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Post Post #4450 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:32 am

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In post 4427, VP Baltar wrote:Also, y'all need to sideline Nero in either case. He's tanking the game for town regardless of alignment and too many people, possibly scum, are encouraging that.
It's possible I guess. My reads aren't always great but they also aren't always wrong. You flipped town d1 and you are currently voting someone that's prob town, I think you are doing just as much, if not more damage than me. You've been mainly pushing in a frog/fire/tene/cape group but it seemed like you didn't push any of them particularly hard.
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Post Post #4451 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:42 am

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In post 4441, Cape90 wrote:
In post 4324, MathBlade wrote:VP and Galron scum team
If that's the scumteam, then me and Nero literally have 2 mafia neighbors :shifty:

I honestly find it less and less likely tbh thinking about it
I mean, I offered you that example of being in a 3 person hood in a mini normal with 2 scum meaning I was the only town in the hood so it doesn't feel like it would be a huge stretch for a hood to be 50/50. Also, Galron's vote meant Malcolm's wagon went over VP so it could easily be a S/S thing.
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Post Post #4452 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:50 am

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@Nero join my shiny Galron flash wagon please *puppy eyes*

It’s mason lead :)
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Post Post #4453 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:52 am

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my only other thought is someone like an Eyes , Yeet, Galron, Titus scumteam has a vested interest in keeping a poorly playing VP alive so I continue to tunnel him instead of switching my focus to them.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4454 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:53 am

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In post 4454, MathBlade wrote:@Nero join my shiny Galron flash wagon please *puppy eyes*
My vote is there in spirit but I want to see what happens first.
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Post Post #4455 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:59 am

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VOTE: galron

front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
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Post Post #4456 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:00 am

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In post 4455, Nero Cain wrote:my only other thought is someone like an Eyes , Yeet, Galron, Titus scumteam has a vested interest in keeping a poorly playing VP alive so I continue to tunnel him instead of switching my focus to them.
if that's the scum team, I'm not the one playing shitty there. They are defending me for town cred because of your bad play and the people sheeping you.
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Post Post #4457 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:02 am

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Yes, yes, everyone who suspects you is antitown and eats rocks for breakfast, get a new act.
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Post Post #4458 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:03 am

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let the little kid act out
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Post Post #4459 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:15 am

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In post 4458, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4455, Nero Cain wrote:my only other thought is someone like an Eyes , Yeet, Galron, Titus scumteam has a vested interest in keeping a poorly playing VP alive so I continue to tunnel him instead of switching my focus to them.
if that's the scum team, I'm not the one playing shitty there. They are defending me for town cred because of your bad play and the people sheeping you.
but that would also mean that they want you in the game b/c you are doing nothing but pushing town so...
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4460 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:16 am

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here is the VC before Enchant votes
In post 4352, Mizzytastic wrote:MalcolmTucker (6): Eyes without a face, Yeet, VP Baltar, April Ludgate, fireisredsir, Scorpious [E-3]
VP Baltar (5): tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, DeasVail, MathBlade
Scorpious (3): Cape90, Save the Dragons, Titus
Galron (1): Enchant

Not Voting (2): MalcolmTucker, Galron
here is what would have been the vc after enchant voted.


MalcolmTucker (6): Eyes without a face, Yeet, VP Baltar, April Ludgate, fireisredsir, Scorpious
VP Baltar (6): tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, DeasVail, MathBlade, Enchant
Scorpious (3): Cape90, Save the Dragons, Titus

Not Voting (2): MalcolmTucker, Galron


MalcolmTucker (7): Eyes without a face, Yeet, VP Baltar, April Ludgate, fireisredsir, Scorpious, Galron
VP Baltar (6): tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, DeasVail, MathBlade, Enchant
Scorpious (3): Cape90, Save the Dragons, Titus

Not Voting (1): MalcolmTucker

Galron vote gives Tucker the go ahead vote
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Post Post #4461 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:22 am

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In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Front half? I am town now?
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Post Post #4462 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 am

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In post 4462, Nero Cain wrote:Galron vote gives Tucker the go ahead vote
I really am still not sure that 2 scum are in Galron/VP
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Post Post #4463 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:26 am

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In post 4463, Cape90 wrote:
In post 4457, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Front half? I am town now?
I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.
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Post Post #4464 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:29 am

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In post 4461, Nero Cain wrote:but that would also mean that they want you in the game b/c you are doing nothing but pushing town so...
Nope, if you and that group IS all town, that means my green flip gives them a buffet of misyeets to plow through before any questions get asked. Yall have acted so sure I'm scum and built you're entire world views around that, that when I flip green you'll be easy pickings. The goal would be to defend me, but let me still die, which seemed quite likely at various points.
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Post Post #4465 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:38 am

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but Gal voting Malcolm to put him in the lead seems like the exact opposite of willing to let you die no? I mean maybe you could argue that its reverse psycology to make me think that's what he's doing but I'm a simpleton and just think he's voting Malcolm to "tighten the wagons up" b/c he's either scum with you or is defending you for the town cred or maybe he can't count. At any rate, I don't think either of us should live till endgame.
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Post Post #4466 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:48 am

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In post 4467, Nero Cain wrote:but Gal voting Malcolm to put him in the lead seems like the exact opposite of willing to let you die no? I mean maybe you could argue that its reverse psycology to make me think that's what he's doing but I'm a simpleton and just think he's voting Malcolm to "tighten the wagons up" b/c he's either scum with you or is defending you for the town cred or maybe he can't count. At any rate, I don't think either of us should live till endgame.
Then get on this wagon, champ.
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Post Post #4467 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 am

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in time
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Post Post #4468 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:23 am

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No, absolutely not on Galron.
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Post Post #4469 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:26 am

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y?
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Post Post #4470 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:28 am

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skitter was extremely town at start of D2, just trust me I doubt she plays it that way. I’m not 100% but I would say I have a pretty strong read there. Arguments for Galron scum are super weak. This is one of those flashwagons that is probably scum motivated taking advantage of confusion and scrambling
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Post Post #4471 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:28 am

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Who are the scum pushing him?
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Post Post #4472 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:33 am

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Idk tbh, maybe fire and less likely cape, I’m kind of going through my TL/TRs again because I have too many

Regardless of who the scum are, I disagree with the wagon.
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Post Post #4473 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:33 am

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I am *staunchly opposed* to the wagon
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Post Post #4474 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:37 am

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i don't see how anything skitter posted at the start of d2 is something she wouldn't do as maf

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