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[humaneatingmonkey]

can you help me read tictac better? i have townvibes, but i haven't seen anything town-indicative. but you seem to believe he's town enough to sheep his read.

[humaneatingmonkey]

how does everyone feel about {Roden, ShadowGirl, ChaosOmega}

i have no read on shadowgirl nor chaosomega and would rather vote roden.

i can also be persuaded on roden's alignment.

[humaneatingmonkey]

although I agree that ChaosOmega's E-2 is +town, but it could also just as easily be scum.

[Not Known 15]

how does everyone feel about {Roden, ShadowGirl, ChaosOmega}

i have no read on shadowgirl nor chaosomega and would rather vote roden.

i can also be persuaded on roden's alignment.

although I agree that ChaosOmega's E-2 is +town, but it could also just as easily be scum.

I don't like that last post.

[Dwlee99]

okay why am i scum

I made no posts between these two. Koba just made a joke about not listening to other people at all when I asked them to consider they could be wrong :^)

Do you mind giving me your current reads of the players (town/scum/null)?

@tictac: Do you mind giving me your thoughts on my other post to you, re: Meuh?

HEM/Gamma scum

NK/Marci/Koba one scum

this feels linked. can you walk me through?

keep seeing that i'm linked with Gamma somehow. curious if there's really something there.

I had a thought that HEM's read on me going from null -> town without me posting was really weird

hey

Somebody mentioned earlier that Dwlee is good about self-image stuff as town and I agree there. Dwlee's town and scum play isn't quite night and day, but I feel that they could've easily handled it better if they were scum.

dwlee is very good at image management. i dont buy that as scum, he blunders immediately in koba's hood when koba jokes about being traitor and here when he immediately picks a fight with Koba, Testarossa and you.

Dwlee, I am curious for your thoughts on this argument

Do you agree with this? Is it a good reason to townread you?

I think it's a decent reason, yea. I think I am more "polished" as scum

what the fuck

Was this the reason you changed your read on me w/o me posting? I thought that came after

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes

[Dwlee99]

Oh also no not linked. I don't think I've observed many things in the way of associatives beyond maybe a lack of interaction between you two??

[Dwlee99]

Okay my reasoning is kinda dumb then lmao
UNVOTE:
Y'know Koba had multiple days to tell me how my thing made no sense but I don't think they even bothered reading it

[Dwlee99]

Also I told Koba this already but today is my best friend's birthday so I won't be around much

[humaneatingmonkey]

I don't like that last post.

i get what you mean

but i feel like i already identified who i think is town, and im p confident in this block
those outside of these brackets, i think i dont want to leave d1.

and although chaosomega seems like the E-2 was 2 ballsy 4 scum, it could just be scum.
but again, i have no strong reads on either shadowgirl or chaosomega and im down to wagon these slots
although i like roden to be the actual person to go.

[ShadowGirl]

ShadowGirl, do you still want #634 answered?

Yes, if you can give me your thoughts on my notes about you that would be great.

although I agree that ChaosOmega's E-2 is +town, but it could also just as easily be scum.

What makes you lean for it be more likely town than scum?

Also, how do feel about Roden's current actions (post-GL defense)?

wont lynch today
DkKoba
Dwlee99
Meuh
GuiltyLion
marcistar
tictac
ChaosOmega
ShadowGirl

i dont know how to read this
Not Known 15

willing to lynch
Gamma Emerald
Roden

can you drive me to that conclusion as well? i personally think i'm not seeing the confident scumhunting Gamma that I usually see in D1, and there wasn't any effort to sort my slot (which he usually starts with). also think that E-1 was blatantly anti-town.

how does everyone feel about {Roden, ShadowGirl, ChaosOmega}

i have no read on shadowgirl nor chaosomega and would rather vote roden.

i can also be persuaded on roden's alignment.

i get what you mean

but i feel like i already identified who i think is town, and im p confident in this block
those outside of these brackets, i think i dont want to leave d1.

and although chaosomega seems like the E-2 was 2 ballsy 4 scum, it could just be scum.
but again, i have no strong reads on either shadowgirl or chaosomega and im down to wagon these slots
although i like roden to be the actual person to go.

Why is Gamma going from willing to eliminate today to not on this list of people you want to wagon since they are/were your number 2 scumread? Has something dramatically changed of your read in them in one page?

[humaneatingmonkey]

yes meuh showed me gamma's posts in isolation, and i buy meuh's read.

[humaneatingmonkey]

What makes you lean for it be more likely town than scum?

because i think the wifom pendulums between

is chaosomega lurking scum waiting for a wagon to e-2 and reverse-engineering a scumread from that — which means a quick wolfy pop-in vote and overly-described justification, then lurk back in — risking being blatantly openly scummy

to

is chaosomega town finding GuiltyLion scummy and voting there

you know funny thing, i started this post wanting to justify that CO is town. but the more i think about ChaosOmega, the more I think he's scum. i need more quality time there.

