummy 2 me exept 4 this

Well, I guess all I can say in my defense is don't outguess the mod, and this is a tar game. I'd also like to raise the theory that all of the anti-x are actually members of one of the mafias using safeclaims. Just a possibility, remember there are 3 of them and 3 of each mafia.

i want theinternet 2 explayn why he sed 3 mafier
if he cant im voeting him

otherwise im voeting 4 KoC
we shud lynch him if he keeps lurking 2morow
mafiassk as well

[dybeck]

Yes, those are actually the old WCs which dybeck (Narn) told me I had wrong. I redid my math and realized he was right. The correct WCs are actually:

Minbari Narn Earthforce
Babylon 5 Minbari Earthforce
Centauri Unaligned Narn
Unaligned Centauri B5
Narn Minbari Unaligned
EF B5 Centauri

Your Narn win condition is wrong. Farside22 will tell you what it really is. Otherwise, I suspect he's lying about his raceclaim.

[Kinetic]

unvote;vote:KoC

If you're telling the truth dybeck...

[Kinetic]

Dybeck, if farside doesn't post before deadline, I'm going to have to reveal what I believe is your secret. This is for the good of the town as I've realized my thwory is slightly wrong. I'll need to correct it.

At this point, The Internet is not off the hook (he's still made some scummy moves), but my theory doesn't 100% guarantee he's scum either.

I need some sleep and to think about exactly what needs to be done. Suffice to say, I was afraid of this, and I'm glad my theory can still adapt. I'm pretty sure I've figure it all out now (and ironically, this makes my idea fit perfectly with what I originally though), and yea, I'm tired.

[Darox]

It's actually kind of sad.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Sorry for the lack of posting - college, etc.
Internet - how do you know 3 scum?

[pacman281292]

B5:
Veerus
Forbiddanlight
Empking
Mana_Ku
VisMajor

Narn:
Dybeck
Malthusis
Farside
populartajo

LoUW:
armlx
cr3t1n
MafiaSSK

Earthforce:
pacman281292
hp [leaves]
DrippingGoofball

Centauri:
RandomGem
The Internet

Minbari:
Natirasha
Darox
Kinetic

Again without KoC's claim.

And newly added: the WC of the races according to Kinetic.
Minbari: Kill Earthforce and Narn, they are hunted by Babylon 5 and Unaligned Worlds
Earthforce: Kill unaligned and Centauri, are hunted by Babylon 5 and Minbari
Babylon 5: Kill Earthforce and Minbari, are hunted by unaligned and Narn
Centauri: Kill unaligned and Narn, are huned by Narn and Earthforce
Narn: Kill Centauri and B5, are hunted by Minbari and Centauri
Unaligned: Kill B5 and Minbari, are hunted by Centauri and Earth force

The only ones which don't fit are these WC:
Earthforce need to kill LoUW (3) and Centauri (2)
LoUW need to kill B5 (5) and Minbari (3).
B5 need to kill Earthforce (3) and Minbari (3)

Or am I wrong here?

I'm bored, so I'll give you a hint.
Earthforce looks like opposite; actually, we need to kill B5 and Minbari. Not the opposite.
Sorry, I know that this totally screws all, but w/e. That's the truth.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Also: why does absence make me scum? You try writing 4 papers, for four different subjects, all 10k+ words, as well as normal lectures, a part-time job, and still finding time for Mafia.

[pacman281292]

OH CRAP OH CRAP OH CRAP I JUST REALIZED THAT DL IS TODAY?!

WC guess in accord to Kinetic, cr3t1n and pacman:
(underlined=confirmed by claim)
Minbari: Kill Unaligned and Earthforce, are hunted by B5 and

Earthforce

Earthforce: Kill

B5

and

Minbari

, are hunted by Narn and Minbari
Babylon 5: Kill Centauri and Minbari, are hunted by Earthforce and Unaligned
Centauri: Kill

unaligned

and

Narn

, are hunted by B5 and Narn
Narn: Kill Earthforce and Narn, are hunted by Minbari and

Centauri

Unaligned: Kill

Centauri

and

B5

, are hunted by Minbari and

Centauri

[pacman281292]

oops... i forgot to underline some ones on the "hunted by", but that's the idea.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Well, we may as well test Kinetic's theory.

Vote: The Internet

[forbiddanlight]

We also need a race claim from you, KoC.

[The Internet]

Sorry for the lack of posting - college, etc.
Internet - how do you know 3 scum?

In Kinetics theory.

[forbiddanlight]

In Kinetics theory.

Can you cite this? I don't remember it.

[armlx]

I can confirm the LoUW win con.

Minbari: Kill Unaligned and Earthforce, are hunted by B5 and Earthforce
Earthforce: Kill B5 and Minbari, are hunted by Narn and Minbari
Babylon 5: Kill Centauri and Minbari, are hunted by Earthforce and Unaligned
Centauri: Kill unaligned and Narn, are hunted by B5 and Narn
Narn: Kill Earthforce and Narn, are hunted by Minbari and Centauri
Unaligned: Kill Centauri and B5, are hunted by Minbari and Centauri

This can't be right, as the Minbari and Centauri WC's would be exactly the same, and you have the Narn committing suicide.

[Mana_Ku]

I'm bothered that KoC knows about Kinetic's plan, but doesn't claim his race.
Also KoC, have you read Cybele's posts?

[armlx]

I'm bothered that KoC knows about Kinetic's plan, but doesn't claim his race.

This.

[VisMaior]

Hi!

Kinetics theory has too many assumtions for my taste. Where do you take your numbers? Outguessing the mod are you? That is often counterproductive.