Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[Kinetic]

Meh, whatever, I'll just post it.

Its Unaligned Worlds. I screwed it up as I was doing Wiki-research on the subject to make sure I didn't have to fake claim my race, and its stated as Non-Aligned Worlds there. The connotation of the race name as well as the race win condition made me think it was possibly "scum" in the whole race part of the game (aka smaller numbers but higher power of roles, though I guess it would have to be uninformed scum which sucks balls). The fact I thought this should be evident from a lot of my earlier responses to Kinetic about unbalanced numbers and what not.

Would you mind telling me if I had the WC right for your race?

[cr3t1n]

sory i forgot to post

i will post rly quickly

You are very, very lucky that you have such a good sense of timing. - Tar

[Kinetic]

cretin, you need to race claim while you're still around.

[RandomGem]

I bet we won't be seeing him for around 72 hours...
And I swear that that role PM is not fake. I wonder how far I can go without getting modkilled. (Do you think quoting my role PM would get me modkilled? Hmm...)

[Kinetic]

Don't worry too much about it RandomGem, Armlx just showed that the inconsistency was on his end. That gives your role pm more concrete foundation.

Either way, what could you quote from your role pm that hasn't already been posted in the forum if that's your real pm, hmm?

[RandomGem]

I dunno. It was just something I was randomly wondering about.
(As in... could I get away with quoting my role PM by saying it's the one posted in thread? XD)

[cr3t1n]

cretin, you need to race claim while you're still around.

im here
im reeding now on page 23

wen did the raseclaim start

[armlx]

Would you mind telling me if I had the WC right for your race?

Yup, you were right.

[Empking]

Babylon 5

[Darox]

Name them.

One is who needs to be eliminated for a racial victory, and the other is that every player has a racial win condition.

By the way, Minarbi don't need to kill Narn to win.

Moderator Note: Your moderator made an error when sending Darox his role PM (due to sending an older version of the PM). I apologize for the confusion. - Tar

From these two posts it should be abundantly clear that I am Minarbi.

[hp [leaves]]

My race is Earthforce.

[DrippingGoofball]

B5 for me, and what's with the other races?

I don't get what's going on with RG. Can someone clue me in?

[cr3t1n]

im league of unaligned worlds member

i fink there r lots of townies who dont no who each other are they r uninformed
we shudnt be racist that wat babylon 5 was 4
i fink there is more than 1 mafier they r informed
n the townys shud try 2 lynch them


hear is wat i got from reeding agen

I was really considering voting malthusis for that Kinetic vote, but Nat is confirmed non-town so.....

cant malt b mafier as well as nat

i dont understand y didnt u voet 4 malt then


malt sounds suspishus in 573 he dosnt explane his voet 4 natirasha
he looks oppertunistic

Last, the logical choice for lynch today is Nat or hp[leaves]. They're confirmed mafia biased, even if they're not mafia. Additionally, I'm concerned about their WCs. They're survivor hunters, but they can theoretically win even if dead...

y
hunting survivors isnt scummy n desnt meen u dont hav 2 hunt mafier 2

hpleaves is confusin me here

Actually I can win the game no matter alive or dead. Me dying this day does nothing good or bad to me. But I can help

you

only while I'm alive.

i fink maebe his makin it up after tarhalindur posted about win condishuns makin it sound lyk mor then it is

Well, anyway, given the current line of discussion, both Nat and hp need to die I think. I'll support either lynch, and since currently it seems to be in favor of hp leaves...

l0lwut
"given the current line of discussion, both Nat and hp need to die I think" y r u followin insted of explaning

I doubt we have any more survivors

"any more"
who were the first 1s
this is suspishus

If both of these are true, that means it would be physically impossible for the town (Army of Light) to achieve it's win condition of killing both Vorlons and Shadows because as soon as one group died one of hp or nat would win.

I don't think Tar would give the town a physically impossible win condition.

y do u keep sayin town
n look

The game ends when a win condition is fulfilled unless that win condition explicitly says otherwise.

Quote:


I don't know. I'm just speculating at this point. What makes you think they're different?


Three regular survivors...in a Tar game? Yeah right. Survivor in MS one had that cool power that screwed up vots. Survivor/Serial Killer in MS two had the ability to kill by abilities. Even if this isn't MS, I doubt that Tar would EVER make a vanilla survivor. And I doubt he'd use two of the same type unless maybe they were mason survivors (which would be a cool role, lol)

I highly doubt it. I personally think they're two scum from the same scumgroup fakeclaiming opposite survivors so they can distance each other. Even if i'm wrong (and I don't) everyone agrees that they aren't town anyways. The question is which one of them should we lynch first?

y
malt keeps pushin that hp n natirasha r survivors but their is no reeson
his just following every1
i fink hes definitly scum

Most players will have Army of Light as this alignment wants both mafia dead.
Then there is the Anti-shadow. These wants the Shadow Operatives and the Neutral Survivars dead.
Which would mean that there is also an Anti-Vorlons (HP). They would win when the Vorlon Operatives and the Neutral Survivors are gone.
Then there are the two mafia: Shadow/Vorlon Operatives. The Shadow Operatives want probably the AoL and the Anti-shadows exterminated, while the Vorlon-Operatives want the AoL and the Anti-Vorlons out of the game.
Last will be the Neutral Survivors, which would mean that they just need to survive as every alignment is already hunted by two alignments.

i fink mana ku is rite

Remember: If no one has majority by deadline, it is a no lynch. I strongly urge everyone to make up their minds about who to lynch.

l0lwut
u say we need 2 lynch but u dont tell us who
scum

dybeck did the same thin


i can voet hp becuz of 619 but i want 2 lynch malt

y isnt ne1 looking at him?
his so scummy he follows ppl n ignores questions
forget about races
scumhunt n lynch scum instead
lynch

malthusis

[hp [leaves]]

Uh, can you type that again in an understandable way?

