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Post Post #4250 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:00 am

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bye math. have a nice sleep.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4251 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:06 am

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In post 4248, VP Baltar wrote:Who are you trying to fool with this? Titus and galron most likely since they were not here I guess. I'm being run up because 'boo hoo vp is so mean and calling people scum with his so many misreps, etc,' but I'm also reserved and timid I guess?
It's slightly subjective but I think it's an objective fact that you were being more forceful with your pushes yesterday then you are today. As I said in the hood thread I think you are being very dishonest when you lie and claim that you are being run up b/c you are being mean.
In post 4248, VP Baltar wrote:Like I said, you are running a marketing campaign rather than actually scum hunting.
must be doing a halfway decent job if you are the leading wagon. Kinda funny that you were blasting me earlier for not being able to build a wagon on you.
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Post Post #4252 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:08 am

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In post 4253, Nero Cain wrote:must be doing a halfway decent job if you are the leading wagon. Kinda funny that you were blasting me earlier for not being able to build a wagon on you.
As I've stated, people are being lazy. You've led a town wagon. Congrats. You're big smart.
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Post Post #4253 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:11 am

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Problem with this game is there are too many people playing anti-town. Plain and simple. We can't even vig our way out of it.

Best thing we can do is for the town folks who are reading the game more accurately to find each other, bloc up, and drag the weaker players to victory. The sad thing is my town flip would help with this.
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Post Post #4254 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:14 am

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In post 4249, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4246, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.
So you think all these people are scum?
No, but I don't townread them and I think they'd provide some info.
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Post Post #4255 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 4256, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4249, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4246, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.
So you think all these people are scum?
No, but I don't townread them and I think they'd provide some info.
What info does a Dragons vig provide?
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Post Post #4256 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:18 am

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In post 4250, MathBlade wrote:My last wish is deaths in this order regardless of VP’s flip

1) Galron. Dude scumslipped and faked reads and it’s freakin obvious. Skitter30 also had a tell of pings.
2) April. April needs death. The fact they haven’t got an elim off at this point and Ari’s defense of Galron is bad AF
3) Titus unless she pushes a scum elim fast. As I said there was a scum in Datisi/Wu

Wake me in dead thread if there is still a game after that
Explain how it's a scumslip like I'm 5? I see the inconsistency but it seems like such a silly mistake, idk.
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Post Post #4257 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:19 am

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In post 4257, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4256, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4249, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4246, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.
So you think all these people are scum?
No, but I don't townread them and I think they'd provide some info.
What info does a Dragons vig provide?
I'd love to know why Scorp is always pushed instead of him.
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Post Post #4258 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:27 am

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In post 4258, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4250, MathBlade wrote:My last wish is deaths in this order regardless of VP’s flip

1) Galron. Dude scumslipped and faked reads and it’s freakin obvious. Skitter30 also had a tell of pings.
2) April. April needs death. The fact they haven’t got an elim off at this point and Ari’s defense of Galron is bad AF
3) Titus unless she pushes a scum elim fast. As I said there was a scum in Datisi/Wu

Wake me in dead thread if there is still a game after that
Explain how it's a scumslip like I'm 5? I see the inconsistency but it seems like such a silly mistake, idk.
Math is saying that Galron gave a "town" read on Math so Galron would look like he has accurate and good reads this game. Math is alleging that Galron already knew Math was a mason (something galron seemingly confirmed?).
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Post Post #4259 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:28 am

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In post 4259, tenebrousluminary wrote:I'd love to know why Scorp is always pushed instead of him.
Wouldn't vigging scorpion provide that information much more directly?
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Post Post #4260 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:49 am

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i don't think it's vp
i don't think it's malcolm
i think tene's scorpius towncase is bunk
i think it's scorpius

tene's suspicion on people on scorp doesn't make sense either, i don't see why scum would try so hard to get a nothingburger slot limmed over one of the two wagons people posting
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Post Post #4261 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:15 am

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In post 4261, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4259, tenebrousluminary wrote:I'd love to know why Scorp is always pushed instead of him.
Wouldn't vigging scorpion provide that information much more directly?
I am not going to advocate for vigging my townread.
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Post Post #4262 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:20 am

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In post 4251, MathBlade wrote:And please vig Galron. Please
Okie
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Post Post #4263 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:28 am

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Not that any of this matters since the vig is either blocked or fake. Leaning towards fake. Why are we even talking about this?
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Post Post #4264 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:33 am

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In post 4264, Enchant wrote:
In post 4251, MathBlade wrote:And please vig Galron. Please
Okie
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Post Post #4265 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:35 am

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In post 4265, tenebrousluminary wrote:Not that any of this matters since the vig is either blocked or fake. Leaning towards fake. Why are we even talking about this?
Idk on the validity of the vig, but agree with you that it is unlikely we get an actual result, so it is definitely a whatever conversation
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Post Post #4266 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:36 am

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In post 4262, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't see why scum would try so hard to get a nothingburger slot limmed over one of the two wagons people posting
This isn't an entirely terrible point either. Hrm.
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Post Post #4267 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:40 am

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In post 4206, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: VP

Nope. Now I kinda want VP since Galron is pinging me hard.

