Mini 659: The Neighborhood- Game over on Day 6

[Rashiminos]

crywolf seems to be following my vote around...

[crywolf20084]

I'm really not. I've had my own arguments that are seperate than yours, and besides, I don't think you're considering putting it on DR for pressure, are you?

[Rashiminos]

Link/quote them to refresh my memory...

[crywolf20084]

M4yhem, did you get any information about elias' nightchoice on N1?

Strange that the vig did not make a choice on night 1?

I find both these comments a little odd. I think it is pretty obvious there was no vigilante kill on n1 (he had already mentioned it anyway).

I also would not expect a vigilante to kill every night - and typically not on n1.

I agree with this statment a lot. N1 is deffinately not the night to be killing somebody as a Vig.

crywolf: big city doc
m4yhem: florist/vig
Rashiminos: crossing guard / vanilla
TonyMontana: Ice Cream Man / tracker
Oman: Librarian / watcher
bionicchop2: Game Shop Owner / vanilla
fhqwhgads: Newspaper Editor / vanilla
Ythill: Postman / vanilla

My thoughts on the claimed power roles.

M4yhem: I'm inclined to believe it, but i really don't have any other sort of a read on him.

Tony: Now I don't believe him. Mostly because I don't think he ever answered the question who was your targe N1.

Oman: I'm not sure about him, and it'll be hard if he does get replaced because of the role and the volume of information we have in this game right now.

As for the vanilla's I think we are very vanilla heavy, and that is where I would like to start looking for the scum. Much easier to hide as a vanilla than a power role, IMO.

The vanilla at the top of my list is Fhq. There's been something about him in the last couple posts that have screamed, I'm hiding something from you. Don't know what yet, but I would love to find out. Thus,

Vote: Fhqwhgads

My only thing that I really want answered is for Tony.

What did you exactly mean when you said I had a front row of Peg's death.

I said *I* had front row of peg's death.

That's what I meant. that **You** had a front row. Still answer the question. I would like to know more about it.

Right now there seems to be just idle chatter going on.

Well it may be idle chatter here, but I keep thinking about Tony's claim. I just don't believe it. Mainly because he's been asked several times to give some of the supposed "Flavor" and hasn't.

Vote: TonyMontana

Maybe this well help get some of the delayed flavor out.

Rashiminos: crossing guard / vanilla
bionicchop2: Game Shop Owner / vanilla
fhqwhgads: Newspaper Editor / vanilla
Ythill: Postman / vanilla

So this is the list of nilla's and my thought's on them.

Rash- Clearly I've though he's pro-town this whole game because I have protected him both nights. To me I think is the least likely to come up scum. So...

Rashiminos: crossing guard / vanilla

bionicchop2: Game Shop Owner / vanilla
fhqwhgads: Newspaper Editor / vanilla
Ythill: Postman / vanilla

Next up is Bionic. The only reason why I can think of wanting to lynch Bionic is an OMGUS for the persitant attacks on me. I can say the same thing about Ythill, though with a bit of a twist. Though is flavor seems to be okay, I'm more worried that he's trying to use me as a scapegoat. I must say he's been persistant, and hasn't varied much from me, but that might just be it. With that:

Rashiminos: crossing guard / vanilla
bionicchop2: Game Shop Owner / vanilla

fhqwhgads: Newspaper Editor / vanilla

Ythill: Postman / vanilla

As for Fhq, his posts have been sketchy... And I'm not sure if we'd hit anything if we lynched him or not.

Rashiminos: crossing guard / vanilla
bionicchop2: Game Shop Owner / vanilla

fhqwhgads: Newspaper Editor / vanilla

Ythill: Postman / vanilla

Italized is a maybe. Bolded is who I will probably go with, because I know I won't be able to convince the rest of you to go with my gut feeling on Tony.

Thoughts??

Unvote/Vote: Ythill.

After some thinking, I think we'd get the most of this vanilla lynch, but I could revert to fhq as stated before.

And I think this is the third person I voted today…I really don’t know why I’m so indecisive today….

I would assume that at least one of Wolf and Oman are telling the truth.

What happens if you lynch me, and find out I'm telling the truth? What would that do to your claim with your logic?

unvote/Vote: TonyMontana

If Oman's claim is false, well DR's claim is false, what would happen to you? Tracker is something I've never seen without the Watcher.

Right here I was so dually corrected about how Tracker can be found as an independent role. Though I still don’t believe Tony’s claim.

I think that's my posting history for this day.

[crywolf20084]

Edit: Yeah I didn't miss anything. THis is my posting history for today.

[Rashiminos]

Interesting...

Now I shall propose something new:

Lynching wolfscum.

crywolf's vote in 803 follows bionic's vote in 799, along with tacit acceptance of the lynch "vanilla" idea.

There's still that same hard to believe "I protected Rash twice" stuff. Scarce mention of bionic or Ythill, and a

vague

reference to some thing in fhq's previous two posts (what? why?)

Vote on Tony is a little better, but then there's post 878, with more vague remarks about fhq's sketchiness (how? why?)

Then out of nowhere, she votes Ythill (conveniently after I did). Ythill is just another "vanilla," after all.

Oh wait, Rash voted Tony. Quick Quick, vote change!

I agree.

##Unvote: TonyMontana
##Vote: crywolf20084

[Elias_the_thief]

At deadline I would be willing to vote either Tony, Oman, or Wolf. Omans behavior was pretty scummy, but its also characteristic of him. But his confidence of Darox town just seems so....off.

