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House · Post Post #5001 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:36 am

In post 4999, Aristeia wrote:I guess I could hammer no elim here but I'm also not sure and I'm so over this game

No elim is the only certainty that there is a tomorrow, frankly

Aristeia · Post Post #5002 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:36 am

In post 4997, Datisi wrote:VOTE: no-yeet

i pray that house is a vig and shoots me so i can call him even more of a gamethrower than he is now.

why do you want no yeet?

Datisi · Post Post #5003 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:36 am

because it's either that or voting house

and i don't like losing

MathBlade · Post Post #5004 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 am

How would you hammer No yeet it’s just Datisi and House yeah?

Aristeia · Post Post #5005 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 am

3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

House · Post Post #5006 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 am

In post 5002, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4997, Datisi wrote:VOTE: no-yeet

i pray that house is a vig and shoots me so i can call him even more of a gamethrower than he is now.
why do you want no yeet?

Why are you asking, when you were the one that introduced the idea in the first place?

Aristeia · Post Post #5007 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 am

3 votes = no yeet in 6p

MathBlade · Post Post #5008 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:37 am

In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

Oh I thought it needed 4.

Aristeia · Post Post #5009 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:38 am

In post 5006, House wrote:
In post 5002, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4997, Datisi wrote:VOTE: no-yeet

i pray that house is a vig and shoots me so i can call him even more of a gamethrower than he is now.
why do you want no yeet?
Why are you asking, when you were the one that introduced the idea in the first place?

because I'm confused about so many things.

when i introduced it I didn't know you would claim PR.

Aristeia · Post Post #5010 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:44 am

Mathblade I am very sorry that you think the only reason I have given you so much shit is because I think you suck.

I don't think you suck, you're very good at certain things; I am just frustrated with how you play and that's probably more on me than you.

catboi · Post Post #5011 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:56 am

In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.

House · Post Post #5012 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:04 am

In post 5011, catboi wrote:
In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.

This is the first I've ever seen this be the case, but whatever.

Aristeia · Post Post #5013 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:06 am

ok I will VOTE: no elim then.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5014 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:40 am

In post 4967, Aristeia wrote:Also it doesn't actually make any sense for him to think this in regards to house because in his world view he thinks Me/House are the scum team.

He has already stated IV/Mathblade = confmechtown and stated he thinks Datisi can't be teamed with me.

You are analyzing my play by making a few fundamental errors but I’m not surprised about that. The embedded assumption here is that I am 100% certain that the Scum Team is You + House. It’s almost like you would rather I ignore all additional evidence or arguments being pushed around (or not even question them while trying to stay objective), so that you can make an argument that I am trying to buddy Math. If you factored in that I am not 100% certain about a strict solve, your argument quickly falls apart. And what makes you think I should mindlessly push my solve and not ask any additional questions? If House is hinting at a potential role heavily in MElo, would you rather I mindlessly scream it’s bullshit? You’re making an argument that doesn’t make sense.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5015 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:41 am

In post 5011, catboi wrote:
In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.

Not that I agree with House on much, but I do think this is an error. No Execution should be hammered at 50%. It’s always been the case.

House · Post Post #5016 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:46 am

In post 5015, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5011, catboi wrote:
In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.
Not that I agree with House on much, but I do think this is an error. No Execution should be hammered at 50%. It’s always been the case.

If you fundamentally believe this to be the case, hammering it on principal since it's currently sitting at 50% is completely justifiable.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5017 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:50 am

In post 4888, Aristeia wrote:
In post 4873, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4792, Aristeia wrote:can anyone explain to me why an investigative tpr decides to fakeclaim mason on day 1 ?

it feels like nobody is really listening to me unless I scream at them.
They’re not investigative by their own admission.
I am talking about innocent villager who claimed mason and is now claiming to be an even night gunsmith.

why would a player who is a town investigative role decide to fake claim mason on day 1?

fake-claiming mason is what you do when you try to draw nightkill as a VT or Bulletproof or Commuter.

an investigative TPR does not want to get nightkilled.

I can’t speak for IV, but this is wrong. IV didn’t claim anything, House did. House can correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that House claimed Mason to save IV, give them a chance to stay in the game since they read them as Town and didn’t think IV had settled in properly or whatever. We know IV is Even-Night Gunsmith. So, IV is being protected from execution by House’s claim, which lets them actually use their role, right? Why would they dismantle the claim made by House? It’s like you don’t think logically, just whatever fits a narrative you have in your head. Assume the opposite universe - IV actually states that House is full of shit, it’s not true. At worst, they get executed right then and there. At best, maybe House gets shot (and not them), the claim is revealed to be nonsense, and they get to use their ability N2 if they don’t get executed the next day. Which one is better?

