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[MathBlade]

I guess explain to me why you shouldn’t be elimmed.

It looks like House tried to fake claim vig to protect you from a guilty far as I can tell.

I don’t want that to be the case here but Nero self hammering holds a lot of weight for you being scum.

[House]

House -> What do you make of SS being shot rather than IV? Given that you said you expected IV to be shot?

I was just trying to buy S_S another night.

Scum's hand is pretty much forced to kill iv if he's town tonight, especially if we hit scum today.

If we mislim today, scum can try to claim any guilty is a scum gambit by iv to secure the game winning mislim, so it's a tossup if iv gets killed tonight if we mislim.

I feel like I'm making more sense now, correct me if I'm wrong.

[House]

I guess explain to me why you shouldn’t be elimmed.

At this point, I no longer care.

I'm not going to continue to repeat myself on how fucking stupid the notion that I'm scum is.

I'm just going to plan my future accordingly if you lack the sense to see it for yourself.

[Datisi]

I don’t want that to be the case here but Nero self hammering holds a lot of weight for you being scum.

it holds a lot of weight for nero playing like utter shit this game. him being town doesn't mean he was magically correct.

and in what world does house fakeclaim vig to protect me? what, house and i shot outworld, saw that vp died because he visited me (or house, but realistically me because lol vp - actually wait, we'd know because i'd have gotten fruit, right), he claimed vig and tied us both together because...? i would not be the one fakeclaiming the vig shot in that scenario because i just love tying my own partner to myself?

[catboi]

For clarity, role PMs have been added to flips.

quoting for the new page.

[Datisi]

also that world means that scum!me saw town!vp not only claim an investigative role, BUT ALSO very clearly say that he was scum... and instead we decided to shoot the unclaimed townie who was townreading me. yeah. spot on.

[Datisi]

very clearly say that he was starting to think i was scum* words are difficult

[MathBlade]

House -> What do you make of SS being shot rather than IV? Given that you said you expected IV to be shot?

I was just trying to buy S_S another night.

Scum's hand is pretty much forced to kill iv if he's town tonight, especially if we hit scum today.

If we mislim today, scum can try to claim any guilty is a scum gambit by iv to secure the game winning mislim, so it's a tossup if iv gets killed tonight if we mislim.

I feel like I'm making more sense now, correct me if I'm wrong.

Miselimming at 6 alive with 2 scum (assumed as a mini with 2 scum total is bad) we lose, so this assumes we hit a scum or no elim.

I think the kill isn’t clear.
If scum don’t have a roleblocker or a way to fuck with reads then IV is the clear kill. The alternative is they risk him clearing someone or a guilty which would make the game hyper focused.

If they do have a way, then they might kill me or IV. I think IV would be the kill scum make if they think I can be manipulated or just bad reads.

Without knowing if scum have a roleblocker or not I am not sure.

[MathBlade]

I guess explain to me why you shouldn’t be elimmed.

At this point, I no longer care.

I'm not going to continue to repeat myself on how fucking stupid the notion that I'm scum is.

I'm just going to plan my future accordingly if you lack the sense to see it for yourself.

That was to Datisi

[House]

Miselimming at 6 alive with 2 scum (assumed as a mini with 2 scum total is bad) we lose, so this assumes we hit a scum or no elim.

If we no lim, the statement stands.

[House]

We have to hit scum today if we want to be able to trust a potential guilty from iv tomorrow.

[House]

Lol, not even then.

Shit.

I give up.

[Aristeia]

i think atp house is significantly more likely to be town than Datisi/Andres

[Aristeia]

I guess the only way I would possibly see House as being mafia is if he is aligned with IV-scum but if that's the world we're living in I don't see how this setup passes review so I'm going to throw it in the trash.

[House]

i think atp house is significantly more likely to be town than Datisi/Andres

I guess the only way I would possibly see House as being mafia is if he is aligned with IV-scum but if that's the world we're living in I don't see how this setup passes review so I'm going to throw it in the trash.

Lying about being a Mason to save my buddy on d1 requires a bigger set of balls than I have.

[Andresvmb]

I’m sorry about yesterday - I really am. I’m sad that Frogsterking not only replaced out, but went out in such a way. I don’t fault Nero Cain for self-hammering, since they were pushed to the extreme and I wouldn’t have wanted to spend too much time and effort trying to turn around the wagon on me at that stage.

I’ll state the obvious - a No Execution here is not sensible. Due to the mechanical claims that we have, it doesn’t make sense to No Vote only to lose the remaining claimed PR left. We need IV’s voice to help guide our thinking. I also don’t want to think too hard about Mathblade being Scum. Yeah sure, at times during the game I have wanted to reconsider my stance on this. But I can’t at this point in time go against what I really do think is a strong probability that they’re cleared, and lose due to extreme paranoia.

That leaves House / Aristeia / Datisi. If you wanted to build a Team from those three, I suppose a Datisi + Aristeia Team is more likely than a House + Datisi or House + Aristeia Team. But I gotta be honest, I’m annoyed at that solve. That means what, Aristeia and Datisi have been openly buddying each other as Scum practically the entire game, and refusing to strongly consider each other? It didn’t read like that to me when I first read through their posts. Datisi has also had me as Town a large majority of the game (despite us both being firmly in the POE). That would have had to have been White Knighting, which maybe? But it wasn’t necessary. Datisi could have stayed away from making any definitive statements about my alignment, and they certainly didn’t have to call the fight between Frogsterking and I TvT (leaving themselves open to then getting pushed). Now, I perceived yesterday that openly questioning the Gunsmith was a silly strategy from Scum. Today? I would imagine it feels necessary to have to try and open that door. So I’m not reading Aristeia’s comments in that direction in a positive light. That’s the first slot I will do a deep dive on.

[Aristeia]

Dats you should help Andy push me here.

[Aristeia]

End the game quickly so I don't suffer too much. You owe me that much love.

[Aristeia]

I guess what hurts the most is how much kinder you are to me when we are not the same alignment.

[Aristeia]

I guess I would've enjoyed a few more days of ignorance

[innocentvillager]

Math has a vig shot right so can we just No Lim here?

[innocentvillager]

Im very detached from this game rn sorry

I am honestly just down to sheep the other clear at this point, I just don’t really have the time to wade through all these pages

[Aristeia]

I think Math only has a vig shot if the vig gets eliminated on Day 1.

If Math had a vig shot we shouldn't no lim.

[MathBlade]

Im very detached from this game rn sorry

I am honestly just down to sheep the other clear at this point, I just don’t really have the time to wade through all these pages

I do not or I probably would have shot Ari N2 tbh.

I was just gonna sheep you.

So I guess we gotta work together on it. Late tonight I will probably thought spew.

[House]

iv is so dying tonight, lol.

He's about as informed as I am.