Xyl's Relative Chaos - Game over!

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What's with the vote count?

WOW, talk about chaos, yikes!

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Unvote farside22, vote Tubby216

I really don't like that last post of yours, that combined with is enough to put the vote for me

Care to elaborate?

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I could go for a animopherv lynch on account of faking post restrictions is anti-town.

unvote, vote: animopherv

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What, Vi is also faking a PR???

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DGB, why do you feel that worthy of a vote?

I can't think of any scenario where that's pro-town behavior. The only purpose is to hide oneself behind a 'restriction' to prolong personal survival in the game.

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I don't believe faking post restrictions is a null tell. At all.

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 22#1341822

If find this post to be very manipulative, a play up of the newbie card, and an attempt to distract. He has just a few votes yet he's flailing and accusing everyone of being scum.

I honestly believe it could be korts leading the lynch for me is scummy, why,
Because either way its win win for him,

If I flip scum he wins because he led the charge to get scum lynched

That last sentence is scummy on several levels. It's almost an admission that korts is bus'ing. It's quite extraordinary.

If I flip town he wins because my actions were to newbish and too scummy therefore I need to be taught a lesson which he stated here

What??? good grief, I just can't wrap my head around this one.

I think he's just plain scum, and he's melting down

unvote, vote: tubby

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Are you two buddies? You can tell me the truth.

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You and cow.

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Just being a drama queen as always.

Hullow, gorgeous.

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I'm more fasinated with how behind the game DGB is. I feel like say a day late and a dollar short on what she is saying.

Yes that's true, but henceforth I shall pay more attention to this game, much to your future chagrin

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DGB, what were you hoping to achieve with that question exactly?

[/quote]It's psychological. Please do not interrupt the experts.

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Oh good. Should I expect that vote and BW comments to come shortly?

You have to earn your vote like everyone else. What's BW?

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Ok, so what did you deduce from the reply?

I need more time with the patient. Nurse, bring the Truth Serum.

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Requesting replacement. I'm bored, I don't understand it, and would like to dedicate my energies to my other games. Sorry.

Seriously, what's so complicated???

Scum infighting?

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I like where my vote is.

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This game seems to lack a sense of direction.

Let's run up a nice big wagon, then we'll have stuff to talk about. We're wimpy with the votes. That's not the way to win.

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GO GO GO

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Eleven more!

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@ farside - hi sweetie. I missed you too.

on a serious note, DGB was going to be my second vote after CC most likely. so this recent post by her:

This game seems to lack a sense of direction.

Let's run up a nice big wagon, then we'll have stuff to talk about. We're wimpy with the votes. That's not the way to win.

sparked my vote and reaffirmed my suspicion of her because of her jokey posts that avoid the questions and lack of an actual case against, well, anyone

Interesting fast jump on a gratuitous, but fun, bandwagon on me and only bothering to explain it the day after. What, you're afraid we're going to come after you alter?

Dahill you are scum.

unvote, vote: dahill1

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Grrr, I mean 'after' not 'alter' - though 'alter' was more intriguing.

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What are you saying here? I can't understand it, because I'm pretty sure that dahill did explain his suspicions in a satisfactory manner.

It's all about the remorsefull timing of his post hoc explanation.

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Question.

Is tubby lurking???

Yes? No?

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He melted down, now has disappeared for 3 days. Is he lurking? That is my question.

I say he's scum.

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and yet you're voting for dahill even though he made perfectly clear that you were one of his suspects. Why?

What, you think there's only one scum in this game?

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I change my mind. Tubby is town.

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I'm suspicious of the following players:
SpyreX, ZazieR, CoheedCambria09

Reason: I don't like how they are hanging on to a wagon that has lost much of its steam. That stinks of disappointed, lazy scum to me.

In other news, Korts is town. I agree that animo & Coheed should be pushed. I pick Coheed because he persists on the tubby non-wagon.

unvote, vote: CoheedCambria09

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I'm sure that he is also the highest vote count had nothing to do with this vote right?