I can’t speak for IV or the exact motivation, but your story clearly doesn’t match the actual facts. If IV had claimed Mason on their own with House, and House had gone along with it, then this would have legs. But that’s not what actually happened.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5018 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:50 am

In post 5016, House wrote:
In post 5015, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5011, catboi wrote:
In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.
Not that I agree with House on much, but I do think this is an error. No Execution should be hammered at 50%. It’s always been the case.
If you fundamentally believe this to be the case, hammering it on principal since it's currently sitting at 50% is completely justifiable.

I’m catching up. Once I’m done posting I will. I do think this is a Mod error.

House · Post Post #5019 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:51 am

In post 5017, Andresvmb wrote:House can correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that House claimed Mason to save IV, give them a chance to stay in the game since they read them as Town and didn’t think IV had settled in properly or whatever.

iv confirmed my claim.

House · Post Post #5020 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:52 am

In post 5018, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5016, House wrote:
In post 5015, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5011, catboi wrote:
In post 5005, Aristeia wrote:3 votes is a hammer on yeet in 6p

I haven't made an allowance for this in this rules so I'm going to say no elimination isn't hammered until there are 4 votes.
Not that I agree with House on much, but I do think this is an error. No Execution should be hammered at 50%. It’s always been the case.
If you fundamentally believe this to be the case, hammering it on principal since it's currently sitting at 50% is completely justifiable.
I’m catching up. Once I’m done posting I will. I do think this is a Mod error.

That's fair.

I don't think it's a mod error so much as an aberration.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5021 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:54 am

In post 5019, House wrote:
In post 5017, Andresvmb wrote:House can correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that House claimed Mason to save IV, give them a chance to stay in the game since they read them as Town and didn’t think IV had settled in properly or whatever.
iv confirmed my claim.

I just explained why that makes sense to me. You guys are acting like it was better for IV to get pushed to the brink and be forced to claim D1, instead of going along with your nonsense claim and having that dismantled at some other point in the future after they get to use their role. I don’t get it.

House · Post Post #5022 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:55 am

In post 5021, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5019, House wrote:
In post 5017, Andresvmb wrote:House can correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that House claimed Mason to save IV, give them a chance to stay in the game since they read them as Town and didn’t think IV had settled in properly or whatever.
iv confirmed my claim.
I just explained why that makes sense to me. You guys are acting like it was better for IV to get pushed to the brink and be forced to claim D1, instead of going along with your nonsense claim and having that dismantled at some other point in the future after they get to use their role. I don’t get it.

Am... I... being included in this critique?

What have I forgotten doing, this time?

Andresvmb · Post Post #5023 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:00 am

In post 4977, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4976, Aristeia wrote:I don't know why I'm still playing anymore atp
It’s pretty obvious House is full of shit

You me and Datisi broke down why.

If House is confirmable with a night action then he can say what night action.

House I mean I think this is correct. I don’t want to get into an argument with you about this really, but your play doesn’t match what you’re saying. You were openly baiting a hammer on Aristeia. Aristeia themselves didn’t see it as you trying to play chicken, which Math argued as a possibility. How does that make any sense with a role that you have yet to reveal as of right now? Like I can’t square it. You’ve lied too many times this game on mechanics for this to be remotely realistic. And yet you’re asking a lot of us to make the mechanically suboptimal play (which I will do out of pure conviction on fairness) unless we believe that you’re Town and your claim actually checks out. And you don’t want to talk about it! You lied as to you being Mason, you lied about being a Vigilante, and then you further lied about being a VT, and now we’re supposed to take your claim at face value. I can’t for the life of me understand why you think this is reasonable.

Andresvmb · Post Post #5024 (ISO) » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:02 am

In post 5022, House wrote:
In post 5021, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 5019, House wrote:
In post 5017, Andresvmb wrote:House can correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that House claimed Mason to save IV, give them a chance to stay in the game since they read them as Town and didn’t think IV had settled in properly or whatever.
iv confirmed my claim.
I just explained why that makes sense to me. You guys are acting like it was better for IV to get pushed to the brink and be forced to claim D1, instead of going along with your nonsense claim and having that dismantled at some other point in the future after they get to use their role. I don’t get it.
Am... I... being included in this critique?

What have I forgotten doing, this time?

Actually that’s more Aristeia who keeps asking the same question over and over to continuously shade IV, and Math who seems to be going along with it.