Choose Carefully Mafia: (Game Over)

[bird1111]

Vote Count:
Santos (6): ZazieR, Moses le fou, Save the Dragon, ZTR, christiano drago, oEJo, hp [leaves]
Battle Mage (1): SocioPath
Riceballtail (1): Battle Mage
armlx (1): Riceballtail
hp [leaves] (1): CarnCarn

Not voting (6): Thunder, Santos, Sineish, Empking, armlx

With 16 alive it is 9 to lynch.

Lynch Method Vote Count:
Rope (9): Save the Dragons, Riceballtail, Empking, Sineish, Moses le fou, CarnCarn, Santos, ZazieR, ZTR
Gun (6): hp [leaves], oEJo, christiano drago, SocioPath, Battle Mage, armlx

Not voting for a lynch method (1): Thunder

If a lynch were to happen without any change in lynch method votes, the Rope would be used.

[Santos]

(Santos voted rope, mod said gun, santos said no rope)

No. I voted for gun as a lynch method in the beginning. The mod did not count my vote when he made the next vote count, so I informed him of this. Later, I unvoted everything because people thought I was too hasty or starting bandwagons, when in fact, I was not. I 'added pressure' but nothing else. Since random votes started I jumped on to get the ball rolling...and it seems that is why I am most scummy, but as I recall DAY 1's start. like. this.

Eventually, after following CarnCarn's logic about the game mechanics, I chose 'rope' because I figure since I am townie I might as well be lynched with a rope instead of being shot with a gun. So I voted rope.

Now, no one is giving me the benefit of a doubt that I am not scum and are just fine with lynching me based on simple day one mechanics of pressuring and bandwagons. There are no discrepancies I have made unless someone can point them out to which I can better explain them (although I have multiple times :/ )

[Santos]

no one

Correction = 'some' as not everyone thinks I am scum.

[Save The Dragons]

Zazier, christiano drago and ZTR...why are you voting me?

I felt like it

Change Vote: Rope

Don't be that guy.

Santos: Post 335 and 336. If you want me to reword them into more legitimate arguments, I'm cool with that, but I am really curious as to your thought process at that point.

[CarnCarn]

Eventually, after following CarnCarn's logic about the game mechanics,

Santos, what in my speculation about the lynch/kill methods, which I've now decided was mostly wrong, made you decide Rope was a better method than Gun?

[Santos]

Corsicans lynched by one method as opposed to the Sicilians being lynched by another. So I voted for rope because if you're going to lynch a townie, I might as well vote for how a townie should properly die: lynch.

[Moses le fou]

Corsicans lynched by one method as opposed to the Sicilians being lynched by another. So I voted for rope because if you're going to lynch a townie, I might as well vote for how a townie should properly die: lynch.

So you're saying that you've been running around in circles for the sake of write-up flavor?

[Empking]

Vote: ZTR

His explanation wasn't good enough.

[Santos]

So you're saying that you've been running around in circles for the sake of write-up flavor?

Yes. What is the point of 'write-up flavor' if its not going to be of any use in the analysation of the game mechanics and player's posting styles?

[SocioPath]

...if we don't get him with whatever method we use today, we can have a quick tomorrow. Granted, two nights to one day is not great, but the scum will eventually encounter the problem of choosing who to kill.

There there is zero reason at all for tomorrow to be 'quick'. The night choices made N1 and discussion of such might lead to new information, regardless of whether or not Santos is the lynch today and gets strung up. The amount of people that could die in 2 nights could really alter the towns perceptions before everyone could even respond.

[ZTR]

Vote: ZTR

His explanation wasn't good enough.

lawl.

[hp [leaves]]

Posting to avoid prod.

Not much has went on since I really posted.

[Riceballtail]

Posting to avoid prod.

Not much has went on since I really posted.

I would disagree.

[Empking]

Vote: ZTR

His explanation wasn't good enough.

lawl.

Does that smiley go with what you're saying?

[christiano drago]

Mod - replace me, sorry.

[Santos]

Christiano, you want my place? Its not too difficult :p[/joke]

[Save The Dragons]

Posting to avoid prod.

Not much has went on since I really posted.

I would disagree.

Thanks to the both of you for this ironic and pointless conversation.