Three votes. A fourth vote is a good pressure vote. Got a problem with that?

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This. This is the post of a townie. I'd be shocked if tubby turned scum. This is NOT a scum reaction.

i'm still a lil lost here,

but DGB, did u want a wagon on u for disscussion purposes?

wat is the case on DGB??

spyrex is there anything you would like me to answer?? or would you rater just see me lynched??


doomcow, thank you for your explin ation thats all i wanted,,

unvote

mafia ssk still waiting for your pbp i would guess its coming soon??

to all i appologize i wasn't expecting to have to leave for three days

vote U S Army

for lack of notice wit their gawd damn orders and their infinate exersices in futility,,,,

unvote

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Korts is town for reasons similar to tubby's.

He made a couple of posts that are from a town-brain perspective. Again, not the sort of thing scum can fake, because there's no reason for it, they have nothing to gain. It's just the kind of thinking and wording that come naturally to a townie.

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I'm suspicious of the following players:
SpyreX, ZazieR, CoheedCambria09

why is korts town? do you honestly think all 3 of them are scum? if so, are you still suspicious of me?

i'm still fine with my vote and it's not unlikely that DGB could be bussing right now.

I forgot about you, dahill. I think Spyrex has been scummy as well. I'd be immensely shocked if all 3 were scum, there's probably about 1.25 townies in the lot.

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how can scum not fake thinking from a townie perspective? they most certainly would have something to gain from your view since you will think they're town

Of course they do. But the challenge of the game is to be able to distinguish between players that spout off lines that they think look townie, while sounding like bad actors, from those players that have an unmistakable townie earnestness, and sound honest.

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So DGB, if I

unvote

does that show i'm "not persistent with a non-wagon" anymore?

It's too late, scum. Plus, you didn't bother doing it.

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I believe that squashed banana.

If he's lying, he deserves to win, and a Scummie for 'funniest role claim.'

unvote

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EBWOP

I believe THE squashed banana.

Proofreading is tech.

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vote: DoomCow

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He's just a squashed banana. Nothing to see here. Move it along. No staring.

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I also think DGB's change of heart after the claim and her vote on DoomCow without comment is somewhat suspicious.

Only if you forget that I mentioned my agreement with the case against DoomCow earlier.

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I also think DGB's change of heart after the claim and her vote on DoomCow without comment is somewhat suspicious.

Only if you forget that I mentioned my agreement with the case against DoomCow earlier.

Where, when? Because a quick search of your posts in isolation yielded no results.

OH crap you're right, I must have forgot to take my dose of SENILIAGRA^TM this morning.

unvote

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DoomCow for not adding any content.

Maybe I'm not so senile. I believe that's the post I agreed with, my agreement coming in the form of a vote immediately following.

If DoomCow flips scum, Korts may be his buddy.

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Doomcow, please explain why a scum would come up with a claim of 'squashed banana' instead of, say, 'doc' or 'cop' in order to drag the real one out to counterclaim to at least help his buddies on the way down the guillotine?

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animo, explain.

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I do declare dahill to be town in this game.

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OK. I'm satisfied that Vi is town.

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I do support a CC/animorph lynch today

Why CC??? The guy is a walking vig/NK target. No possible information can be had from his lynch.

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DoomCow: I'm giving you 24 hours to comment then I will show why you are scum. If you don't come back in time you have no one to blame but yourself.
That is all.

FYI the only way I will by DC at this point is a full claim. I will explain why after the claim.
Thank you.

Hmmm, this gets good. Farside is town. What a change! I'm not sure I can get used to this.

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I like Vi's list.

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Obv Obv Obv play for today:

vote: ZazieR

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Alright. Knowing that Zazie and Spyrex were scum is going to help a lot.

These are the players that they bus'ed on Day 1:

ZAZIE:
animopherv
tubby

SPYREX:
tubby
Doomcow

I'd be willing to vote for any of these players.

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how do you know that both of them have buddies?

FoS: DGB

Why on Earth would you assume, or suggest that they don't have any?

FOS: hascow

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Just for cow.

