Babylon 5 Mafia: Severed Dreams - Over

[Empking]

If you want to claim first, I think you should. We don't have much time.

[Mana_Ku]

OK, I didn't want to do this, but you're having the wrong suspects at the moment.
Nat is not scum as I have the the same alignment as he. Which probably means that someone knows that HP isn't lying as well. And Nat's right. It doesn't say that we need to survive. I'm sure that this isn't mentioned at the AOL as well.

Short said, there are 6 alignment factions.
Most players will have Army of Light as this alignment wants both mafia dead.
Then there is the Anti-shadow. These wants the Shadow Operatives and the Neutral Survivars dead.
Which would mean that there is also an Anti-Vorlons (HP). They would win when the Vorlon Operatives and the Neutral Survivors are gone.
Then there are the two mafia: Shadow/Vorlon Operatives. The Shadow Operatives want probably the AoL and the Anti-shadows exterminated, while the Vorlon-Operatives want the AoL and the Anti-Vorlons out of the game.
Last will be the Neutral Survivors, which would mean that they just need to survive as every alignment is already hunted by two alignments.

[veerus]

I think hp needs to claim in much the same fashion Nat did on page 15. By that I mean, I would want a name/race/WC.

For all intents and purposes, we are too close to the deadline to get 20-some people to race claim. What's plan B? Kinetic should probably make his big reveal and let us come to our own conclusions. His theories so far have made a fair amount of sense and have slowly gathered a significant pro-claim opinion. We can't risk him getting NK'd without knowing the full extent of his ideas.

[armlx]

Mana Ku: Or there are 3 and 2 lying scum, but sure.

[pacman281292]

I insist: there is no time.
hmm... who starts? Are you all completely sure that we must start raceclaiming now? or no? If so, I'll claim tomorrow as early as possible.

[MafiaSSK]

If it hasn't been mentioned already I'm VLA until Friday.

[Kinetic]

Mafia, if that's true how about you RC now then

[Tarhalindur]

"But only Zathras have no one to talk to. No one manages poor Zathras, you see. So Zathras talks to dirt. Or to walls, or talks to ceilings. But dirt is closer. Dirt is used to everyone walking on it. Just like Zathras. But we have come to like it. It is our role. It is our destiny in the universe. So, you see, sometimes dirt has insects in it. And Zathras likes insects. Not so good for conversation, but much protein for diet. Hmmm, huh, huh, very good! - Zathras fix now. Come, this way." - Zathras

cr3t1n has 24 hours to post or he will be replaced.

MafiaSSK's V/LA is once again noted. - Tar

The Twenty-Second Vote Count (aka the "Points of Departure" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

VisMaior (0)
Empking (0)
malthusis (1) - cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer)
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon) (0)
Knight of Cydonia (rep. Cybele) (3) - MafiaSSK, pacman281292, dybeck (rep. soaperguy29)
MafiaSSK (1) - Mana_Ku
armlx (0)
Darox (rep. seraphim) (0)
forbiddanlight (0)
populartajo (0)
Mana_Ku (0)
Natirasha (4) - RandomGem, farside22 (rep. Tovarish), veerus, malthusis
veerus (0)
The Internet (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer) (0)
pacman281292 (0)
RandomGem (0)
hp [leaves] (5) - armlx, Natirasha, Darox, (rep. seraphim), Empking, forbiddanlight
dybeck (rep. soaperguy29) (2) - Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon)
farside22 (rep. Tovarish) (0)

Not Voting (4): VisMaior, Knight of Cydonia (rep. Cybele), populartajo, TheInternet, hp [leaves]

Votes required to lynch: 12

FoS Count:

VisMaior (1) - farside22
Empking (1) - veerus
malthusis (1) - armlx
Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon) (1) - The Internet
Knight of Cydonia (rep. Cybele) (3) - Kinetic (rep. MBPikamon), Natirasha, veerus
MafiaSSK (1) - malthusis
armlx (1) - VisMaior
Darox (rep. seraphim) (1) - hp [leaves]
forbiddanlight (3) - Empking, Kinetic, veerus
populartajo
Mana_Ku
Natirasha
veerus (1) - Empking
The Internet (1) - Kinetic
DrippingGoofball
cr3t1n (rep. Blitzer) (1) - malthusis
pacman281292 (1) - Kinetic
RandomGem (1) - pacman281292
hp [leaves] (1) - Kinetic
soaperguy21
Tovarish
people pushing this idea (1) - malthusis
Tarhalindur (1) - Kinetic
Mastermind of Sin (1) - Kinetic
Glork (1) - Kinetic
Lucky Charms (The Cereal) (2) - Kinetic, RandomGem

Current and Final Deadline:

October 31, 2008 at ~6:00 P.M. (GMT -6)

[dybeck]

I largely don't care who claims first... I'd err towards KoC or Kinetic.

