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Carcalilly She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I used to play a lot like that actually. I'm pro thought-puking in the thread, as long as you can put up with me questioning what the hell your overall stance is whenever you forget a tldr. :pIn post 62, Meuh wrote: Last sentence is accurate
I think transparency is key, I throw out a lot of ideas that cross my mind, and sometimes some posts will point towards one thing and some will point towards another, and I'll mention both
I'm not interested in cutting out parts of my thought process, it's both less productive and less transparent, lose-lose for our productivity in solving and for everyone to be able to sort me
Overall I'd say Scorpious' tone overall still makes me lean scum on them, but the specific interaction I pointed out is something I do still find town indicative
Like you didn't forget here. Much much better imoMeuh wrote: Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forward
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignment"don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells-
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When making an alt you must state your main in the registrationIn post 72, Scorpious wrote:
Just look in the forum. I think there is a spot that you must declare who your main is.In post 69, Crescent wrote:New players tend to see things as very black and white like above.. But Vanya specifically said he's an alt.
Is playing on an alt common practice here?
I’m always too lazy, or don’t care enough.
And yes.. it’s super common. I’m not a fan.
I have…a few, myself.<Embrace The Void>
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You don’t even have to do that unless the game mod mandates itIn post 74, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
As far as I know you only have to declare you alt to the mods upon signup.In post 72, Scorpious wrote:
Just look in the forum. I think there is a spot that you must declare who your main is.In post 69, Crescent wrote:New players tend to see things as very black and white like above.. But Vanya specifically said he's an alt.
Is playing on an alt common practice here?
I’m always too lazy, or don’t care enough.
And yes.. it’s super common. I’m not a fan.
However, listmods have access to the logs of which alts go to which main accounts<Embrace The Void>
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Then how about I flip a very biased coin?In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Quick reminder that provable randomness not allowedIn post 49, Carcalilly wrote:
Honestly, geraintm and unclevanya are easily tied for that title. I'd be down to nuke the scorpious wagon for one of those. I'll even flip a coin.In post 43, Crescent wrote:The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.
pedit well you took the words right outta my mouth lmfao
VOTE: geraintm
Don't feel particularly bad about their posts, but I can at least resonate with vanya for post 60 and post 63"don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells-
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I've never actually played mafia with anyone on an alt before.
Anti-town play happens from town, unfortunately. I've had my moments of it.
Vanya's speaking in absolutes as an experienced player strikes me as the kind of player who's either a stubborn town who thinks this is a non-issue or opportunistic scum who struck really quickly. It's a matter of figuring out which.
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its a shame, you'd be my top tr if it wasn't for this!In post 37, Crescent wrote: Also... I'm a kitty. Meow."don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells-
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Can you elaborate on this point?In post 66, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Based on expecting certain player reactions.-
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Meow.In post 81, Carcalilly wrote:
its a shame, you'd be my top tr if it wasn't for this!In post 37, Crescent wrote: Also... I'm a kitty. Meow.-
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In post 82, Meuh wrote:
Can you elaborate on this point?In post 66, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Based on expecting certain player reactions.
To me, something is is only pro or anti town if someone reads it as such. This is his personal opinion, and he is acting like some mafia matra should be a basis for how the game proceeds. It seems like he is setting up some false basis on how to target players in future posts.Uncle Vanya wrote: How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.-
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good news- I don't think it's alignment indicativeIn post 81, Carcalilly wrote:
its a shame, you'd be my top tr if it wasn't for this!In post 37, Crescent wrote: Also... I'm a kitty. Meow.
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In post 15, Dwlee99 wrote:I wish I actually got anything about your alignment from this little stint
Okay yeah, that makes senseIn post 84, MonkeyMan576 wrote:In post 82, Meuh wrote:
Can you elaborate on this point?In post 66, MonkeyMan576 wrote:Based on expecting certain player reactions.
To me, something is is only pro or anti town if someone reads it as such. This is his personal opinion, and he is acting like some mafia matra should be a basis for how the game proceeds. It seems like he is setting up some false basis on how to target players in future posts.Uncle Vanya wrote: How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.-
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...and why do you resonate with Vanya?In post 79, Carcalilly wrote:
Then how about I flip a very biased coin?In post 68, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Quick reminder that provable randomness not allowedIn post 49, Carcalilly wrote:
Honestly, geraintm and unclevanya are easily tied for that title. I'd be down to nuke the scorpious wagon for one of those. I'll even flip a coin.In post 43, Crescent wrote:The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.
pedit well you took the words right outta my mouth lmfao
VOTE: geraintm
Don't feel particularly bad about their posts, but I can at least resonate with vanya for post 60 and post 63
I see those posts as pretty scummy, what makes them town indicative for you?-
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In post 60, Uncle Vanya wrote:
How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.In post 58, Meuh wrote:
Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forwardIn post 43, Crescent wrote:The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignmentAmong Us lobby vibes
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It depends on the kind of player he is. Some players stubbornly cling to their meta and don't really care about anyone challenging it. In the most recent game I hosted, two town players had roles that conflicted with each other night 1, and one of them spent the entire game, which ended day 5, calling the other scum because he was seeing things too much in "black and white".