Knowing that crazy is scum I would suspect tubby as his partner for defending him day one such as here:

Hmm, personally I don't see the big deal about tubby. He essentially said the same thing Korts said, except a little more specifically.

Personally, I don't think it means anything. I mean, can you imagine Xyl making it so scum could get screwed over by a votecount? I mean, how does that really add anything to the game? What purpose would Xyl have in putting in a mechanic that draws from the spirit of mafia?

Also I pointed out tubby followed Crazy then voted for him. DGB talks about scum bussing she should look at those 2.

I see the opposite of bus'ing.

BTW.

We have Natirasha a proven cop.

We have a second cop????

'Scuse me if I put my skeptical hat on for a moment.

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how do you know that both of them have buddies?

FoS: DGB

Why on Earth would you assume, or suggest that they don't have any?

does secret agent sound like it has buddies?

Good point, but then why does his name show up a different color?

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check the claim again, then if you still don't understand, I'll tell you what I think.

There's a claim? It must have escaped my attention. I'll check again. But it begs the question, why did farside choose Crazy to investigate? Instead of a more annoying player that she'd no doubt love to catch being scum, like, say, myself?

Because he's not associated with zazier...
Why wouldn't his name show up in a different color?

I know that... but he's not the same color as townies, either. What do you think that means???

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You calling me a liar?

This is mafia. SOme of us may lie, I have to make sure I'm not being hoodwinked.

Well I'm not a cop cop I'm a role cop. I can verify animoph's role, but I would rather not because it's something that may hurt the town if known. I don't want to say to much. So the fact of the matter is I didn't get guilty on Crazy I got his role as Mafiaso

OK, rolecop. Why would it hurt the town if you verified animorph's role? How would you know, unless you knew his role already???

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So you know his role, but there are dire consequences if you state the role? That IS very bizarre.

So you investigated Crazy for 'lying low' when Crazy stated that he wouldn't be around but did not want to be replaced, instead of me??? Seriously. I'd think that if you had a killing role, I'd be dead Night 1, and that if you had a investigative role, I'd be investigated Night 1 as well. I'm very puzzled by your omission to pick me. I smell a gambit.

If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not true. Some things aren't right.

Your trying to paint my justified skepticism with being associated with Crazy will not stick.

If you're wrong about Crazy, you'll be vigged tonight or lynched tomorrow. But the question is, could this be a calculated risk that you would take as scum? I have to wonder.

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These are the players that are left:

1. Natirasha - proven cop.
2. Crazy
3. Scattered hasdgfas
4. farside22 - claimed rolecop.
5. CoheedCambria09 - squashed banana? survivor?
6. animorpherv1 - according to farside, bizarre dangerous role.
7. Vi
8. DrippingGoofball
9. tubby216

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Nine players. Farside gets us to mislynch today. Let's suppose 2 nightkills, which is a possibility. Tomorrow, we are six players. Perhaps 2 scums from farside's group still alive. God knows what else, if there's another group. Farside gets lynched if wrong about Crazy. tomorrow, we're 3 players, one scum from farside's group???

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How do you now that second kill wasn't a vig?
Lots of guessing from DGB.

Yeah, what else am I supposed to do? But we had 3 deaths. Something doesn't add up and I want to know why.

We have a proven cop.
A dead spy.
A role cop.

That's a lot of investigative power, isn't it?

And you haven't explained why you investigated animorph instead of me. There's was almost no suspicion at all on Crazy. Your choice is strange.

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I think you are purposely misunderstanding me so I will tell you animorph's role.

You didn't say his role. You say you will, then you don't. Will you or won't you. Then a couple of sentences later it looks like you backtrack.

I never said his roll will kill me I said it could kill two people. Read between the lines.
Also how do you know how many mafia are left?

I know you didn't say it was going to kill YOU. But reading the lines, I see nothing. Maybe I'm daft.

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Proven cop
Dead spy (scum)
role cop (town)

That's what I think, that the dead spy is scum. But hascow seems to think otherwise. What's your take on that, farside? ANd what does a scum spy do???