My meta the past few posts has been extremely different from prior games he has seen me in so I suspect that was coached which means I am doing what scum want so VP needs to go even though I personally TR him

Regardless of flip Galron needs to die.
I read this post tice and am struggling to get it still. If Galron is the one you want why are you voting VP? You started by stating Galron was pinging you so you want VP (!!) and ended with Galron needs to die regardless. (Sorry if there's something I misunderstood)
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Post Post #4268 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:41 am

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VP what would you be doing differently if you were scum this game?
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Post Post #4269 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:43 am

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In post 4269, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 4206, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: VP

Nope. Now I kinda want VP since Galron is pinging me hard.

My meta the past few posts has been extremely different from prior games he has seen me in so I suspect that was coached which means I am doing what scum want so VP needs to go even though I personally TR him

Regardless of flip Galron needs to die.
I read this post tice and am struggling to get it still. If Galron is the one you want why are you voting VP? You started by stating Galron was pinging you so you want VP (!!) and ended with Galron needs to die regardless. (Sorry if there's something I misunderstood)
Math is thinking of vig here I believe, they want Galron taken out that way. We're also at a point where it's probably difficult to see a new wagon emerging entirely barring a major push.
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Post Post #4270 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:44 am

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In post 4259, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4257, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4256, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4249, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4246, tenebrousluminary wrote:Vig Dragons, Titus, Galron, or the survivor of Malc/VP if they flip town.
So you think all these people are scum?
No, but I don't townread them and I think they'd provide some info.
What info does a Dragons vig provide?
I'd love to know why Scorp is always pushed instead of him.
Surely this could go for vice versa here too though? I'm not sure what STD has particularly done at any point regarding their lack of activity or not keeping up with the game that wouldn't also apply to Scorpious. I don't think either of them should be eliminated this turn for what it's worth but this feels like weak reasoning.
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Post Post #4271 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:45 am

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In post 4210, MathBlade wrote:Galron would be scumreading me for not hyperposting. Yet instead he goes this is town math. Therefore Galron is scum.

Galron as scum scumreading me means that I am doing what scum want. Therefore scum want me not on VP.
OK. This is my answer I guess. It doesn't make me any happier tbh.
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Post Post #4272 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:46 am

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In post 4262, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't think it's vp
i don't think it's malcolm
i think tene's scorpius towncase is bunk
i think it's scorpius

tene's suspicion on people on scorp doesn't make sense either, i don't see why scum would try so hard to get a nothingburger slot limmed over one of the two wagons people posting
Could be a bit of both? Whatever is happening it's unlikely mafia are all jumping on wagons together, bit too obvious. No doubt some of the people who've quickly switched votes or changed preferences will be town. It's just that it's also a good place for mafia to hide.
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Post Post #4273 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:46 am

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Official Votecount 2.14VP Baltar (6): tenebrousluminary, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, DeasVail, fireisredsir, MathBlade
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MalcolmTucker (4): April Ludgate, Eyes without a face, Yeet, VP Baltar
Scorpious (3): Cape90, Save the Dragons, Titus
Nero Cain (1): Scorpious
Galron (1): Enchant
Yeet (1): MalcolmTucker

Not Voting (1): Galron

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2022-03-16 09:20:00).

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Post Post #4274 (ISO) » Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:47 am

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In post 4260, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4258, tenebrousluminary wrote:
In post 4250, MathBlade wrote:My last wish is deaths in this order regardless of VP’s flip

1) Galron. Dude scumslipped and faked reads and it’s freakin obvious. Skitter30 also had a tell of pings.
2) April. April needs death. The fact they haven’t got an elim off at this point and Ari’s defense of Galron is bad AF
3) Titus unless she pushes a scum elim fast. As I said there was a scum in Datisi/Wu

Wake me in dead thread if there is still a game after that
Explain how it's a scumslip like I'm 5? I see the inconsistency but it seems like such a silly mistake, idk.
Math is saying that Galron gave a "town" read on Math so Galron would look like he has accurate and good reads this game. Math is alleging that Galron already knew Math was a mason (something galron seemingly confirmed?).
It seems like the case is basically that Galron is stupid then?

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