MM's post is very on point though about the "opportunistic scum" angle that I pointed out could be in play earlier... I didn't elaborate, and he did, and I like that from him.-
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Explain?In post 88, Roden wrote:In post 60, Uncle Vanya wrote:
How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.In post 58, Meuh wrote:
Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forwardIn post 43, Crescent wrote:The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignmentAmong Us lobby vibes
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I think punctuality is productive, especially in spaces that are kinda fluffy. much needed contrast.In post 87, Meuh wrote: ...and why do you resonate with Vanya?
I see those posts as pretty scummy, what makes them town indicative for you?
I also think its funny that people will blow up their motives for them.In post 84, MonkeyMan576 wrote: To me, something is is only pro or anti town if someone reads it as such. This is his personal opinion, and he is acting like some mafia matra should be a basis for how the game proceeds. It seems like he is setting up some false basis on how to target players in future posts."don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells-
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Yeah, both Vanya's vote and the response to being questioned on it very much feels like opportunistic scumIn post 89, Crescent wrote:It depends on the kind of player he is. Some players stubbornly cling to their meta and don't really care about anyone challenging it. In the most recent game I hosted, two town players had roles that conflicted with each other night 1, and one of them spent the entire game, which ended day 5, calling the other scum because he was seeing things too much in "black and white".
MM's post is very on point though about the "opportunistic scum" angle that I pointed out could be in play earlier... I didn't elaborate, and he did, and I like that from him.
You make a fair point about the way different people view the game, Vanya could hold those views as a townie, not unrealistic; people are stubborn.
What does bother me is the fact that Vanya's view of self-voting lead to the immediate response of voting for Scorpious, not actual reasoning as to why Scorpious is scum, just the link from the self-vote -> voting Scorpious which is off-putting
It fulfills scum agenda very well and seems like the sort of vote a mafia player would like to cast early; who can be suspicious of them for voting on someone who's already self-voting?
Don't like it
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89 92Carcalilly wrote: I also think its funny that people will blow up their motives for them.
I will add these to the gallery.
maybe I'm dumb and can't really see that much in two short sentences. my gut is softly telling me someone is piggybacking off this for hunting creds. I'll get back to you if I ever pinpoint who."don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells-
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Flat responses and a blank "Why." just took me back to it since it was the most basic scum tell in that game.In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Explain?In post 88, Roden wrote:In post 60, Uncle Vanya wrote:
How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.In post 58, Meuh wrote:
Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forwardIn post 43, Crescent wrote:The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignmentAmong Us lobby vibes
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Voting someone for anti-town play isn't voting someone and calling them scum, though. I'm not sure it really means anything so early in a game.In post 92, Meuh wrote:
Yeah, both Vanya's vote and the response to being questioned on it very much feels like opportunistic scumIn post 89, Crescent wrote:It depends on the kind of player he is. Some players stubbornly cling to their meta and don't really care about anyone challenging it. In the most recent game I hosted, two town players had roles that conflicted with each other night 1, and one of them spent the entire game, which ended day 5, calling the other scum because he was seeing things too much in "black and white".
MM's post is very on point though about the "opportunistic scum" angle that I pointed out could be in play earlier... I didn't elaborate, and he did, and I like that from him.
You make a fair point about the way different people view the game, Vanya could hold those views as a townie, not unrealistic; people are stubborn.
What does bother me is the fact that Vanya's view of self-voting lead to the immediate response of voting for Scorpious, not actual reasoning as to why Scorpious is scum, just the link from the self-vote -> voting Scorpious which is off-putting
It fulfills scum agenda very well and seems like the sort of vote a mafia player would like to cast early; who can be suspicious of them for voting on someone who's already self-voting?
Don't like it
VOTE: Vanya
The vote does feel a *little* worse to me in hindsight by his reaction, as his vote felt like a more jokey potential town perspective than a super serious one, but I get more "stubborn" vibes than anything out of his response to being prodded over it.. He comes off as believing what he's saying shouldn't be an issue.
The most curious thing I find out of all of it is.. His vote is still there.
Ok so... Question for Uncle Vanya.
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Maybe they are just scumhunting?In post 93, Carcalilly wrote:
89 92Carcalilly wrote: I also think its funny that people will blow up their motives for them.
I will add these to the gallery.
maybe I'm dumb and can't really see that much in two short sentences. my gut is softly telling me someone is piggybacking off this for hunting creds. I'll get back to you if I ever pinpoint who.-
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While that's true, some things rub me off as forced. Y'all spew "stubborn is subjective!", then two lines later start sprinkling scummotives on top of it anyway. And it's kinda frustrating since a handful of y'all are doing it, cuz that makes it real hard to feel who's actually forcing it. :/In post 98, MonkeyMan576 wrote:
Maybe they are just scumhunting?In post 93, Carcalilly wrote:
89 92Carcalilly wrote: I also think its funny that people will blow up their motives for them.
I will add these to the gallery.
maybe I'm dumb and can't really see that much in two short sentences. my gut is softly telling me someone is piggybacking off this for hunting creds. I'll get back to you if I ever pinpoint who."don't be carcasilly" -RadiantCowbells
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