[ShadowGirl]

yes meuh showed me gamma's posts in isolation, and i buy meuh's read.

What makes you confident that Meuh is town (and will wholly agree with their take) considering you thought they were sus a couple pages ago for the same reason you think Roden is? What makes Meuh's reasoning for being against the GL wagon different than Roden's to give you such opposite reads on them?

lurking Roden and Meuh suddenly pops out after GL gets sent to E-1.

Meuh and Roden never explained what makes GL so obvtown

[humaneatingmonkey]

Also, how do feel about Roden's current actions (post-GL defense)?

he went on to push me for weak ass reasons and honestly, i was not convinced he was town. i was giving him the benefit of the doubt because Meuh laid it out that only town!Roden would defend any!GL there. i dont think that's true anymore.

[humaneatingmonkey]

What makes you confident that Meuh is town (and will wholly agree with their take) considering you thought they were sus a couple pages ago for the same reason you think Roden is? What makes Meuh's reasoning for being against the GL wagon different than Roden's to give you such opposite reads on them?

Meuh had a different angle than Roden din. Meuh's was purely gamestate — Roden believes GL to be obvtown.

I also just townread Meuh's tone and I don't detect deception in her posts.

[ShadowGirl]

Meuh had a different angle than Roden din. Meuh's was purely gamestate — Roden believes GL to be obvtown.

I also just townread Meuh's tone and I don't detect deception in her posts.

Is this not a defence that Roden thinks GL was purely town based on game state ?
Or are you reading into it differently than me?

Wtf is this garbage wagon? Is there any particular reason you guys want to vote out the only person keeping the game alive? Like do none of you see that the further this wagon builds the more quiet this game gets?

Game state alone shows that this is a wagon on town

and that scum are just waiting for town to hammer for an easy Day 1.

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

can you tell us about dwlee in your hood?

Unvoting Dkkoba when GammaEmerald gives townread on them – before they have answered what happened in hood topic ?

I began to townread Koba when I become convinced that they weren't faking their early game. I also townread their tone and detected no deception in their follow-ups.

Koba also the type of slot to become wackier as the day progresses so alignment will reveal later.

Gamma what are you doing? you're doing nothing.

But you just agreed and unvoted based on what they said on page 8 of read of Dkkoba and unvoted possibly due to that(?) – also DwLee had not posted in awhile, so why not call them out too?

Gamma cases people and tunnels there for a while. That was the towngame that I knew him by. That wasn't happening today.

Still isn't — but I could be wrong that it's a tell. Gamma could just have changed playstyles and shit. I'm sure someone would have noticed by now if I was right.

yes. i even think Dwlee is town.

Why not calling out DwLee on inactivity - and townreading them, which is based only on read of past game - even though you did so to Gamma who had posted before you had said they were doing?

i do not know if i understand the question, I'll answer the question i think i'm being asked.

i thought and thought about Dwlee's slot and the reaction test. i eventually decided that the dwlee that kicked my ass in that one game couldn't have suddenly become a clumsy limbait in rvs.

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay i found the post that roden was talking about

oh that

that doesnt exactly explain your progression to townreading GL unless I assume you just binned GL for being loud.

why did you find GL obvtown? Have you played against GL scum before, actually?

Nah I don't bin anyone for being loud, or at least not in a vacuum. You can be loud and still be scum; it's a collection of factors that matters to me.

I find GL obvtown because of the game state and the speed/randomness of his wagon. I've only played with him once though, and we were TvT there, so I'm not using meta here to read him. He does feel pretty much the same as that town game though.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Is this not a defence that Roden thinks GL was purely town based on game state ?
Or are you reading into it differently than me?

i keep seeing him say that GL was obvtown, and it registered as he had other reasons.

now that i saw this post, i understand that he just thinks GL town for the gamestate.

[humaneatingmonkey]

where's your notes shadowgirl

[ShadowGirl]

i keep seeing him say that GL was obvtown, and it registered as he had other reasons.

now that i saw this post, i understand that he just thinks GL town for the gamestate.

If that totally changes your read on them, can give an update of your willing to eliminate D1 list / your scumread list?

where's your notes shadowgirl

Can you elaborate on the question? You mean like my reads list?

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'll think about it. but after this conversation, maybe i need a conversation with ChaosOmega.

no like you asked me to respond to your notes right? where can i find it

[ShadowGirl]

i'll think about it. but after this conversation, maybe i need a conversation with ChaosOmega.

no like you asked me to respond to your notes right? where can i find it

Oh you just answered them lol it was post 634.

how does everyone feel about {Roden, ShadowGirl, ChaosOmega}

i have no read on shadowgirl nor chaosomega and would rather vote roden.

i can also be persuaded on roden's alignment.

although I agree that ChaosOmega's E-2 is +town, but it could also just as easily be scum.

I don't like that last post.

What don't you like about it? What are your current feelings on Chaos?

[Gamma Emerald]

slight townvibes from shadowgirl's recent posting