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[Andresvmb]

^to Scorpious.

[Scorpious]

I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..

i feel like,

your stance towards kitty has changed dramatically since i pointed out possible connection there

sure maybe coincidence but still pretty noteworthy to me

nope, I haven;t liked Kitty since the severe over reaction.

[angela]

u mean like a player that joins leading wagons for "pressure"? IDK if he has a history of doing that or not.

yeah this is more or less what i meant,

and it seems like the answer is 'not really' from an extremely cursory look at a couple games

at least not consistently

but still need to look at this more

[Morning Tweet]

I will read all of your posts carefully later though. all I'm saying is i am worried your disagreement is rooted in difference of approach rather than alignment

[Scorpious]

I did answer your question, btw. You asked why did you feel it was relevant to share my roll %? I answered that it was a joke. Multiple times now. You accused me of lying and saying that this was noted. You have yet to admit to being wrong about that. Which, btw, you obviously are. You have failed to explain the Scum motivation behind even thinking about lying about it being a real number.

I’m not sure why you’re dismissing all my arguments (which there are a few) as excrement. Why not engage with them one by one? The problem is you are being condescending in an attempt to diminish me, but you’re not admitting it. Which is weird. You had to write out that if I had rolled Scum once after rolling Town 10 times, that percentage is meaningfully smaller than 96.2%. Which assumes I wouldn’t have considered that if I was insisting on lying about the number (which is what I’m calling obnoxious). Unless I really lack in basic math skills, I would immediately know that if I have played whatever number of games, I would have had to roll Scum a really small number of times for it to work. At most 2 in ~50 games. So where is my error?

It wasnt a joke.. stop..

[angela]

I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..

i feel like,

your stance towards kitty has changed dramatically since i pointed out possible connection there

sure maybe coincidence but still pretty noteworthy to me

nope, I haven;t liked Kitty since the severe over reaction.

which was shortly following my pointing out the possible connection, shrug

[angela]

I did answer your question, btw. You asked why did you feel it was relevant to share my roll %? I answered that it was a joke. Multiple times now. You accused me of lying and saying that this was noted. You have yet to admit to being wrong about that. Which, btw, you obviously are. You have failed to explain the Scum motivation behind even thinking about lying about it being a real number.

I’m not sure why you’re dismissing all my arguments (which there are a few) as excrement. Why not engage with them one by one? The problem is you are being condescending in an attempt to diminish me, but you’re not admitting it. Which is weird. You had to write out that if I had rolled Scum once after rolling Town 10 times, that percentage is meaningfully smaller than 96.2%. Which assumes I wouldn’t have considered that if I was insisting on lying about the number (which is what I’m calling obnoxious). Unless I really lack in basic math skills, I would immediately know that if I have played whatever number of games, I would have had to roll Scum a really small number of times for it to work. At most 2 in ~50 games. So where is my error?

It wasnt a joke.. stop..

do you think

it wasn't said in conversation? like andresvmb wasn't the first to mention a % (pooky was)

and andresvmb's post was like a minute later

do you think andresvmb really thought

'this is an opportunity for me to show off how often i have rolled town in the past!!!! in order to be townread'

or

'oh weirdly enough i have this insane %'

[angela]

I dont this argument between scorpio and andre is particularly AI

hmm

It seems like the kind of thing where two players gset caught up on one another and it loses the game down the line

That or perhaps one is scum but I dont think it's because of anything they're talking abt. so hence, yeah

i guess to me it feels like, a really really bad angle

and it is difficult for me to see why you'd think that really really bad angle likely comes from town

[Scorpious]

I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..

i feel like,

your stance towards kitty has changed dramatically since i pointed out possible connection there

sure maybe coincidence but still pretty noteworthy to me

nope, I haven;t liked Kitty since the severe over reaction.

which was shortly following my pointing out the possible connection, shrug

I think you are mistaken. My reaction to Kitty was litterally the next post.

You had zero influence on that.