[Kinetic]

Name them.

One is who needs to be eliminated for a racial victory, and the other is that every player has a racial win condition.

By the way, Minarbi don't need to kill Narn to win.

Moderator Note: Your moderator made an error when sending Darox his role PM (due to sending an older version of the PM). I apologize for the confusion. - Tar

From these two posts it should be abundantly clear that I am Minarbi.

Possible, but since you said you had two races earlier, it was just as possible that Minbari (especially since you got the wrong WC for them) was not your race.

[Mana_Ku]

For all those, who couldn't understand cr3t1n's post, I have done my best with a translation:

I'm a league of unaligned worlds member.

I think there are lots of townies who dont know who each other are they are uninformed.
we shouldnt be racist that wat babylon 5 was 4 (no idea what he means)
I think there is more than 1 mafia they are informed (do you mean both mafia groups know who the members of the other mafia are?)
and the townies should try to lynch them (true, but also the survivors should die)

here is wat i got from reading again

I was really considering voting malthusis for that Kinetic vote, but Nat is confirmed non-town so.....

Can't they both be mafia? (if Natirasha's alignment is the same as me, then no)

I don't understand why you didn't vote malthusis then.

Malthusis sounds suspicious in 573. He doesn't explain his vote against Natirasha.
I think he's oppertunistic.

Last, the logical choice for lynch today is Nat or hp[leaves]. They're confirmed mafia biased, even if they're not mafia. Additionally, I'm concerned about their WCs. They're survivor hunters, but they can theoretically win even if dead...

Why?
Hunting survivors isn't scummy and doesn't mean you don't have to hunt mafia too.

hpleaves is confusing me here

Actually I can win the game no matter alive or dead. Me dying this day does nothing good or bad to me. But I can help you only while I'm alive.

I think he's making this up after Thar posted about win conditions making it sound like more then it is.

(no, he doesn't. If he's anti-Vorlon then he doesn't have to be alive. As long as the Vorlon Operatives and the Neutral Survivors die, before any other WC is succesful, he still wins.)

Well, anyway, given the current line of discussion, both Nat and hp need to die I think. I'll support either lynch, and since currently it seems to be in favor of hp leaves...

lol, what.
Why are you following instead of explaining?

I doubt we have any more survivors

Who were the first?
This is suspicious (they think nat and hp are the survivors, and possibly me as well)

If both of these are true, that means it would be physically impossible for the town (Army of Light) to achieve it's win condition of killing both Vorlons and Shadows because as soon as one group died one of hp or nat would win.

I don't think Tar would give the town a physically impossible win condition.

Why do you keep saying town?
And look:

The game ends when a win condition is fulfilled unless that win condition explicitly says otherwise.

(Then comes a quote, which i won't quote as I have no idea from who the first quote is. Just look at his original post.)

Why?
Malthusis keep pushing that hp and nat are survivors but there is no reason.
He's just following everyone else.
I think he's definitly scum.

(He thinks I'm right about the alignments)

Remember: If no one has majority by deadline, it is a no lynch. I strongly urge everyone to make up their minds about who to lynch.

lol, what?
You say we need to lynch, but you don't tell us who.
scum.

Dybeck did the same thing.

I can vote hp, but I want to lynch malthusis.

why isn't anyone looking at him?
He's so scummy. He follows others and he ignores question.
Forget about races.
Scumhunt and lynch scum instead.
Lynch Malthusis.


If I hear one comment, I will be so angry.

I'll look into Malthusis more. I think cr3t1n has some decent points. So I'm gonna

Unvote Vote Malthusis

Let's see if Malthusis is as scummy as cr3t1n says.

BTW I'm Babylon 5.

[Kinetic]

Mana Ku, are you B5 or Unaligned?

[armlx]

Thank you Mana_Ku. My solution to the cr3tin issue was actually just not read his posts and hope there was a smart vig who would just kill him.

[Mana_Ku]

See the end of my previous post. I'm B5.

The start of my previous post is a translation from cr3t1n's last post. He's unaligned.

Well, I want to give him a chance with his opinion. But I've figured out why noone else translates his posts.

[Kinetic]

3 more claims then

[dybeck]

You say we need to lynch, but you don't tell us who.
scum.

Dybeck did the same thing.

I hardly think so. I've been for a Cybele/Knight of Cydonia lynch quite openly pretty much since I joined the game, (off and on).

[VisMaior]

B5 here

[dybeck]

I'm intrigued that not only are there no Vorlons and Shandows, but no Centauri either.

Not sure what that means but it's interesting.

[armlx]

I'm intrigued that not only are there no Vorlons and Shandows, but no Centauri either.

???

There's so many reasons the former should be obvious.

Centauri... there's one so far.

[dybeck]

I'm intrigued that not only are there no Vorlons and Shandows, but no Centauri either.

???

There's so many reasons the former should be obvious.

obv.

Centauri... there's one so far.

Oh yeah. Read back and I managed to miss two