All... don't forget to vote also. Time is running out. This 'plan' doesn't give us a lynch, and there's no reason to no-lynch today just because we're claiming.

[Kinetic]

Dybeck right now most of the town is leaning towards you or KoC. Can you please start us off and then choose who you want to claim next.

[armlx]

Dybeck right now most of the town is leaning towards you or KoC. Can you please start us off and then choose who you want to claim next.

This is going to be so awkward given 2 of the people probably wanted to claim relatively highly (KoC and SSK, the later to try and get something relevant out of him) aren't here.

[Kinetic]

I'm thinking we might have to rethink popcorn and just go with claiming now... Certain people, and I think we ALL know who they are, are purposely trying to stall.

I'll go first, hell because no one else will, and I'll reveal my plan before lynch on the last day...

I'm B5, go dybeck or KoC

[farside22]

I'm thinking we might have to rethink popcorn and just go with claiming now... Certain people, and I think we ALL know who they are, are purposely trying to stall.

I'll go first, hell because no one else will, and I'll reveal my plan before lynch on the last day...

I'm B5, go dybeck or KoC

I don't mean to interupt and I'm a bit behind, but are we just character claiming?

[dybeck]

Kinetic... you said this plan wouldn't work unless everyone took part.

With three days to go and significant characters V/LA, lurking or stalling, tell me that you've figured a way around this.

[VisMaior]

Also, dont do "next is bla OR bla" as that gives an excuse for both to not do it.
and

vote dybeck

[forbiddanlight]

Are we claiming or not? And also, I think dybeck is being semi hypocritical. calling out people for stalling when he himself is doing it right there.

Unvote, vote dybeck

With three days to go and significant characters V/LA, lurking or stalling, tell me that you've figured a way around this.

Does it matter? With three days to go you might as well do because it looks like you are gonna die. Also, if no one objects, I think we might as well just do our raceclaims right now, no popcorn. I'll do mine in my next post if people are fine with it and start doing it.

[dybeck]

For the record, I think this plan sucks.

But I suspect I'm going to wagoned to a claim anyway, so I may as well head it off now.

I'm a Narn. KoC needs to go next. He also needs to be heavily voted if he intends to lurk this one out.

I think it's better that we don't all claim at once. I'd rather see this plan go by the wayside than to let the informed minorities get to wait to claim.

[forbiddanlight]

To be fair, we do need a lynch, and with all the information regarding Nat and such...I can get behind a

Unvote, Vote Knights of Cydonia

.

I also may consider switching to Nat or Mana_Ku under suspicion of scumbuddy protection.

[Natirasha]

For the record, I think this plan sucks.

But I suspect I'm going to wagoned to a claim anyway, so I may as well head it off now.

I'm a Narn. KoC needs to go next. He also needs to be heavily voted if he intends to lurk this one out.

I think it's better that we don't all claim at once. I'd rather see this plan go by the wayside than to let the informed minorities get to wait to claim.

lol I can't decide if I should vote for you or Mana_Ku or hp.

[forbiddanlight]

Hmm? Are you saying that MAna is lying? And WHY NOT SOONER?

[Natirasha]

Hmm? Are you saying that MAna is lying? And WHY NOT SOONER?

No, I'm not sure Mana is lying. He could very well be telling the truth, but I'm not sure yet.

[forbiddanlight]

No, I'm not sure Mana is lying. He could very well be telling the truth, but I'm not sure yet.

Ok, so why a Mana vote?

[Natirasha]

No, I'm not sure Mana is lying. He could very well be telling the truth, but I'm not sure yet.

Ok, so why a Mana vote?

I'm not sure. Just something about the post.

[veerus]

Everyone

should make a claim with their

next post

. This way everyone should be able to claim before deadline (as it is slightly more than 72 hours away). Those who lurk or or fail to claim with their next post should be considered as most scummy. The only person who's currrently V/LA is MafiaSSK (I think) and he should be required as soon as he comes back.

With that said.. I'm B5.

Unvote

until everyone's claimed.

Farside: we are

race

claiming only.

[farside22]

What does b5 mean. I can't for the life of me find where you guys put the information on claims. Grrrr