Mini 671 - Dwarf Fortress - Game Over!

[Pesco47]

How would any SK feel about getting their best piece of loot stolen from them on the first day?

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This would be the first time I haven't killed you at the earliest opportunity.

[sekinj]

like crying?

[Pesco47]

Pretty close to that, but badass goblin warlords don't cry except for warcies.

Who of the other players are your scum possibilities, Sekinj?

[sekinj]

well, I was starting to suspect tub and ramus for how they ganged up on you and seemed to want you dead, no matter if that wasn't a smart move for town.

but then anderson came in and did almost the same thing...

at this point I think I'm liking Ramus and Time for being our scum.

[sekinj]

Nah, I've got a lot more than just that image at my disposal. Don't worry, you'll see plenty more.

Ramus - why haven't we seen the plenty more pics you promised?

[Ramus]

Pretty close to that, but badass goblin warlords don't cry except for warcies.

Who of the other players are your scum possibilities, Sekinj?

I never promised images per say, but I did say I had a lot more.

[Ramus]

I promise, that isn't an animated image.

[andersonw]

well, I was starting to suspect tub and ramus for how they ganged up on you and seemed to want you dead, no matter if that wasn't a smart move for town.

but then anderson came in and did almost the same thing...

What made me think Pesco was so sure scum yesterday was his claim of inhibitor-survivor, that made absolutely no sense to me at all (and also him/her and KoC generally being not as suspicious and slightly defending each other, but this point is gone now). I didn't want Pesco lynched because I thought it wasn't a smart move for the town, I wanted Pesco lynched because I was almost sure of a scum flip.


More questions for Pesco:
In your post 645, what do you mean by "I no longer have kill info"? Sorry if you already explained this before, I did a quick search and didn't find it.
Also, do you find it unlikely that two of your kills failed?

[Tuberkulos]

well, I was starting to suspect tub and ramus for how they ganged up on you and

seemed to want you dead, no matter if that wasn't a smart move

for town.

I have only said that Pesco is my prime suspect. I have asked him questions. I can't really see where I have said "Let's lynch him no matter the outcome!" or where it could

seem

like that's what I want.

Sekinj, it seems like you have a little more liberal view on Pesco than me. Could you explain what you think about him? Could you explain how you feel about his role flip-flopping etc.?

What made me think Pesco was so sure scum yesterday was his claim of inhibitor-survivor, that made absolutely no sense to me at all (and also him/her and KoC generally being not as suspicious and slightly defending each other, but this point is gone now). I didn't want Pesco lynched because I thought it wasn't a smart move for the town, I wanted Pesco lynched because I was almost sure of a scum flip.

Andersonw, you express yourself in imperfect. Does this mean that you don't want Pesco lynched anymore? If so, what happened to this:

To everyone: I'm repeating that I want to make sure no one forgets that claimed third-party roles must be lynched. I would be really mad if everyone believes Pesco's claim and the town lost, just like in Akatsuki.

Anyways, another important rule of mafia I just remembered: All claimed third-party rules must be lynched no matter what. Why? Akatsuki mafia (which I was part of) is a good example of this. It was Claus who claimed third-party in that game and eventually won because we all believed him (except for me but no one paid attention to me that game)

never promised images per say, but

I did say I had a lot more.

And also that we would

see

alot more.

[Pesco47]

I thought I killed iLord, but since the thief made me useless on day 1, I don't have any definitive proof of other NK-immunes or doc protects.

Was NK-immune SK, now only NK-immune S .

[Tuberkulos]

I thought I killed iLord, but since the thief made me useless on day 1, I don't have any definitive proof of other NK-immunes or doc protects.

Was NK-immune SK, now only

NK-immune S

.

Night Kill-immune Scum! Finally a confession! Nah, I'm just kidding

[Pesco47]

I'm SKum not scum, know the difference,

[Ramus]

I thought I killed iLord, but since the thief made me useless on day 1, I don't have any definitive proof of other NK-immunes or doc protects.

Was NK-immune SK, now only NK-immune S .

This is what most people see.

That's what I see in Pesco's posts.

Yes, to make up for my lack of images in the last 26 pages, I will be posting (not quite) absurd amounts for the most bizarre reasons.
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Anyway, since none of you are making much effort to find scum, I'll further point out problems in Pesco's story.

- CoheedCambria - Kobold Thief - Lynched D1

Go check the first post of the topic. Now, typically a thief acts at night, correct? That would leave the thief with no chance of stealing. However, even if CoCam could steal during the day, the chances are pretty slim that he would've chosen Pesco.

Seems a wee bit contrived and once again, nifty little excuse that he didn't kill at all so far, because the scenario just happened in such a way that he could take full advantage of it. And with the impossible to be night killed "ability," he's further made reason for the Mafia not to kill him, effectively making him

seem

useless.

Once again guys, this is just a set up by Pesco to look innocent and allow him to lynch a townie.

[sekinj]

i think pesco is scum and should die. but if there are two scum, I don't see the harm in killing the other one today, and pesco tommorrow. however, I can also see going with a pesco lynch today if we can't find anythign as convincing on someone else.

[Pesco47]

You'd find something more convincing if you'd start looking elsewhere other than me.

[Ramus]

i think pesco is scum and should die. but if there are two scum, I don't see the harm in killing the other one today, and pesco tommorrow. however, I can also see going with a pesco lynch today if we can't find anythign as convincing on someone else.

Hmm, well, let's look at yesterday:

"We'll lynch Pesco tomorrow."

Now we're in Lynch or Die time. Lynching him tomorrow will not help us if we lose today. And the fact you're suggesting lynching Pesco tomorrow even though you think he should die is slightly odd, no?

[sekinj]

@pes - I was just answering someone's question. settle.

[Pesco47]

@ Ramus: Who do you think my so-called scum buddy would be?

You guys could always do a No Lynch. I haven't planned for that scenario, but it'll also give me another chance to confirm that I'm disarmed. Quite simply, I'll name my target (you guys can choose one for me too if you like), Day comes and we count bodies. It won't help scum at all if theres only one body.

[Ramus]

@ Ramus: Who do you think my so-called scum buddy would be?

Either timeater or sekinj. However, I don't have nearly as much suspicion on sekinj, it was just due to the second to latest statement that seemed odd.

[Pesco47]

Would you be happy with a Tim lynch then?

[Ramus]

Would you be happy with a Tim lynch then?

Not really, timeater is likely to be modkilled soon, so I want you dead in the meantime.

[Pesco47]

Modkill unlikely, replacing just screws us all. Only scum would want me dead as soon as possible. I need another night to confirm that I can't kill to you all. Scum don't want to take those chances.

[Ramus]

Modkill unlikely, replacing just screws us all. Only scum would want me dead as soon as possible. I need another night to confirm that I can't kill to you all. Scum don't want to take those chances.

I don't see reason to replace this late in the game, but if that happens, meh, I have no clue what to do in that situation.

Also, nice gross generalization.

Lastly, you won't prove jack by having a free night since you probably have the option not to kill someone. Seems like another shot for the Mafia to kill someone.

[Pesco47]

I have the option of trying to kill anyone at night and maybe hitting scum successfully, which is what you'd be worried about.

Look on the flipside for scum's benefit, if my kill takes out a different townie from scum's, they win.

[Pesco47]

EBWOP: Don't forget that I can only die by modkill or lynch.