[angela]

I dont this argument between scorpio and andre is particularly AI

hmm

It seems like the kind of thing where two players gset caught up on one another and it loses the game down the line

That or perhaps one is scum but I dont think it's because of anything they're talking abt. so hence, yeah

i guess to me it feels like, a really really bad angle

and it is difficult for me to see why you'd think that really really bad angle likely comes from town

like i'm not saying really really bad angles never come from town (i am obviously extremely guilty of doing this myself at times)

but it seems weird to me for you to default to 'probably town'

[Scorpious]

I did answer your question, btw. You asked why did you feel it was relevant to share my roll %? I answered that it was a joke. Multiple times now. You accused me of lying and saying that this was noted. You have yet to admit to being wrong about that. Which, btw, you obviously are. You have failed to explain the Scum motivation behind even thinking about lying about it being a real number.

I’m not sure why you’re dismissing all my arguments (which there are a few) as excrement. Why not engage with them one by one? The problem is you are being condescending in an attempt to diminish me, but you’re not admitting it. Which is weird. You had to write out that if I had rolled Scum once after rolling Town 10 times, that percentage is meaningfully smaller than 96.2%. Which assumes I wouldn’t have considered that if I was insisting on lying about the number (which is what I’m calling obnoxious). Unless I really lack in basic math skills, I would immediately know that if I have played whatever number of games, I would have had to roll Scum a really small number of times for it to work. At most 2 in ~50 games. So where is my error?

It wasnt a joke.. stop..

do you think

it wasn't said in conversation? like andresvmb wasn't the first to mention a % (pooky was)

and andresvmb's post was like a minute later

do you think andresvmb really thought

'this is an opportunity for me to show off how often i have rolled town in the past!!!! in order to be townread'

or

'oh weirdly enough i have this insane %'

I don't like loaded multiple choice questions designed as jump offs for cases...

I do not feel it was a joke..

[Andresvmb]

I will read all of your posts carefully later though. all I'm saying is i am worried your disagreement is rooted in difference of approach rather than alignment

It really isn’t.

[angela]

I'm fairly confident that within a few posts Kitty will vote me..

i feel like,

your stance towards kitty has changed dramatically since i pointed out possible connection there

sure maybe coincidence but still pretty noteworthy to me

nope, I haven;t liked Kitty since the severe over reaction.

which was shortly following my pointing out the possible connection, shrug

I think you are mistaken. My reaction to Kitty was litterally the next post.

You had zero influence on that.

my post about possible connection was 230

preceding your turn on kittytacky, so i am not mistaken

however could be a coincidence, like i said

i do think it is noteworthy that you are connecting kittytacky and andresvmb right now when you did not really react to kittytacky agreeing with you about andresvmb earlier though

and kittytacky never really addressed why kittytacky agreed with this despite my multiple attempts at asking

[angela]

I don't like loaded multiple choice questions designed as jump offs for cases...

I do not feel it was a joke..

i mean, is your entire issue that andresvmb used the word 'joke' instead of saying the comment was 'made in jest'?

[Scorpious]

I don't like loaded multiple choice questions designed as jump offs for cases...

I do not feel it was a joke..

i mean, is your entire issue that andresvmb used the word 'joke' instead of saying the comment was 'made in jest'?

no my issue was I asked a simple question and was blasted for it. I actually thought it was long over when we talked about it, like I said. I never planned on making any serious case out of it. I was just curious.

Like Kitty, I think they are being very touchy.

[angela]

I don't like loaded multiple choice questions designed as jump offs for cases...

I do not feel it was a joke..

i mean, is your entire issue that andresvmb used the word 'joke' instead of saying the comment was 'made in jest'?

no my issue was I asked a simple question and was blasted for it. I actually thought it was long over when we talked about it, like I said. I never planned on making any serious case out of it. I was just curious.