[Rashiminos]

I kNOw ExacTly wHat you mEaN. Got It?

[Ythill]

##Unvote: TonyMontana
##Vote: crywolf20084

Finally...

I'll take three more of the same. We've got 47 hours.

[TonyMontana]

At deadline I would be willing to vote either Tony, Oman, or Wolf. Omans behavior was pretty scummy, but its also characteristic of him. But his confidence of Darox town just seems so....off.

So the new plan is to lynch a power-role?
I could go for wolf, but I'm sticking to the nolynch strategy for now...

[gorckat]

Vote Count

(5 to lynch)

No Lynch (2):

bionic, Tony

crywolf (2):

Ythill, Rashiminos

Tony:

crywolf

bionic:

fhqwhgads

Not voting (2):

Elias, Dead Rikimaru

[bionicchop2]

Ythill - if Crywolf turns up town at some point during this game, you will need to recall your own L-3 theory.

[Ythill]

I wouldn't be voting her if I thought she was going to turn up town. On the off chance that happens, I'll suppose I'll deal with it then.

Why the preemptive argument?

[bionicchop2]

I wouldn't be voting her if I thought she was going to turn up town. On the off chance that happens, I'll suppose I'll deal with it then.

Why the preemptive argument?

I just noticed the vote count which was posted right before I mad my comment. Also, with the deadline coming up, it seems like a perfect chance for mafia to jump on and quick lynch.

Add to that the recent trend of power roles playing poorly, combined with active deadline participation from Wolf, I have started to get a tingle in my gut telling me to start thinking of the possibility of Wolf being town. There is also something about Oman's claim which bugged me and I am going to find it right now to make sure my thoughts on it are known before the day ends.

[bionicchop2]

Librarian. I see people come through every day and can check their reading records.

Watcher.

Can we wait until later to do targets we may out something we don't need to.

The last part is what has been bugging me. I can't tell if I am just reading into it too much.

It felt like he was waiting to make sure his target claims and results didn't conflict with something someone else claimed. When he first posted this, I thought he was going to reveal he saw somebody visit someone and he was waiting to see if that person had a claim to match it (otherwise they could be a scum power role). It turned out none of his targets had visitors, so his fear of revealing something seems a bit odd. On top of this, he claimed after we already had claims (with targets) from a vig, doc and tracker. I have been giving Oman/DR a townie pass since they tend to play a little more active and aggressive as scum, but I am 2nd guessing this.

[Elias_the_thief]

We may out something we don't need to does seem like a weak excuse, especially with other results claimed already. I still suspect his day 1 behavior...I think I'll

vote: DR

[fhqwhgads]

I've got a funny feeling this day is going to end just like the last. I hate being picked off one by one by scum.

We need some direction and I'm still not buying no lynch.

Unvote, vote: crywolf

[Dead Rikimaru]

I haven't finished reading, but I antecipate I won't have time to finish in time.

I see it's between No lynch and crywolf, and since I think No lynch is always bad I will go and

vote: crywolf

[TonyMontana]

I see it's between No lynch and crywolf, and since I think No lynch is always bad I will go and

Really? Always bad?

[gorckat]

Vote Count

(5 to lynch)

crywolf (4):

Ythill, Rashiminos, fhqwhgads, Dead Rikimaru

No Lynch (2):

bionic, Tony

Tony:

crywolf

Dead Rikimaru:

Elias

Not voting (0)

[bionicchop2]

You know it is a bad lynch when the guy who hasn't read yet jumps on to put the player at L-1 in an end game situation.

Since Tony posted and could have hammered, I can be sure he is town if cry ends up being town.

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Vote Count (5 to lynch)

crywolf (4): Ythill, Rashiminos, fhqwhgads, Dead Rikimaru
No Lynch (2): bionic, Tony
Tony: crywolf
Dead Rikimaru: Elias

Not voting (0)
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***WARNING BELLS***

This vote count should be a huge warning not to hammer. Maybe there is bussing going on, but more likely is that Cry is town. 4 players are not voting for wolf (obv) - wolf, tony, elias and myself.

I am pretty convinced all 3 scum are voting right now, but 2 minimum. I have said before I think Elias is town. I highly doubt SK and he is the only one claiming a kill. I don't doubt his claim right now. Again, Tony could have hammered and I was feeling like the tracker claim was probably the other power role I felt confident with. Cry obviously won't vote for herself and I have made my feelings known about lynching today. Even if you think I am scum, it should be pretty clear cry has scum on her wagon. This is far from an ideal bussing situation, so that tingle in my gut is now much stronger.

DR has jumped up my scummy list with the vote they placed.

[bionicchop2]

cry - I know your vote is on Tony, but if you are town you should realize that Tony is town by not hammering you (which ends the game if you are town) and you can feel confident we have a tracker. If you are scum, then this doesn't mean much.

[TonyMontana]

You know it is a bad lynch when the guy who hasn't read yet jumps on to put the player at L-1 in an end game situation.
[...]
DR has jumped up my scummy list with the vote they placed.

Yeah, with the only reason given that nolynch is always bad.
If wolf is a doc, then we lose. I'd say nolynch > that risk.

[crywolf20084]

cry - I know your vote is on Tony, but if you are town you should realize that Tony is town by not hammering you (which ends the game if you are town) and you can feel confident we have a tracker.

Unvote

Hey DR, can you give us those people that Oman watched, because I don't remember him ever doing so.

[bionicchop2]

If anybody besides DR answers that, I will be very sad.