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(1): Val89

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(6): Save The Dragons, MegAzumarill, Dwlee99, bugspray, Pavowski, Esooa

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: February 7, Noon US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2022-02-07 09:00:00)

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[Save The Dragons]

what if there's 3 scum

[bugspray]

what you are saying makes no sense
VOTE: meg

[MegAzumarill]

what if there's 3 scum

I'd be willing to bet on there only being 2

[MegAzumarill]

what you are saying makes no sense
VOTE: meg

You find this scum indicitive why?

[Pavowski]

what if there's 3 scum

STD you're obviously looking for ways to hedge on your block meaning what it seems pretty obviously to mean, but

If 3 scum, that's 3/9 to start

d1 mislim gives 3/8

d1 NK gives 3/7

d2 mislim gives 3/6, scum win.

Put aside any PR discussion -- that seems way too scumsided to lose sleep over.

I think your block on Esooa is pretty clear-cut.

[Pavowski]

Reconsidering the possibility of strongman
Would probably be one shot and almost definitely have targeted pav.
Pav could you say your result but not your target?

I found a vanilla last night.

[Pavowski]

Reconsidering the possibility of strongman
Would probably be one shot and almost definitely have targeted pav.
Pav could you say your result but not your target?

I found a vanilla last night.

Don't want to speculate too much but I agree with your thinking that scum may have been motivated to target me, which would make for a good reason not to target me, if you know what I mean

[Val89]

can you explain my fake e-1 on pooky

I'm not sure what you are actually asking here. If you are Pookies partner, as I am theorising, then a fake vote on your partners wagon is meaningless.

Are you suggesting that vote somehow clears you?

[MegAzumarill]

Reconsidering the possibility of strongman
Would probably be one shot and almost definitely have targeted pav.
Pav could you say your result but not your target?

I found a vanilla last night.

Don't want to speculate too much but I agree with your thinking that scum may have been motivated to target me, which would make for a good reason not to target me, if you know what I mean

My point is you would have a mech!guilty on a hypothetical strongman so you not dead means they didn't use their strongman shot

[bugspray]

can you explain my fake e-1 on pooky

I'm not sure what you are actually asking here. If you are Pookies partner, as I am theorising, then a fake vote on your partners wagon is meaningless.

Are you suggesting that vote somehow clears you?

I'm suggesting that the scenarios and reasons you are fabricating about the reasoning behind my actions do not take into account the fact that I voted pooky while pooky was on e-2 and then lied saying that pooky was at e-1 and then urged a player who has since flipped town via NK to hammer because the fact that I voted pooky while pooky was on e-2 and then lied saying that pooky was at e-1 and then urged a player who has since flipped town via NK to hammer contradicts the scenarios and reasons you are fabricating about the reasoning behind my actions.

It does not clear me, but it invalidates your argument.

[Pavowski]

I am not sure I follow your reasoning on a hypothetical strongman (if the remaining scum is vanilla, which wouldn't shock me, then I'm not super useful now that Pooky is dead) and I am fairly sure such reasoning is not helping us much, here.

Esooa is for all intents and purposes cleared unless there's deep fookery afoot, and I'm not ready to strap on my tinfoil at this point.

[bugspray]

Weird for Val to move the goalpost of "clears you(me)" seems way too aggro and his entire stance feels so forced

[MegAzumarill]

@mod I think the elimination threshold is incorrectly set

[Pavowski]

can you explain my fake e-1 on pooky

I'm not sure what you are actually asking here. If you are Pookies partner, as I am theorising, then a fake vote on your partners wagon is meaningless.

Are you suggesting that vote somehow clears you?

I'm suggesting that the scenarios and reasons you are fabricating about the reasoning behind my actions do not take into account the fact that I voted pooky while pooky was on e-2 and then lied saying that pooky was at e-1 and then urged a player who has since flipped town via NK to hammer because the fact that I voted pooky while pooky was on e-2 and then lied saying that pooky was at e-1 and then urged a player who has since flipped town via NK to hammer contradicts the scenarios and reasons you are fabricating about the reasoning behind my actions.

It does not clear me, but it invalidates your argument.

This post made me feel like I was high, which is disappointing, because I am not high

[MegAzumarill]

We have 3 clears* which means the game is halfway solved already.
I think Val is town.
Therefore 1 of Dwlee, bugspray is most likely scum fmpov.
Of the two bugspray looks more likely but not by much.

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: Bugspray
E-2

[bugspray]

I am not sure I follow your reasoning on a hypothetical strongman (if the remaining scum is vanilla, which wouldn't shock me, then I'm not super useful now that Pooky is dead) and I am fairly sure such reasoning is not helping us much, here.

Esooa is for all intents and purposes cleared unless there's deep fookery afoot, and I'm not ready to strap on my tinfoil at this point.

If there are three scum and then a non-esooa made the kill then essoa isn't confclear, but we don't have a strong reason to think there are three scum.

[MegAzumarill]

Theoretically the day shouldn't end yet
Because of the off chance StD is scum and Esooa successfully used an ability with feedback.
So don't hammer

[bugspray]

I was about to come in all gung-ho about bugspray being the one to initial suggest there were 3 scum that started me thinking that way, but re-reading what I thought was the offending post (271), I think I might have misread it myself.

Regardless, despite the depiction of my read being "fucking stupid or willfully ignorant", bugspray has failed to explain why either of the two apply, and I'm pretty sure my initial feeling at to the motivation behind 113 was right on the money from the start - the misgivings I had about it, namely that I was townleaning on Three, have evaporated on confirmation that the three/pooky slot was indeed mafia. That confirmation also essentially townlocks STD as far as I am concerned.

this game is going nowhere

can we just murder someone already

VOTE: pooky i see we have a volunteer

Putting aside the wierd second/fake/what-ever-it-was vote on the Pooky wagon, this reasoning for joining the red wagon (well, the lack of, more preciesly) gives me no reason to give bugspray any credit for having been on Pookies wagon when it flipped.

Furthermore, I'm thinking that the fact you

[pooky]

and bugspray are both pushing Esooa while simulatanously throwing shade in my direction is not co-incidental

If Esooa is indeed cleared by STDs roleblock, then that's another mark in the scum!bugspray column for me.

VOTE: Bugspray

wait do you really think that i, as scum would fucking bus a power role partner so flippantly?

[MegAzumarill]

After some consideration I have decided that is is probably best for Pav to out their result.
It's more information at essentially no cost because a power role/clear always dies tonight anyway (StD or Pav)

If you do not wish to out (or targeted Esooa) you can decide not to but I think it's valuable

[Val89]

You say there is 2 scum, hence only 1 remaining; and that I am 'fabricating' the reasoning behind your actions, and 'moving the goalposts' with a stance that 'feels so forced'.

And yet you are voting for Meg. Curious.

[Save The Dragons]

i want dwlee to post

[Lukewarm]

@mod I think the elimination threshold is incorrectly set

Both vote counts of the day have had this corrected to say : With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

[Pavowski]

I am not sure I follow your reasoning on a hypothetical strongman (if the remaining scum is vanilla, which wouldn't shock me, then I'm not super useful now that Pooky is dead) and I am fairly sure such reasoning is not helping us much, here.

Esooa is for all intents and purposes cleared unless there's deep fookery afoot, and I'm not ready to strap on my tinfoil at this point.

If there are three scum and then a non-esooa made the kill then essoa isn't confclear, but we don't have a strong reason to think there are three scum.

Agree entirely.