I stated I was thought animoph was scum. That is why I checked him out day 1. Day two was more interesting because we had a cop claim and hascow was asking questions.

Why didn't you investigate hascow?

Mafia SSK commited suicide. I believe lovers commit suicide so yay 2 deaths with a 3rd who had to leap to his death.

But the obituary would say 'lover' and it does not, so where does that notion come from?

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1337 speak???

Alright, let's test farside.

vote: Crazy

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I can say it for him:

NO.

Ugh?

Nat's 1337 message was pretty clear (at least the second sentence!).

I now trust farside to be a role cop.

Why the disagreement, animo???

Anyways, the course of action is obvious for today. We're lynching Crazy.

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I now trust farside to be a role cop.

What changed?[/quote]Natirasha, a confirmed cop, concurs with farside.

BOTH have investigated Crazy as scum.

Where's your vote, Vi?

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Crazy is VLA. What's a scum going to say? Oops I've been caught? And Crazy's disappeared, we can't expect a replacement at this point.

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I'm disappointed that CoheedCambria09 hasn't been vig'ged. I mean, that sort of survivor-smelling 'squashed banana' claim had 'vig target' written all over it. With the number of kills, we might be looking at an SK or mafiate. Also, CC was too chicken to vote yesterday.

We have to be very careful with our votes.

Five players, only 3 needed to lynch. One false move on a townie and he will be promptly rounded up by the scumbags.

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How do you know we have 2 scum left on the same team?

Why do you think that's what I said? That's not what I said. We had two kills last night. Farside strikes me as an obv scum kill. But Vi? I dunno. Vi doesn't look right as a vig kill. No one claimed vig, either.

In my post I referred to the possibility of a survivor, SK and mafiate. Where do you get the idea that we have two scum left on the same team. Is this something that you KNOW? Are you, like, projecting???

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Why do they have to be on the same team to hammer a townie??? You think an SK or a survivor wouldn't jump on the opportunity? All we need are two members of an anti-town faction - they can be from separate factions, it doesn't matter, the result is the same. They don't need to coordinate this either.

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but it's much, much harder, because they don't know who else they have to be coordinating with.

Why? They'll gladly hammer or pile votes on anyone if that will further their win condition. It's not even a little bit harder to do if the anti-town factions belong to different groups or are individuals.

REGARDLESS - no one places a reckless vote, thank ahead.

*** Gah, bluehost screen of death keeps popping up ***

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CC, thank you for taking this opportunity to say nothing of significance except to excuse your lurking.

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Hmm, honestly, I think Nat might be faking a PR. I can go more into it if necessary.

It's necessary. Speak.

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Day 1 and Day 2 don't look the same to me. What do you think it is?

We don't know what or who sets the PR's.

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Besides, he got guilties from two different factions. This is not compatible with Xyl being scum.

Hascow, you're not as worried with CoheedCambria as I am. Any reason for that?

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Hascow, you're not as worried with CoheedCambria as I am. Any reason for that?

What, exactly, do you mean by this?

What do you think CC is?

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Personally, now that I've seen the type of roles posted in the obituaries, I don't believe CC's 'squashed banana' claim anymore. I want him dead.

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These were the other roles:

DoomCow,

jack of all trades

The Internet dahill1,

coward

ZazieR,

ballot thief

MafiaSSK,

the mayor

SpyreX,

secret agent

Korts,

the mayor's wife

Crazy,

mafioso

Vi,

townie

farside22,

role cop

animorpherv1, u

nrequited lover

You think after all this I'm still going to believe in the possibility of a 'squashed banana' role???

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Yes, but after looking at all these other roles I am hard pressed to see any chaos whatsoever.

In other new, your avatar gives me epileptic seizures.

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Yep.

I don't believe it either.

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That looks correct.

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There is foam between CC9 and tubby?

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Well, I do think CoheedCambria is our best bet for the lynch. I don't see him protesting too strongly; he probably feels that he's been caught and there's little hope.

vote: CoheedCambria

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I think CC9 needs to be lynched again.

