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[Flavor Leaf]

I gotta say, you feel very malleable as a player, like wherever the wind takes you, you'll just blow with it.

I agree with this, and I don't think it comes from scum in this situation. they've fought me with my push on you, and then my push on Human, but then ended up coming to agreement after discussion, which I think is townie.

That type of playstyle is very hard to pull off successfully as scum, and I don't think it's happening here, i think they're genuinely analyzing the game atm.

[Flavor Leaf]

There's a theory that Human/Koopa are scum together, and that the plan was for Koopa to sheep me, and Human go against me, hoping to cause an Italiano vs FL scenario with the two scum in the backseats, but i'd rather just work with a scumKoopa in that regard.

Koopa trying to get JV started makes sense as scum in that scenario.

a possibility.

[ItalianoVD]

consider: when people post about people, it brings that person to the forefront of their mind, and they go into more depth on them -> what you call "wind blowing", I call natural human psychology. I am willing to listen to others.

I guess we can agree to disagree if you so choose.

Should I explicitly find you a wolf for suddenly pushing HEM

after it's become clear that no one else finds me wolfy

and FL stated a strong read on HEM as well as myself?

Bolded: I've been coming to that conclusion myself. Well I already stated that FL's case on HEM is solid in the midst of me catching up with the live posts. If it seemed like we were crossing in the wind then it wasn't intentional.

[ItalianoVD]

If it seemed like we were crossing in the wind then it wasn't intentional.

If you are town that is.

[ItalianoVD]

Bolded: I've been coming to that conclusion myself.

That's not really clear. What I mean to say is I've been coming to a conclusion that you may be town myself, not jumping on anyone's read.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, there was a disconnect when you were catching up, I could see Koopa gathering some off energy through that.

[ItalianoVD]

I gotta say, you feel very malleable as a player, like wherever the wind takes you, you'll just blow with it.

I agree with this, and I don't think it comes from scum in this situation. they've fought me with my push on you, and then my push on Human, but then ended up coming to agreement after discussion, which I think is townie.

That type of playstyle is very hard to pull off successfully as scum, and I don't think it's happening here, i think they're genuinely analyzing the game atm.

Yeah I get that and I've given that a thought, it's just koopa keeps pinging me as both scum and town.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.06

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-04-25 00:30:00).

VC

Flavor Leaf [2]:

Malakittens [26], humaneatingmonkey [265]

humaneatingmonkey [2]:

Flavor Leaf [273], ItalianoVD [340]

Malakittens [1]:

Roden [70]

KittyTacky [1]:

Scorpious [6]

Not Known 15 [1]:

JacksonVirgo [138]

JacksonVirgo [1]:

koopashell [324]

Not voting [5]:

MalcolmTucker, Facebones, Saladman27, Not Known 15 [149], KittyTacky [178]

mod notes

Saladman27 has (expired on 2022-04-16 15:00:00) to pick up their Role PM before I start looking for a replacement.

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Spoiler:

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Italiano

I guess it doesn't ever hurt to crank up the heat. Scorpious was more a "do something" vote anyways.

Explain.

I counter with: Keep reading.

Always happens..

I react to a post before reading the one below.. my fault

[Malakittens]

So got work early in the morning, but will catch up in AM.

Don’t miss me being a night owl too much ok.

Xoxo

[KittyTacky]

Spoiler: scorpius

I’m ready to 1v1 someone who was on a Mala wagon.

Been feeling some scum energy getting pushed into that direction.

Where shall i pounce

Why don't you just do it instead of posturing about it? I've been waiting for you to actually do something like this for a bit now.

I’d rather see how people react to me saying it than do it

I think it’s fair, I would be more inclined at this early stage to think the voters were more sus than the votee..

based on?

Experience.. of course I have no hard data, but how many times is the first wagon flipping scum? It’s a crapshoot. So I go off of what I know.

Now granted it’s 2 votes, but steam will pick up on it and you’ll find at least on scum to push on D2.

I am also still learning this blurry line that used to be RVS in these games… like is it still a thing, is it not? Is it now optional? Like I’m really confused..

The first wagon is usually on flimsy logic, but this one isn't IMO.

[JacksonVirgo]

Confident in this vote.

How confident would you say you are? I think the Mala vote was very opportunistic but they've only made about four posts so far.

Probably shouldn't have said "confident", but I am more confident than anybody else given it's early day 1.

[JacksonVirgo]

It feels like they're trying to justify themselves sheeping a vote.

