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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:29 pm

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:10 am

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SC wrote:I don't associate post restrictions with mini normals, nor do I think the pictures in and of themselves warrant a vote. If Primate is allowed to speak in words, I'd rather he do so, but his actions are not per se scummy.
Exactly.
Corvuus wrote:So I think that at the very LEAST he can type "Vote: Insert name" to show that he can at least contribute that. But if he doesn't vote, then that is so glaring anti-town that we pretty much would have to get rid of him just to move on.
You'll notice he is currently voting.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:19 am

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Corvuus wrote: So yeah, I don't think he is scum; but until he types a word/vote I am voting for him (or if someone scummier appears).

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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:26 am

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Corvuus wrote: how about I ask a question about something I have always wondered about.

Let's say we have a group of 4 players (whether by lurking, only replying when spoken to directly, etc.) who are able to survive and make it all the way to lylo without saying a *single* scummy thing at all.

You know 1 is mafia, but you really have no idea which? What do you do? It could be as simple as 'no lynch' to improve random odds of victory or it could be using the beginning random vote, or it could be that you would never let the game get to this point by hanging the people who couldn't be read... I don't know.

I guess I just want to see how you guys respond.

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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:48 am

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Yeah I said he was antitown/not helpful, not scummy. And it doesn't look like he cares.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:46 am

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Corvuus wrote:I didn't say Primate's voluntary PR is scummy, I said it was anti-town.

i.e. it doesn't give us info or help the town overall.

I can't get a read on a 'picture' in order to determine what he is thinking/saying, etc. and how can he contribute to a real discussion with only pictures/smilies?

I mean, for all of you I could do a PBPA at some point but for him, if I click on his name now it is a bunch of pictures or a dancing smiling thing. He doesn't even have a random vote! The only word he has spoken is /confirm at the beginning!

So I think that at the very LEAST he can type "Vote: Insert name" to show that he can at least contribute that. But if he doesn't vote, then that is so glaring anti-town that we pretty much would have to get rid of him just to move on.

So yeah, I don't think he is scum; but until he types a word/vote I am voting for him (or if someone scummier appears).

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I don't get this post. One, Primate is voting, and the mod has counted his vote on me when he typed it in words. Two, if you think Primate is merely anti-town instead of scummy, then why are you voting him? Three, why are you viewing Primate as a liability to the town that needs to be disposed of?

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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:09 pm

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Corvuus wrote:I didn't say Primate's voluntary PR is scummy, I said it was anti-town.

i.e. it doesn't give us info or help the town overall.
Personally, I think that Primate's being pretty clear with his posts. Sure, he's having some fun, and not being as informative as he could be, but I'm pretty well following what he's saying. How is his picture-posting anti-town?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:49 am

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MacavityLock wrote:Personally, I think that Primate's being pretty clear with his posts. Sure, he's having some fun, and not being as informative as he could be, but I'm pretty well following what he's saying.
Posts #127 and #128 make quite a bit of sense to me, so I think I've figured him out.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:42 am

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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:35 am

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Sorry I've been off for too long.
Are we past Random Voting, or are we working with tangible evidence?
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:04 am

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Apothecary wrote:Sorry I've been off for too long.
Are we past Random Voting, or are we working with tangible evidence?
We're past it now. A lot of the current cases have something or other to do with Primate.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:24 am

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sorry, i don't consider /confirm,
vote: *blank*
in order to make it 2>1.

in the first two posts of the game with nothing else said as contributing.

If he can unvote and change his vote, etc. then good job.

i am voting him to pressure him to actually say something or unvote/vote. I didn't say he was scum but he is being stubborn, not helping and what is wrong with voting for someone who isn't scumhunting or contributing?

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:40 am

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Corvuus wrote:sorry, i don't consider /confirm,
vote: *blank*
in order to make it 2>1.

in the first two posts of the game with nothing else said as contributing.

If he can unvote and change his vote, etc. then good job.

i am voting him to pressure him to actually say something or unvote/vote. I didn't say he was scum but he is being stubborn, not helping and what is wrong with voting for someone who isn't scumhunting or contributing?