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S_ _ Cannot use vowels today. _mm s_ sc_m decided to not kill? i think a massclaim is in order.

^^^^
That's what I could decode from Nat's gibberish.

I'd like hasdagas to go first. Because he wants to kill a twice successful cop. Then, tubby and me, in whatever order.

I'm not sure CC turned townie. I can more easily imagine him turning scum.

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I was also investigated by Nat.

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has

=pro town investigated by nat nite 4

Are you sure? I don't remember that.

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and one other thing, DGB, do you remember Thespival mafia? That's all I'm going to say about it for now.

I do. Are you referring to the part where you had me completely fooled?

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has, why did you pardon CC?

His claim that he now has an alignment seems particularly far fetched - even more than his claim of squashed banana.

I was thinking that maybe,

maybe

, he needed to be lynched to gain an alignment. Turns out that this theory is rubbish. CC is just plain scum. How can you not see that? I can't believe you held on to governor powers all this time just to waste it on what is more likely than not a scumbag. You may have lost us the game. What has CC done to deserve a pardon??? It's not like he's a useful power role! At best he's a survivor, at worst he's a SK, or fakeclaiming scum! What were you thinking?

Why on earth would he need to be lynched, AND pardoned, and then get is alignment???

THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER

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And I don't know where the Nat-hate comes from. Nat has caught scum from what appears to be two different factions. And he's not counterclaimed. There is NO WAY Nat is scum. No way. Think about it.

More and more I think that has is scum. Maybe CC is your buddy and has lynch immunity. As far-fetched as this may be,

it's not as crazy as 'squashed banana' that needs to be lynched to gain an alignment, but that would be in fact dead unless he was pardoned.

I'm willing and eager to re-lynch CC.

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I'm willing to lynch CC or hasdagas.

But I'll wait for tubby's claim.

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Alright. investigated CC09 last night. H_ _s innocent.

If the other two, r_r__ding the night flavor again, i am willing to say that hasdsfas is the governor. That leads me to believe that tubby is the last scum.

On why I hammered. I never don't hammer.

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Nat. Have you considered the possibility of a Godfather?

I'd still be willing to lynch CC. His story makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm not sure I trust hasdagas. Governor is a town role. But I am wary of his distrust of Nat. VERY wary.

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I'd be surprised if you're the last scum, tubby.

I'm way way more worried about Coheed's crazy story that makes absolutely no sense at all. And there's something not quite right about hasdagas. I'm willing to lynch either.

I believe that tubby, Nat and myself are the remaining townies. Coheed and hadagas as some kind of scum.

There is no way, no way that Coheed has a town role. I'm not sure what the mechanics are behind his surviving the lynch yesterday. But I wouldn't be surprised if hasdagas is not a Governor at all. What he might be instead, I haven't a clue. But too many things don't add up with Coheed's role.

He is not town and he must die.

vote: CoheedCambria09

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I'm the doctor, and I've been protecting Nat.

Tubby, you haven't picked up a role for governor or squashed banana. Or for cop or doctor, for that matter.

But given what we know of the role names, and what you've seen of the roles, is that they are pretty conventional, aren't they.

So do you believe the squashed-banana-turned-townie-if-resurrected story???

And what do you think of the fact that hasdagas buys this cockamamie squashed-banana-turned-townie-if-resurrected role, but does not believe a cop that has proven himself correct twice for two different scum groups?

If the scumgroup consists of only two people, and one mafioso is dead, there may be only one left. A group of two is pretty small for a game this size.

I can think of a few admittedly remote possibilities.

Perhaps the squashed banana is recruited to the scum pair if lynched. That's a very long shot.

Perphaps one of the mafiosos gets an extra life if lynched if they are only two. That would be more likely than my first idea.

But we have NO VIG, and recently, we had at least two kills (one was a lover-type death). SO WE HAVE TWO KILLERS LEFT.

I wouldn't be surprised if hasdagas OPPORTUNISTICALLY claimed governor when he saw that CoheedBanana survived his lynch.