Like Kitty, I think they are being very touchy.

to me it is like,

pooky asks me if i'm town

i am, pooky and i have been in multiple games recently with isis as mafia, each of us were partnered with her in one, and isis expressed frustration with rolling mafia again there, thus my comment about isis being jealous

even though across the board i do not roll town so so often not like andresvmb or anything, slightly under 80%

pooky says pooky is also jealous citing a mafia % that was likely more how it

feels

to pooky than actual %

then andresvmb shares percentage and says unbeatable

which to me felt pretty natural and i still don't really understand the connection to gambler's fallacy

but sure like i said earlier i can see you potentially being frustrated with being asked question about and then feeling like it has been made too much a deal of if you're town

but i guess that makes it difficult for me to see connection you're currently making to andresvmb's alignment

which like, would i prefer they interacted in a less standoffish way? yes, this is something i am trying to work on myself as well

but does that seem mafia indicative to me? no not really

[Save The Dragons]

i feel like we're getting distracted in crap that doesn't matter and ignoring what does matter like voting rathe

[Andresvmb]

@angela do you think I’m being overly touchy?

Assume for a minute I’m being prickly. Why would that make me Scum? It’s a bullshit accusation and Scorpious doesn’t strike me as engaging in good faith. The vote on me is horrible, and anyone with a brain can see that 348 is full of condescension. The spelling out of the math, after I had already stated that I keep a detailed account of all the games I play, I find so obnoxious. They’re pushing a bullshit case, wholesale dismissing my arguments as “excrement”, and just tossing out the word “flailing” in a blatant effort to diminish my standing.

[Andresvmb]

i feel like we're getting distracted in crap that doesn't matter and ignoring what does matter like voting rathe

What? How are we being distracted “in crap”? Please elaborate.

[angela]

i feel like we're getting distracted in crap that doesn't matter and ignoring what does matter like voting rathe

why rathe over, say, malcolmtucker?

[Save The Dragons]

because no one else is voting rathe

[Save The Dragons]

i feel like we're getting distracted in crap that doesn't matter and ignoring what does matter like voting rathe

why rathe over, say, malcolmtucker?

i dunno what to think of malcolm yet but i've liked his vibe so far

[Save The Dragons]

ok it's not crap per se but my eyes are glazing over and it's hard to focus on this "it's a joke it's not a joke it's a percent it's a lie it's not a lie" convo going on

[Scorpious]

I don't like loaded multiple choice questions designed as jump offs for cases...

I do not feel it was a joke..

i mean, is your entire issue that andresvmb used the word 'joke' instead of saying the comment was 'made in jest'?

no my issue was I asked a simple question and was blasted for it. I actually thought it was long over when we talked about it, like I said. I never planned on making any serious case out of it. I was just curious.

Like Kitty, I think they are being very touchy.

to me it is like,

pooky asks me if i'm town

i am, pooky and i have been in multiple games recently with isis as mafia, each of us were partnered with her in one, and isis expressed frustration with rolling mafia again there, thus my comment about isis being jealous

even though across the board i do not roll town so so often not like andresvmb or anything, slightly under 80%

pooky says pooky is also jealous citing a mafia % that was likely more how it

feels

to pooky than actual %

then andresvmb shares percentage and says unbeatable

which to me felt pretty natural and i still don't really understand the connection to gambler's fallacy

but sure like i said earlier i can see you potentially being frustrated with being asked question about and then feeling like it has been made too much a deal of if you're town

but i guess that makes it difficult for me to see connection you're currently making to andresvmb's alignment

which like, would i prefer they interacted in a less standoffish way? yes, this is something i am trying to work on myself as well

but does that seem mafia indicative to me? no not really

I strongly doubt the level of aggro is AI in any way..

[angela]

@angela do you think I’m being overly touchy?

Assume for a minute I’m being prickly. Why would that make me Scum? It’s a bullshit accusation and Scorpious doesn’t strike me as engaging in good faith. The vote on me is horrible, and anyone with a brain can see that 348 is full of condescension. The spelling out of the math, after I had already stated that I keep a detailed account of all the games I play, I find so obnoxious. They’re pushing a bullshit case, wholesale dismissing my arguments as “excrement”, and just tossing out the word “flailing” in a blatant effort to diminish my standing.

i think

like the way you are expressing things at times probably has a net negative effect on the game, for lack of a better way to phrase that,

but like i said doesn't necessarily seem like a mafia weighted thing to me

and scorpious approach has felt kinda ??? to me as well