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Post Post #4375 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:22 am

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Malcolm is like starting to make me doubt my SR here, honestly
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Post Post #4376 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:23 am

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I would like maybe maybe consider switching to fire last minute but I just don’t think it’s practical

And I still don’t think Malcolm less scummy than fire yet
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Post Post #4377 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:26 am

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In post 4377, Yeet wrote:Malcolm is like starting to make me doubt my SR here, honestly
Funnily enough I'm feeling the same with you a little tiny bit in the last page. My overriding theory at the moment is increasingly that mafia are either content with the state of the game or have expected/feared a VP elimination if VP is one of them and don't want to rock the boat too much. A fundamental thing to be looking for right now is players who are fine with where the game is at, players who aren't fine with that, and why this is the case. VP's post about Fire above for example makes a solid point - if someone is either contributing less or contributing in a different way, we should be thinking as to why this is the case. Personally I like that, for as much as you've suspected me, you're at least thinking about your reads and asking for my views when you could just aggressively push the slot.
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Post Post #4378 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 4376, VP Baltar wrote:The big scum giveaway for fire is that he hasn't had any original ideas since like D1. He is clearly very smart, and smart people take actions outside the safety of what's popular. I could write a whole case about that, but I doubt that is worth my time at this point because the wagon isn't going to flip. When I'm dead, look at that very closely.
I need to have a proper look at their ISO later, I think Fire's definitely a clever player so very much not someone I'd want dead if town, but their reads during the initial heat on me felt very off in a way that felt out of character considering their approach to the game up until then.
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Post Post #4379 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:28 am

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I think Malc is town. Voting out a scummy ascetic claim is a good day 2 elim but I think voting out Scorp would be p good too but I don't think there's enough time for that.
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Post Post #4380 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:28 am

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In post 4376, VP Baltar wrote:The big scum giveaway for fire is that he hasn't had any original ideas since like D1. He is clearly very smart, and smart people take actions outside the safety of what's popular. I could write a whole case about that, but I doubt that is worth my time at this point because the wagon isn't going to flip. When I'm dead, look at that very closely.
i think my thoughts around the fua early day reaction were original. i think i was the first one to case you besides nero and he didnt really have a case, that's pretty original. i think the cape/malc idea that im currently working with is original. probs some other stuff idk im not gonna go back and look. if you mean "hasn't suspected anyone that hasn't already been suspected", then uh maybe thats cause everyone has been suspected at this point

i am blushing that you think i am very smart tho, idk if it's accurate but it's still appreciated
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Post Post #4381 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:34 am

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Who claimed ascetic?
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Post Post #4382 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:36 am

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I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.
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Post Post #4383 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:37 am

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Happy birthday bro.
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Post Post #4384 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:37 am

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right now tbh i am doubting myself immensely but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc since i have been thinking that it is for a while and have been thinking about most other players in terms of how they relate to those two slots. i know vp thinks that only maf are hesitant at the end but i know at least for me that is not at all the case, idk if I've ever voted someone out for non-mech-guilty reasons without some last minute doubts
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Post Post #4385 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:39 am

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VOTE: VP Baltar

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Post Post #4386 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:43 am

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In post 4386, fireisredsir wrote:but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc
What about players like eyes or scorpios, galron?
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Post Post #4387 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:44 am

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enchant?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4388 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:46 am

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In post 4389, Nero Cain wrote:enchant?
Yea?
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Post Post #4389 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:48 am

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In post 4384, Titus wrote:I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.
this being a thing you hadn't done b/c?
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Post Post #4390 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 am

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In post 4388, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4386, fireisredsir wrote:but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc
What about players like eyes or scorpios, galron?
eyes probably, scorp maybe but meh. galron probably. i think someone said this already, maybe froggy, that if vp/malc are both town then it's probably just enchant and we've been distracted from it all day. titus maybe. yeet maybe.
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Post Post #4391 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 am

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In post 4385, Titus wrote:Happy birthday bro.
Happy birthday sis!

Sorry you got stuck with a scum role PM.

You can put doubt in that by voting VP or helping me wagon Galron (A)

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Post Post #4392 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:00 am

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Remember Galron is scum if/when I die.
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Post Post #4393 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:03 am

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In post 4394, MathBlade wrote:Remember Galron is scum if/when I die.
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Post Post #4394 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:03 am

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In post 4386, fireisredsir wrote:right now tbh i am doubting myself immensely but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc since i have been thinking that it is for a while and have been thinking about most other players in terms of how they relate to those two slots. i know vp thinks that only maf are hesitant at the end but i know at least for me that is not at all the case, idk if I've ever voted someone out for non-mech-guilty reasons without some last minute doubts
Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons
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Post Post #4395 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:05 am

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In post 4382, fireisredsir wrote:if you mean "hasn't suspected anyone that hasn't already been suspected", then uh maybe thats cause everyone has been suspected at this point
This is what I mean. You're not really pushing people that don't have other people pushing harder. It gives you cover
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Post Post #4396 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:06 am

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In post 4396, Yeet wrote:Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons
i did and now i am doubting that. why am i perpetually paralyzed by self-doubt and indecision? idk i can't afford a therapist ill get back to you in 5 or 6 years
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Post Post #4397 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:07 am

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In post 4398, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 4396, Yeet wrote:Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons
i did and now i am doubting that. why am i perpetually paralyzed by self-doubt and indecision? idk i can't afford a therapist ill get back to you in 5 or 6 years
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Post Post #4398 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:09 am

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In post 4397, VP Baltar wrote:This is what I mean. You're not really pushing people that don't have other people pushing harder. It gives you cover
i think i almost always look where other people are looking, and then try to look deeper to see if i think they're right or not. that's like, what i do, it's just the main way i know how to play the game. p sure i did that on day 1 too and i will do that on day 3
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Post Post #4399 (ISO) » Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:15 am

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In post 4391, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4384, Titus wrote:I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.
this being a thing you hadn't done b/c?
Been busy with birthday celebrations.
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