I think the remaining scum are CC, and hasdagas.

If I'm correct, hasdagas will not be able to 'pardon' CC if CC only has a one-shot lynch survival ability.

Our best bet is to lynch CC again. And see whether hasdagas can fake a pardon again.

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Question: Do people want me to pardon whoever we lynch so I can prove my ability?

I do - in a way. I'm pretty darn sure that CC is scum so I want his dead. And I'd like you to prove your power, too. I'm torn.

Yes, I remember the timing of Nat's guilty. What are you supposing?

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1) Why would scum get any ability to stop a lynch, whether lynch-immune or governor?

Maybe. Or maybe CC had a free lynch and you're pretending to be governor.

There's something EXTREMELY weird with CC finding out his alignment AFTER he's been lynched. PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

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Wait, no. Don't, if we are in LyLO, then we essentially throw the game to the scum.

We have two anti-town killing factions since no one claimed vig.

CC HAS TO BE ONE.

If he's working alone he may have investigation immunity of sorts.

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DGB, y is it that you dont beleive Nat now that he says I'm innocent. I don't know why I was told my alignment after I was lynched, or pardoned or whatever happened last night. I'm not a killing role nor am I scum. I am a plain townie, no abilities.

please stop tunnel visioning me. The cop has even said I'm innocent.

I don't like tubby's claim nor do I like how he is sooo eager to go along with you DGB to lynch me again

vote:Tubby

I believe Nat and will continue to protect him. However I think you might be a traitor, a godfather, an investigation-immune SK, who knows.

NOBODY LUNCHES TUBBY.

We need tubby to get more roles out. Do do otherwise is the hand the game to some kind of scum, or which there are two factions out of five remaining players.

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Well.

Informal votecount.
CoheedCambria09 - 2 (DrippingGoofball, tubby216)
Tubby - 2 (Natirasha, CC)

Not voting: hasdagas

Lemme guess. hasdascum is going to hammer tubby.

I'm really shocked that Natirasha isn't using his noodle and hammering CC. I've never been so sure that a player is scum as I am of CC. I'm quite unsettled by Nat's vote and his neglect to consider the possibilities I have offered.

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_ _m now sure that DGB is scum, along with tubby. _ the nk h_s while "Y__ should hammer natirisha

hasdgfas, t_d_y l_ts lynch tebby(obvscum 1) and go with DGB tomorrow.

I've been proctecting you like, for a million nights. Don't make me regret it.

I've asked you for your opinion on CC's claim. Where is your answer?

You seriously think CC's claim is more credible than tubby's??????

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I feel thoroughly outscummed in this game.

Where are the townies???????? I can't be the only one. Nobody but tubby seems to be thinking logically. Everyone else is out in left field not thinking anything through and totally ignoring my arguments.

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Also, how come Nat's vote isn't counted?

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Except that we have two killing factions, not just one, so we HAVE to get it right.

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DGB, I'm not any of those, I'm a plain townie. Why do you believe Tubby's claim so much when it can so easily be faked with roles revealed (the only ones he said were those of dead players. He didnt know any of the living ones.)

Your claim does NOT fit any of the others.

Why would you become a townie after you are lynched? You would only know IF you got pardoned by a governor. That is totally illogical.

At least tubby's claim, while not airtight, is credible. Yours is neither airtight nor credible.

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There's something EXTREMELY weird with CC finding out his alignment AFTER he's been lynched. PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

IT IS EXTREMELY WEIRD. I don't know what to think of it. I said that already.

Then why aren't you on his case? Why aren't you pushing to re-lynch him?

Yes, I remember the timing of Nat's guilty. What are you supposing?

Nat's "guilty" on crazy was

AFTER

farside's. He could easily have faked that, and if he's scum, which I believe he is, he could have contributed more towards a bus of his buddy without actually starting it.

I realize that, but then how do you explain the guilty result on another scumbag? Do you think Nat belongs to two scumgroups and therefore bus'ed one of each group? How do you explain that he's not counterclaimed?

