Choose Carefully Mafia: (Game Over)

[Santos]

oEJo, can you elaborate on how I am scum again?

[Moses le fou]

Waiting for a dead Santos.

This.

[ZazieR]

Well, actually I think it can wait for a bit. We have to agree with the lynching method as it's really WIFOMy.
Besides, I would like to hear a bit from the replacement (and the future replacement from christiano dragon)

[Empking]

Can people who are voting Santos other than to bandwagon please raise their hands.

[Sineish]

Corsicans lynched by one method as opposed to the Sicilians being lynched by another. So I voted for rope because if you're going to lynch a townie, I might as well vote for how a townie should properly die: lynch.

So you're saying that you've been running around in circles for the sake of write-up flavor?

Yes.

It looks to me like you're trying to re-write history here. You clearly stated when you voted for rope that you believed that guns killed townies.

Vote: Rope.

Why, now? Well, CarnCarn brought up a pretty solid point making me think that its plain jane mafia now...

Rope lynches scum, gun kills townies. Why would it be the other way around?

I think it's more likely you decided to vote for the lynch method you knew you were immune to.

Unvote Rope, Vote Gun

Vote: Santos

[Battle Mage]

Waiting for a dead Santos.

This.

*facepalm*

NB: Empking is obvtown.

BM

[bird1111]

Vote Count:
Santos (7): ZazieR, Moses le fou, Save the Dragon, ZTR, christiano drago, oEJo, hp [leaves], Sineish
Battle Mage (1): SocioPath
Riceballtail (1): Battle Mage
armlx (1): Riceballtail
hp [leaves] (1): CarnCarn
ZTR (1): Empking

Not voting (3): Thunder, Santos, armlx

With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch.

Lynch Method Vote Count:
Rope (8): Save the Dragons, Riceballtail, Empking, Moses le fou, CarnCarn, Santos, ZazieR, ZTR
Gun (7): hp [leaves], oEJo, christiano drago, SocioPath, Battle Mage, armlx, Sineish

Not voting for a lynch method (1): Thunder

If a lynch were to happen without any change in lynch method votes, the Rope would be used.

Looking for an christiano drago replacement.

[bird1111]

Prodding oEJo and Thunder.

[armlx]

You missed Sineish's last vote.

Fixed.

Also, I seem to remember revoting.

The vote count is accurate on this.

Vote Santos

L-1.

[Battle Mage]

Anyone voting Santos is lazy.

Anyone voting Rope is a moron.

Need i say more?

BM

[armlx]

Why is the first true BM?

[CarnCarn]

Santos, probably a time to full claim, here at L-1.

BM, why is Rope definately a bad choice? Do you think Santos is town? How do you know Empking is obvtown?

[Battle Mage]

Despite me and others asking on several occassions, there has been a blatant lack of explanation of the case on Santos. Until such reasoning is clarified, i see no reason to think Santos is scum.

I dont KNOW Empking is town, but he seems to be the only person who is really paying attention atm, so i guess we gotta hope...

Rope is blatantly a bad choice given SANTOS IS VOTING FOR IT NOW. -.-
This has already been discussed, and we've established why Gun is the weapon of choice.

BM

[ZazieR]

If you don't think Santos is scum, then why is rope a bad choice?

Rope is blatantly a bad choice given SANTOS IS VOTING FOR IT NOW. -.-
This has already been discussed, and we've established why Gun is the weapon of choice.

Let's play a game. I'm thinking about a word, which is actually an abbrevation, consisting out of 5 letters starting with the W. What would it be?
Now that we're talking about it, BM who are the 'we' you are mentioning in that quote?

[Battle Mage]

If you don't think Santos is scum, then why is rope a bad choice?

Rope is blatantly a bad choice given SANTOS IS VOTING FOR IT NOW. -.-
This has already been discussed, and we've established why Gun is the weapon of choice.

Let's play a game. I'm thinking about a word, which is actually an abbrevation, consisting out of 5 letters starting with the W. What would it be?
Now that we're talking about it, BM who are the 'we' you are mentioning in that quote?

Oh HAI!

The decision on kill methods is based on the premise that Santos is scum. And making the assumption Santos is scum (as we HAVE TO) Rope is not going to kill him. It's completely illogical.

If you can cut the patronising bs, i might be inclined to take you more seriously. Hell, maybe you could follow up by actually answering my original question.

BM

[armlx]

The whole Santos being scum was explained by me way early on. Design symmetry and what not.

[Battle Mage]

We have 2 claimed Mason pairs, right?

If there was to be symmetry, we would assume that each pair had 1 scumbag (presumably from different teams). Alternatively, 1 pair had 2 townies, and 1 pair has a scumbag from 2 different groups. I dont see how this makes Santos the play.

Can you elaborate more and/or expand into arguments that dont involve outguessing the mod?

BM

[CarnCarn]

armlx, what do you think of oEJo?

[armlx]

I am not going to vote for a rope or gun at the moment because now it just seems to mess with other player's abilities to find scummy tells when they have become much too reliant on these abrasive lynch methods.

That.

The whole weird Moses vote thing, the non-belief of the neighbor claim on the invalidity of the role mechanic when that was his role.

[CarnCarn]

armlx, I'm willing to hammer if you can explain your thoughts on oEJo.

[CarnCarn]

armlx, I'm willing to hammer if you can explain your thoughts on oEJo.

I should say, depending on your thoughts on oEJo.

[armlx]

Eh, oEJo I've got nothing really on. He hasn't posted much.

[CarnCarn]

Well, if you are going to use the symmetry argument, it seems to boil down to either he and oEJo are both scum or that Santos and I are scum. Do you see it that way? Which of those do you believe at this point?

[ZTR]

Anyone voting Santos is lazy.

Anyone voting Rope is a moron.

Need i say more?

BM

That was a bash on me wasn't it.

[bird1111]

ribwich replaces christiano drago.