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You do know that Primate's vote is now on SC, right? He moved his random vote when he called SC a convenience store robber. I'd expect a townie to be paying more attention to the guy he's voting for than Corvuus has.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:42 am

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Your response doesn't answer my third question, Corvuus. You wrote this:
Corvuus wrote:But if he doesn't vote, then that is so glaring anti-town that we pretty much would have to get rid of him just to move on.
I wrote this in response:
StrangerCoug wrote:Three, why are you viewing Primate as a liability to the town that needs to be disposed of?
I'll allow whether voting in and of itself is contributing to be debated (I don't think so), but for you to make an untrue statement and then use that statement to push a utility lynch is scummy.
StrangerCoug wrote:i am voting him to pressure him to actually say something or unvote/vote. I didn't say he was scum but he is being stubborn, not helping and what is wrong with voting for someone who isn't scumhunting or contributing?
I have no problem with voting someone who isn't scumhunting, and pressure voting someone who isn't contributing is not scummy in my book. What is wrong, however, is that if this is a post restriction of his as we believe, then voting him to get him to speak in words is useless.
StrangerCoug wrote:sorry, i don't consider /confirm,
vote: *blank*
in order to make it 2>1.
Are you actually reading the thread, or are you skimming? You are pressure voting Primate to get him to do something he either most likely can't do or already did. The "vote: *blank*" is actually a vote on me—in post #76, the line breaks after the word "vote" on a 1024×768 monitor.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:23 am

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EBWOP: The "vote: *blank*" was actually on Evilgorillaz, not me. I am the person he's currently voting, though.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:18 pm

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FoS:Smitey

Pressuring primate because he wants to put pretty pictures up is very bad mannered. It takes a bit of thought, but it is possible to understand his posts.

FoS:Zeppo

Jumpy is not as scummy as trying to blend in. Actually I don't think mitey is blending in right now.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:21 pm

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Evilgorrilaz wrote:
FoS:Smitey

Jumpy is not as scummy as trying to blend in. Actually I don't think mitey is blending in right now.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Hehehe!
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:10 am

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his picture post formats weird for me and places his vote in the far bottom right corner.

I didn't see it, and frankly, I am still going to vote for him until he posts a response/says something.

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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:19 am

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MiteyMouse wrote:
Evilgorrilaz wrote:
FoS:Smitey

Jumpy is not as scummy as trying to blend in. Actually I don't think mitey is blending in right now.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Hehehe!
First it was against zeppo not Smitey. Quote correctly.

And why don't you tell me?
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:12 am

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Corvuus wrote:his picture post formats weird for me and places his vote in the far bottom right corner.

I didn't see it, and frankly, I am still going to vote for him until he posts a response/says something.

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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:44 am

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Evilgorrilaz wrote:
MiteyMouse wrote:
Evilgorrilaz wrote:
FoS:Smitey

Jumpy is not as scummy as trying to blend in. Actually I don't think mitey is blending in right now.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Hehehe!
First it was against zeppo not Smitey. Quote correctly.

And why don't you tell me?
Sorry...about the quote thing. I think That me being me is a good thing...but I was trying to make a bit of a joke...hence the hehehe!
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:43 am

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Posting to show that I am here, read all the responses and such but I am just as stubborn as "Little Miss stubborn" is.

My vote stays where it is until he posts another response (pictures or words) to it.

As for him having a PR, I say BS.

I would prefer if none of you answer, defend, or fight for him. Let Primate respond to me.

If we don't deal with this now, and what I see as a voluntary PR, then he is just going to coast through the game and we can't determine meta, scum-town-tells, etc. since it is a picture.

So if the rest of you do want something to think about/respond to, then think about this, what if we are in lylo and Primate is there with his "voluntary" picture PR. What will you do?

I will ignore all comments which say that it is a "PR" since I am not convinced.


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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:01 pm

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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:01 pm

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Primate wrote:Image
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:35 pm

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At this point it seems that our discussions have stagnated. In one corner we have Primate and Corvuus going back and forth (BTW I actually am enjoying the Haitian from Heroes impression Primate). Then we have some halfhearted discussion from just about everyone. It seems to me everyone is playing very conservatively. I've did another read through looking for anything I can to get some sort of helpful dialog started to help us come up with a good initial lynch. I haven't come up with anything new and am unsure how to progress from here. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this day rolling?
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