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[Greeting]

We really need a VC..

I might even be at 4 right now..

I'm on it.

[Scorpious]

We really need a VC..

I might even be at 4 right now..

I'm on it.

no worries, yeah. Im at 4

[Scorpious]

Galron is your vote on me real or RVS?

[Galron]

Galron is your vote on me real or RVS?

I don't even know right now I'm so far behind.

[Scorpious]

Galron is your vote on me real or RVS?

I don't even know right now I'm so far behind.

fair

[Greeting]

Votecount 1.7

Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull - On The Floor

(2011)

Commentary: Queen of bad rom-coms and dance-pop united with Mr. Worldwide (not the first nor the last time) to make this catchy hit song.

Scorpious

(4):

Galron

,

Andresvmb

,

KittyTacky

,

Nero Cain

KittyTacky

(2):

PookyTheMagicalBear

,

geraintm

Andresvmb

(1):

MalcolmTucker

geraintm

(1):

Rathe

Not_Mafia

(1):

Not_Mafia

Rathe

(1):

Save The Dragons

Not Voting

(3):

angela

,

Scorpious

,

Morning Tweet

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 ends in: (expired on 2022-03-27 01:39:00).

[Scorpious]

VOTE: kittytacky

Explain.

This entire exchange is bizarre but I'm fairly sure angela and Scorpious are not both scum at least. Smells slightly of TvT.

Can you flesh that out "smells slightly of TvT?" There's a bit to unpack there.

It's a gut read. Not a strong one but it reads more like a town misunderstanding than mafia trying to discredit someone. And in any case it's very hard to see it as SvS.

No seriously. "This player is putting effort into the game, that's worthy of a vote." Christ.

VOTE: geraintm

the more kitty talks about people suspecting him the more defensive he gets n the more suspicious i get

The cardinal sin of defending yourself when pushed...

VOTE: Scorpious

these are just so weird..

[Rathe]

what's your read of me

so u do wanna ask me questions

[Rathe]

well u only been going after me which feels very mafia

[Rathe]

n everyone that i feel may be mafia or im kinda suspicious of u think r town or pull attn from

[Rathe]

geraintm malcolmtucker morning tweet kittytacky n notmafia

[Rathe]

ur tone sounds kinda the same as a game i played with u but ur actions feel different

[MalcolmTucker]

Sorry just caught up. I generally agree with Rathe's post a few pages back that it's fairly likely mafia are being quiet so far - a lot of the arguments between players feel like they're going in half-hearted, half of them are barely even about this game and we're getting little info.

It also doesn't feel like we're regularly or even semi-regularly seeing new wagons properly pushed or suggested beyond occasional notions - I reckon there's an ok chance mafia are fairly happy with the gamestate right now and don't see the need to mess around with.

I'm getting town vibes from Scorpious a good bit, I don't think their posts are perfect but for the most part they seem genuine in a way I don't reckon is too mafia at the moment.

[MalcolmTucker]

I'm somewhat torn on Andre. I thought their initial replies after the first accusations against them were panicking in a way that felt unnatural. Their fairly abrasive playing style after that though started to feel more townie insofar as they appeared to be drawing a lot of attention to themselves when it probably wasn't to their benefit. But as they went on I don't like how they kept on going round in circles about how their play was being perceived by other players - eventually felt like it was conveniently distracting from the game itself in a way that wasn't needed. If you're town then you don't always need to have the last word in a situation like that.

[Scorpious]

Every next Day Phase lasts 7 days (168 hours), except for the phase in which the town faction should find themselves in ELo (“eliminate or lose”) should that happen in the course of this game – that Day Phase will last 5 days (120 hours).

is vengeful

a normal role?

It is. Not sure how that relates to the part of the rules you quoted, but I very much believe so.

won't the timer tell us if we have a vengeful?

It is. Not sure how that relates to the part of the rules you quoted, but I very much believe so.

won't the timer tell us if we have a vengeful?

It shouldn’t, no.

but isn't it not actually elo if there's a vengeful

like 7 alive 3 mafia 1 vengeful

is only elo if we count eliminating the vengeful as part of 'eliminating correctly'

which is generally not the interpretation of eliminating correctly, which would be eliminating mafia

so would likely be 7 days at timer with 7 alive 3 mafia 1 vengeful instead of 5

but also unlikely to be relevant, so

I'd like two things explained here please.

Why was this even brought up?

And how did id disappear so quickly, like this is really odd for post #7 and it just seems to have gone under everyones radar.
Andres went as far as to call it scummy even,and just dropped it..for no apparent reason.


Then Angela starts to question my reasoning for asking Andres about his roll rate.Which,lets face it. At first glance anyone would question. And gives me the option to answer or wait.