I'm sorry, RBT, but unlike Santos, I won't follow you just because you vote someone, so if you want me to be convinced of armlx's guilt, you're going to have to spell it out for me. Otherwise, I'm perfectly content in voting a player you find to be town.

I'd love a little more from ZTR as well.

There there is zero reason at all for tomorrow to be 'quick'. The night choices made N1 and discussion of such might lead to new information, regardless of whether or not Santos is the lynch today and gets strung up. The amount of people that could die in 2 nights could really alter the towns perceptions before everyone could even respond.

If we don't get that sort of info, we'll probably want to kill the person we wanted to kill the first day but couldn't. But true, if we get more information, we can have a more informed decision.

[Riceballtail]

UNVOTE; VOTE:Armlx
FoS:Moses

Thought: Armlx is trying to get a name out of him to see if it's a scumbuddy, so he can figure out if CC is also therefore scum or not.

This doesn't spell out why I'm voting Armlx?

[Moses le fou]

UNVOTE; VOTE:Armlx
FoS:Moses

Thought: Armlx is trying to get a name out of him to see if it's a scumbuddy, so he can figure out if CC is also therefore scum or not.

This doesn't spell out why I'm voting Armlx?

Armlx's given reason for doing what he's doing seems valid enough, so I doubt you're right. And even if he is, doesn't it help us for him to scumhunt? Even if he's scum himself, him taking out opposing scum still helps us.

[ZTR]

Vote: ZTR

His explanation wasn't good enough.

lawl.

Does that smiley go with what you're saying?

It's the best I could find on such short notice. It's an embarrassed laugh. =o

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE; VOTE:Armlx
FoS:Moses

Thought: Armlx is trying to get a name out of him to see if it's a scumbuddy, so he can figure out if CC is also therefore scum or not.

I as well must commend you on your excellent play! You vote for armlx, then you accuse him of scumhunting. Which is clearly a scummy thing to do.

(Granted, I understand that scum are searching for scum of the other team, but if you really think that Armlx is scum, and he's searching for scum from the other team in his mason partner and someone else's mason partner, how exactly does is that a tell as scum? Couldn't he just as likely or even more likely be town?)

Unless, of course, you have another reason for voting armlx and have decided not to share it.

This doesn't spell why I think your reasoning behind armlx is bullshit?

ZTR: Are you even willing to bother demonstrating that you're more than just bandwagoning Santos because it's easy? Do you actually think Santos is scum?

[CarnCarn]

STD, I think that question can be extended to hp [leaves] as well.

although I still get mad scum vibes from hp [leaves].

Could you please explain why is this?

OK, I will explain:

Also, not random

vote: Gun

Guns are like, awesome.

Hmm, OK...

I agree with Santos' idea to delay the choice of method.

unvote

I also unvote and

vote: moses

because I'm thinking he's trying too hard and pointing out ideas is a neighbor's duty.

Well, maybe, but are you really just trying to subtly buddy with Santos here? He follows your vote on Moses soon after.

But then you:

Oh also

Vote: Santos

That's it? Can it be any more obvious bandwagoning, maybe even bussing? Please answer STD's question and explain your reasons for the Santos vote.
All of these things, along with massive lurking, make me quite suspicious of you.

[ZTR]

UNVOTE; VOTE:Armlx
FoS:Moses

Thought: Armlx is trying to get a name out of him to see if it's a scumbuddy, so he can figure out if CC is also therefore scum or not.

I as well must commend you on your excellent play! You vote for armlx, then you accuse him of scumhunting. Which is clearly a scummy thing to do.

(Granted, I understand that scum are searching for scum of the other team, but if you really think that Armlx is scum, and he's searching for scum from the other team in his mason partner and someone else's mason partner, how exactly does is that a tell as scum? Couldn't he just as likely or even more likely be town?)

Unless, of course, you have another reason for voting armlx and have decided not to share it.

This doesn't spell why I think your reasoning behind armlx is bullshit?

ZTR: Are you even willing to bother demonstrating that you're more than just bandwagoning Santos because it's easy? Do you actually think Santos is scum?

Dunno Id I said this or not when I voted for him, but I just voted as a bandwagon. I'll get more indepth once we get a few phases in.

[ZTR]

If*, not Id.

[armlx]

Waiting for a dead Santos.