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There's something EXTREMELY weird with CC finding out his alignment AFTER he's been lynched. PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

IT IS EXTREMELY WEIRD. I don't know what to think of it. I said that already.

Then why aren't you on his case? Why aren't you pushing to re-lynch him?

Yes, I remember the timing of Nat's guilty. What are you supposing?

Nat's "guilty" on crazy was

AFTER

farside's. He could easily have faked that, and if he's scum, which I believe he is, he could have contributed more towards a bus of his buddy without actually starting it.

I realize that, but then how do you explain the guilty result on another scumbag? Do you think Nat belongs to two scumgroups and therefore bus'ed one of each group? How do you explain that he's not counterclaimed? If you have a plausible explanation that makes Nat less credible than CC, I'd love to hear it.

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We're trying to find scum. CC is obv scum.

Nat can answer your questions anytime, I don't need to be 'quiet.' Don't silence me.

When we have an obvscum like CC, that you CLAIM to have PARDONED, 'scuse me if my scumdar is shooting sparks.

I want to find out what's up with THAT. You're not answering my questions with any detail. You are shifty and slippery. Can you try again, being more forthright this time?

Remember: WE HAVE TWO FRICKIN KILLING FACTIONS and I'm pretty sure you saved one from being lynched. You don't seem to feel guilty at all. That disturbs me greatly.

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shifty and slippery? What questions haven't I answered?
I pardoned CC because Nat's hammer set my scumdar on maximum.

You are not answering any of my questions in any detail, or in a convincing manner. You talk like a politician.

Let's suppose that you're right about Nat. We have TWO KILLING FACTIONS and maybe Nat was helping us kill the other one??? What were you thinking??? Can't you see, as plainly as I do, that CC is lying through his teeth?

Remember: WE HAVE TWO FRICKIN KILLING FACTIONS and I'm pretty sure you saved one from being lynched. You don't seem to feel guilty at all. That disturbs me greatly.

Because I thought it was the right move, and I still do. It may turn out otherwise, but I really didn't like Nat's hammer, and didn't want to lose to such an obvious scum move.[/quote]Look, someone had to hammer the scum, and I don't care who it was. It's not reason to help a scummy player survive another day. Really. Even if you thought Nat was scum. There was no reason to save CC, and there's no reason to leave him alive today, too.

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EBWOP, fixing quotes.

shifty and slippery? What questions haven't I answered?
I pardoned CC because Nat's hammer set my scumdar on maximum.

You are not answering any of my questions in any detail, or in a convincing manner. You talk like a politician.

Let's suppose that you're right about Nat. We have TWO KILLING FACTIONS and maybe Nat was helping us kill the other one??? What were you thinking??? Can't you see, as plainly as I do, that CC is lying through his teeth?

Remember: WE HAVE TWO FRICKIN KILLING FACTIONS and I'm pretty sure you saved one from being lynched. You don't seem to feel guilty at all. That disturbs me greatly.

Because I thought it was the right move, and I still do. It may turn out otherwise, but I really didn't like Nat's hammer, and didn't want to lose to such an obvious scum move.

Look, someone had to hammer the scum, and I don't care who it was. It's not reason to help a scummy player survive another day. Really. Even if you thought Nat was scum. There was no reason to save CC, and there's no reason to leave him alive today, too.

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Besides, hasdagas, if you're REALLY a governor, then the ability is USUALLY one-shot.

You claim your ability is NOT one-shot.

I don't believe you.

I think you're full of baloney.

You are also chickening out of my challenge of re-lynching CC, and see if you dare resurrect him again.

I wager that you CANNOT.

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1.

Unvote, Vote: tubby

2.

Why is tubby obvscum

Because DGB, the other person i think is scum, is trying to get CC09 lynched, why i have an innocent on. The only reason i am not trying to lynch DGB is the benefit of the doubt if my having an innocent on him.

Is your rolename cop?

My rolename is Post-Restricted cop.
i am allowed to get away with 3 screw-up posts, which is why i wasn't MK'd by the one post you quoted earlier.