Then starts really questioning me around 73. And goes immedietly to defending him. Then she starts to question me about why I thought his 25 and 27 pinged me. I told her,she defends him again,,,

Then in 155 She doubles down defending when Kitty questions her,and she claims we are "both assigning a narrative".. Why that accusation Angela? stating observations are not "assigning narratives"


I''m %100 what this is :

actually i think you and kittytacky are town so i guess i have thoughts

Are you going to give us some insight into these “thoughts”?

quoting this so i don’t forget it happened

In my experience,questions that have pre-built answers into them tend to come from scum:

VOTE: KT

hm

are you thinking, {not mafia, kittytacky, scorpious}

or

do you think kittytacky more likely trying to pocket scorpious by doing the aligning self with thing (though scorpious also didn't seem suspicious of kittytacky doing this,

but it would also be completely possible that town!scorpious would think kittytacky happened to be aligning with simply because agreed with and if town!scorpious then might even lean towards town!kittytacky based on this

and! also doesn't seem impossible that that is the correct interpretation anyway)

or

do you just think kittytacky independently scummy

This is real stretchy and for somoni who is "bad a communication" as they dubbed themselves, you're quite clear here. As was I nobody on this layer list NEEDS to discuss N_M.

This is a moot point.

This is the last time I’m accepting N_M conversation as potential town content..

Anything beyond this will be considered scum filler by me. There is way to much discussion about a slot many of us know is kinda just there. Deal with it…

As I said. NOTHING they do is AI.. expect a quick hammer, maybe a quip or two(sometimes insightful) and a “mum” Joke here an there. that’s it …

No more N_M discussion please, unless it’s to vote.

but

how are you planning on sorting not mafia though?

are you just not? and you think that should be everyone's approach?

like not everyone talking about not mafia can possibly be mafia, so if your issue is that you think scums are likely hiding in that discussion, then having more discussion would help you identify those individuals, yes?

and if your worry is that too much focus is on not mafia and not enough focus is being put others, then engage people about those others?

or try to talk to those you feel are focusing on not mafia in lieu of other slots about other slots and so forth

like it's not like there has been no other content so if you want something else to be talked about, talk about it, try to talk to others about it, et cetera

like sure i can agree that i feel the game is generally lacking in sortable content from a lot of slots

but...

i really do not think the solution is to further discourage potentially sortable content

Angela disappears. Then BOOM, here comes Andres with me being scummy,for the SAME reasons ..

Has to be a connection here..

[Scorpious]

Either they are both scum setting up a mislim on me or Andres is scum basically paraphrasing Angela in his "catch up" all while using the same reasons she presented to call me scum.

Regardles. I think we have one here.

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Galron

[angela]

@scorpious

why didn’t you ask questions regarding my entrance earlier

and

i already answered the why ?? but you just decided not to quote that one for some reason?

[angela]

angela I’m not going to lie - I find your concern for disclosure around a Vengeful role Scummy. The impact from there being a Vengeful role in the game is that the Scum can’t be certain that a coordinated hammer would end the game in what’s presumed to be ELo. Other than that, there’s no true downside for Town unless the Vengeful Town, if it exists, shoots incorrectly prior to Endgame. At Endgame, there isn’t much of a downside to shooting incorrectly since the game would’ve been lost if their role didn’t exist.

Having said that, I suspect you would have asked your Scum buddies these questions outside of this thread, so perhaps too brazen for Scum. I just don’t think this conversation is helpful for the Town.

it is something that interested me about the rules and i wanted to see if you'd engage with it because you had just mentioned the rules and i found it unlikely enough for it to actually be the case here to feel there was any risk to discuss

and!

it gives the mafias something to potentially worry about

[angela]

and no your questioning andresvmb mentioning roll rate still ???

as it was said in conversation and such and stuck out to me that you’d focus on it the way you did and wanted to see if i was missing something

[angela]

i am quite bad at communication yes not really sure what you’re even trying to say there

like do you think i am secretly good at communicating and lying about that??

like

…

[Scorpious]

@scorpious

why didn’t you ask questions regarding my entrance earlier

and

i already answered the why ?? but you just decided not to quote that one for some reason?

Fair, big posts are not easy for me, I'm surprised it was as coherent as it was.

But what I didn't quote has no bearing on what I'm saying tbh. I want to know how it just kinda got pushed away,then someone actually called you scummy for it,then just also backed away,for no reason..

As far as bringing it up now. I wanted to read the game and started at the begining,and this just happens to be at the very beginning.

[Scorpious]

and no your questioning andresvmb mentioning roll rate still ???

as it was said in conversation and such and stuck out to me that you’d focus on it the way you did and wanted to see if i was missing something

Stop defelcting please.

[Scorpious]

I'd like to know why you are so defensive of Andres..

Time to commute.

[angela]

like sure i was worried andresvmb may have been buddying me at one point but didn’t seem all that likely to me

and you thinking i’m potentially mafia for potentially being buddies and for the way i ask questions is …………?

like how would you weight ‘asks questions different from the way others do’

vs

everything else i’ve done this game

and come to the conclusion

this is mafia!!!