[JacksonVirgo]

it’d be a tie for 1st place between Flavor Leaf and JV for best response.

Which one of mine :p

[KittyTacky]

Like Italiano has a lot of shade thrown at Mala, *however*, he is pushing elsewhere instead, rather than pursuing a read that in words is their strongest wolfread, when you look at the things Italiano has said.

Also this world I feel that Salad slot also fits in as the 3rd wolf - in which case I need to wait for Salad to post here to see how they act.

Now that you mentyion it, yeah I agree and I'm willing to sheep this.
VOTE: ItalianoVD

[JacksonVirgo]

if you're looking for scummy positioning around Malakittens, you should take a look at MalcolmTucker. Absolute fencesitting.

Although I do not agree that Malakittens should be anyone's top townread. I still think that early slips like that could be valid, and they shouldn't be townread just because they were the first wagon of the game. I do not think Roden and ItalianoVD are scum just because they are pushing Malakittens. So if you have something to say about these slots, we'll listen.

Similarly I am sus of JacksonVirgo's townread of me — I don't think we've played enough that he can make such a confident call.

I do agree that NK15 and Koopashell's play compels me to read them as town.

It wasn't a meta-read on you. It's a mind-meld kinda of read on you. And from my experience, that has never failed me but firsts always happen just not willing to bet on it failing D1.

[JacksonVirgo]

I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.

What's a chainsaw? I saw that mentioned twice now

[KittyTacky]

Mala and Italiano are both scummy to me right meow.

[KittyTacky]

Also Mala has not once reacted to Italiano's shade against her, but has replied to mostly everyone pushing her otherwise.

This is my issue. I've given her plenty of things to respond to and I only get a joke. I think?

But you said 224 just before?

[KittyTacky]

im not seeing what you're seeing when you mean both kitty's posts are fairly pure tonally that i can dismiss them as town, and i think scum would be more trigger happy to give that assessment.
so now i'm asking you how you reached that judgment.

i also think malakittens is addressing JV as if they already know JV is town and is trying to get their trust. that's a very weak read tho, and it seems like there's background there.

this could be an anti partner from JV-Human to shade onto Malakittens.

Human had early scum reads on Mala/Koopa, but switched when they needed to go against me.

This could be a Kitty-Human pairing post.

I'm unsure on HEM but I'm tyown.

[KittyTacky]

Mala villagery tho, why do you want to vote only villagers mr monkey?

villagey how?

That entrance is fairly pure tonally, what's bad about it?

That it assumes that FL is town?

it should always just be assumed i'm town

Flavor Leaf
Most Cunning Manipulator
Don Corleone
A guy smoking a cigarette rolling his eye on you
Location: San Francisco

Yep. I can trust this guy.

while this is a little nitpicky, I can see scum throwing this line to add just a little bit extra paranoia to my slot, even though my line was pretty throwaway ego joke.

Wouldnt use it as a main thing ever, but just a few extra sprinkles to the scum case sundae.

Joes are NAI.

[KittyTacky]

*jokes lmao

[Flavor Leaf]

Mala villagery tho, why do you want to vote only villagers mr monkey?

villagey how?

That entrance is fairly pure tonally, what's bad about it?

That it assumes that FL is town?

it should always just be assumed i'm town

Flavor Leaf
Most Cunning Manipulator
Don Corleone
A guy smoking a cigarette rolling his eye on you
Location: San Francisco

Yep. I can trust this guy.

while this is a little nitpicky, I can see scum throwing this line to add just a little bit extra paranoia to my slot, even though my line was pretty throwaway ego joke.

Wouldnt use it as a main thing ever, but just a few extra sprinkles to the scum case sundae.

Joes are NAI.

They dont have to be, I also actively stated I was being nitpicky with it too. odd choice to defend the slot there

[Flavor Leaf]

I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.

What's a chainsaw? I saw that mentioned twice now

Player A (Town) pushes Player B (Scum).

Player C (Scum) pushes Player A. <--- that's the chainsaw. They defend their partner by attacking the one thats pushing their partner.

[Scorpious]

I believe that Human is attempting a White Knight pocket attempt on Italiano to lower my presence in the game as scum.

It isn't a chainsaw.

What's a chainsaw? I saw that mentioned twice now

Player A (Town) pushes Player B (Scum).

Player C (Scum) pushes Player A. <--- that's the chainsaw. They defend their partner by attacking the one thats pushing their partner.

Thanks for explaining this .