What kind of ability is your PR?

it's a passive ability.

Ack!!!!

Don't you get it... there is such a phenomena as INVESTIGATION IMMUNITY - don't you think there's a possibility that CC, as a survivor, or perhaps as a SK, or half of a mafia group, would have that???

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Well, I guess it's now in hasdagas' hands... and I'm not sure that he's town...

I guess I'm just wasting my time in a game that's going to go to one scumgroup or another. It's has' pick...

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Don't you get it... there is such a phenomena as INVESTIGATION IMMUNITY - don't you think there's a possibility that CC, as a survivor, or perhaps as a SK, or half of a mafia group, would have that???

_r p_rh_ps y__?

Yes - I can't tell you how shocked I am by your failure at thinking of the possibility of investigation immunity on your own.

What do you think of CC's claim? Credible?

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The other claim is cows. If its true than I'd like to thank him. But I'm weary about it because he could just have claimed it because I survived the night (which I feel may be because I was a squashed banana first, to me it seems like it was a oneshot NK immunity.)

But you weren't nightkilled, you were LYNCHED.

Another think I find dodgy about your claim is that after being a banana, you become a plain townie. Not a townie with a used up survive-a-lynch ability, or survive-a-NK ability, but plain townie. I'd sooner believe a survivor role with a one-shot death-defiance, and perhaps investigation immunity. I'm immensely frustrated that Nat isn't considering the possibility.

It makes no sense at all.

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I cannot in good conscience move my vote to tubby. Despite the fact that his claim can easily be manufactured, at least it's CREDIBLE. CC's claim is not credible AT ALL. hasdagas' claim makes my scumdar overheat because he says it's not the usual one-shot deal. Nat is not acting rationally.

I think tubby and myself are the only two townies left. Two of the remaining three belong to some killing faction. I'm not sure which one is town. But it's not CC. I would peg CC as 100% scum. One of Nat and hasdagas is scum.

And right now the choice of lynch rests in hasdagas' hands, which does not augur well for the town.

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Wait, DGB, governor is usually one-shot? Really? I disagree. Maybe it usually is that it can usually only pardon the same person once, but every time I've seen it, they can pardon as many different people as they like.

I've only ever seen one-shot governors.

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DGB's constant yelling _t m_ makes me think he is the godfather, though. I suppose I must Vote:DGB, then.

Please explain how my wanting your lynch real bad and believing that YOU may be investigation-immune makes me a godfather.

Nat: Unvote.

Please explain why you are demanding that Nat unvotes me, and then you yourself vote me in the same post.

I have reason to believe that tubby's role is true. However,

Please explain that reason.

I will investigate him tonight just in case

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Oh now you also have investigative powers?

Criminy, Coheed, ARE YOU A JESTER, and perhaps hasdagas really did pardon you? OMG that would be toooooo funny.

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I must be daft. I don't get it.

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I am in fear that hasdagas is going to rap my knuckles along with the answer.

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Slap me with a wet herring, please.

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...wow, it was a translation of Nat's post...

Hey! Are you rubbing it in??? You don't think I feel stoooopid 'nuff already?

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dgb,, you wanna hug??

A hug and a candy cane would be nice!

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SEE DGBSCUM. The pardon was the right idea! Ha! I should've lynched you for appeal to emotion there. That was a terrible last day.

I was 100% sure that CC was either a SK, or part of another mafia group. As convinced as I was that tubby was the last remaining townie. hasdagas - I thought you may be CC's partner. I thought that CC had some one-shot lynch immunity that you used to claim governor.

YAY! Wrong on all counts.

I thought Nat's gambit of guessing that another player was scum, claiming an investigation result and actually getting right was absolutely brilliant; that and the fact that he has a horseshoe up the keister.

His gambit gave me tons of reasons to never bus him, and to support him every inch of the way.

We also got lucky recruiting Nat early in the game in the first place.

Yeah Spyrex - If you're alive on Day 2, I'm not scum, haha.