Micro 1045: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts [END]

ISO · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:14 am

8ball strategy convo is pretty reductive IMO (saying this as I realise it; ive been sucked in too)

Anyone agree/disagree with Klick town? Can anyone expand on the std tone thing? I forgot who said it but I think it was Nor.

Frogsterking · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:27 am

NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 179, Frogsterking wrote:theworst you don't fear hockeyfan is a likely choice for the 8ball?
Does 8-ball speculation help us? I haven’t played this setup before, but tbh it seems like day 1 speculation is rather pointless?

I'm hoping that it's fruitful. The main reason I have to be optimistic is that scum don't have night kill without 8ball which makes me think it's a more relevant mechanic than others.

I didn't see many games linked for this setup in the wiki, but I haven't searched very deeply.

In post 187, the worst wrote:actually you seem to have more 8ball reads than alignment reads what's up with that

In post 195, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 192, Frogsterking wrote:188 that's interesting. My approach was to not read for it at all and count votes, pushes, and shade, and assume people getting a lot of those things are more likely and none of those things are less likely to be the 8 ball.
depends on whether or not mafia find it advantageous to vote/push/shade the 8ball.

This line of discussion converges here because I'm also answering theworst in 192.

I'm imagining that scum would be pretty motivated to get their 8ball taken out, as it overlaps heavily with their other main priority, not getting taken out themselves, because of limited # of wagon targets and the ability to night kill their biggest threats. I could be wrong on this, I just can't imagine three players going
"Hey let's

not

get the 8 ball!"

In post 190, the worst wrote:klick town
enchant/nor trending town
I like std and don't follow the comments about tone really I'm sorry

VOTE: frog

This doesn't read TvT to me and it looks like you're feeling the pressure. If we are TvT and you feel like you can't focus because of my aggression I can back off you a little bit

ISO · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:31 am

In post 201, Frogsterking wrote:I just can't imagine three players going
"Hey let's not get the 8 ball!"

In post 2, Umlaut wrote:2 Mafia Goons
6 Townies

lmao i think frog might be town

ISO · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:32 am

VOTE: Norwee

Frogsterking · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:35 am

In post 200, the worst wrote:8ball strategy convo is pretty reductive IMO (saying this as I realise it; ive been sucked in too)

Anyone agree/disagree with Klick town? Can anyone expand on the std tone thing? I forgot who said it but I think it was Nor.

I can validate that Klick's posts appear townie, and that's it. Klick is super far within their scum range IMO, beyond appearing townie so far I'm not going to back up your call on Klick!town.

Frogsterking · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:38 am

In post 202, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 201, Frogsterking wrote:I just can't imagine three players going
"Hey let's not get the 8 ball!"

In post 2, Umlaut wrote:2 Mafia Goons
6 Townies
lmao i think frog might be town

Huh nice catch. That was a genuine town!slip, I figured it had to be 3 to be balanced.

Frogsterking · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:44 am

In post 199, Save The Dragons wrote:i think the worst is town

I do hear you, and 140 and 190 are what I don't like.

ISO · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:50 am

201,204 are literally "let's not have reads, let's continue to talk in circles about the 8ball" and like =_=; I just don't even

ISO · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:51 am

In post 202, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 201, Frogsterking wrote:I just can't imagine three players going
"Hey let's not get the 8 ball!"

In post 2, Umlaut wrote:2 Mafia Goons
6 Townies
lmao i think frog might be town

I think that's like, a vary obvious slip to fake tbh

HockeyFan · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:00 am

In post 128, ta vera wrote:how?

Just because they're meaningless fluff doesnt mean they still sound tonally town

In post 153, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think STD has been tonally weird so far, does nobody agree on that.

I dont think theres much point in pushing this further since STD is always tonally weird

Anyways:
Tr's:
Frogster
TL:
the worst
ta vera
Null:
{everyone but my SL}
Slight SL: Maybe Norwee? Cant really explain this as well tho

VOTE: Norwee

ISO · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:05 am

VOTE: Norwee think this is e-1

Frogsterking · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:06 am

sketch, unvote

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:09 am

Worst why are you voting me.

Frogsterking · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:09 am

In post 190, the worst wrote:klick town
enchant/nor trending town
I like std and don't follow the comments about tone really I'm sorry

VOTE: frog

In post 210, the worst wrote:VOTE: Norwee think this is e-1

Norwe is 8 ball, duck is 1 and suiciding for night kill.

Frogsterking · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:10 am

In post 212, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Worst why are you voting me.

You're the 8 ball dude look at duck's read progression. They want out.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:11 am

Or rather, care to explain why you voting me right after stating you didn't think i was scum?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:12 am

In post 214, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 212, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Worst why are you voting me.
You're the 8 ball dude look at duck's read progression. They want out.

??

ISO · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:13 am

I changed my mind.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:14 am

Ok, why?

Frogsterking · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:15 am

In post 215, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Or rather, care to explain why you voting me right after stating you didn't think i was scum?

In post 216, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 214, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 212, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Worst why are you voting me.
You're the 8 ball dude look at duck's read progression. They want out.
??

I think because of this :

In post 190, the worst wrote:klick town
enchant/nor trending town
I like std and don't follow the comments about tone really I'm sorry

VOTE: frog

In post 203, Save The Dragons wrote:VOTE: Norwee

In post 209, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 128, ta vera wrote:how?
Just because they're meaningless fluff doesnt mean they still sound tonally town

In post 153, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think STD has been tonally weird so far, does nobody agree on that.

VOTE: Norwee

In post 210, the worst wrote:VOTE: Norwee think this is e-1

This is incredibly sketch on both ends.

ISO · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:17 am

ah it was only e-2, my bad

ISO · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:19 am

In post 218, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ok, why?

I don't vibe your reads as much as I did the first time round
I suppose the approach to this would be to ask you to elaborate on ta mostly, but
wagons are fun ^^

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:21 am

Um ok, don't see why vibing with reads would be important.
@Frog I find your reaction a bit odd, why did you act like Worst was suicidal scum or something.

ISO · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:23 am

I do think frogster's posting is like, overtly manipulative and I'm surprised he's being overlooked.

- He doesn't have any reads; just lots of opinions. At every turn he tries to hijack conversations about peoples alignments with spammy mechanical stuff.
- he's very quick to point out things which look bad, but hasn't presented any evidence of organic thought in forming reads.
- I forgot his vote was on me; his voting is probably roughly what you'd expect but I maintain he decided I was scum and is looking for reasons

Frogsterking · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:24 am

In post 222, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Um ok, don't see why vibing with reads would be important.
@Frog I find your reaction a bit odd, why did you act like Worst was suicidal scum or something.

Could be temperament, I find your reaction a bit odd? Maybe I'm more emotionally reactive than you are. Or maybe it's scum theater. If I were town and in your shoes I would be highly reactive to that usually.