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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:59 pm

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SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:02 pm

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MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
That doesn't seem very reassuring. :/ As of yet you haven't been helping town, but hindering it.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:10 pm

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ShadowGirl wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
That doesn't seem very reassuring.
:/ As of yet you haven't been helping town, but hindering it.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:13 pm

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MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
You know, I would think that the fact you're a so-called Survivor would make you even more likely to contribute. If you get lynched, that's it, you lose. No chance for your more
competent
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:17 pm

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I don't really see how it all you've been playing to win in accordance to the condition you claim to be. :/
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:30 pm

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Before I head off for the night, I will say this: I believe he's more likely to be very very anti-town then scum.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:37 pm

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SensFan wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
You know, I would think that the fact you're a so-called Survivor would make you even more likely to contribute. If you get lynched, that's it, you lose. No chance for your more
competent
helpful to pull out a win.
I haven't known how to play a Survivor.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:16 pm

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MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
SensFan wrote:Oh, right, sorry. I forgot that its impossible for Scum to claim Survivor. Nevermind, then, keep lurking like shit, by claiming Survivor, you confirmed yourself to be non-Scum.

Have a nice, lurkish, day!
Sorry. I forgot it wa sa popular scum claim. I'll scum hunt more than.
You know, I would think that the fact you're a so-called Survivor would make you even more likely to contribute. If you get lynched, that's it, you lose. No chance for your more
competent
helpful to pull out a win.
I haven't known how to play a Survivor.
Hunt Scum well enough to avoid a lynch. Don't hunt Scum well enough to be killed.

At this point, you need to focus on the first part. Especially since you claimed a non-Town role.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:53 pm

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Sens, why are you instructing SSK? It also seems like you're giving him a free pass, why.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:57 pm

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charter wrote:Sens, why are you instructing SSK?
I'm telling him to scumhunt...
charter wrote:It also seems like you're giving him a free pass, why.
I'm not giving him a free pass at all. I'm literally doing the opposite, since I've told him to contribute or be lynched. I just don't think he's the play today *shrug*
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:31 pm

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Sens wrote:Hunt Scum well enough to avoid a lynch. Don't hunt Scum well enough to be killed.

At this point, you need to focus on the first part. Especially since you claimed a non-Town role.
That looks like instructions to me. That's saying more than just scumhunt.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:37 pm

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Day One Vote Count #14: End of Day One


6 SocioPath (Yaw, Caboose, forbiddanlight, SensFan, Electra, MafiaSSK)
4 MafiaSSK (wolframnhart, charter, ooba, RandomGem)
3 Electra (Empking, SocioPath, Seraphim)

With
14
alive, it takes
8
to lynch, and
7
to No-Lynch. Deadline October 22, 9:59 pm CDT, and it will take
5
to lynch at deadline.

Not Voting – 1 – ShadowGirl

~

SocioPath, Pretty Much Useless, Town
, has been lynched!
SocioPath, Pretty Much Useless wrote:
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During one -- and
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You win with the town when all Mafiates, Serial Killers, and Cultists are dead and somebody with the exact same win condition as you is alive.

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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:34 pm

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Day Two


ShadowGirl, Gambler, Self-Aligned, has been shot!
ShadowGirl, Gambler wrote:
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Time to press your luck. On Night One of the game (but
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You win if at the end of the game 3 of those 4 players on your list are dead
prior to “endgame” killings
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Good luck, and have fun! Be sure to read the rules of the game. Confirm your role by PM.
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Ice cream – as you know – is delicious. Why have one serving when you can have two?!

Each night, you must target two players, and neither of those players may include yourself. If those two players are of the exact same alignment, they will both be protected from 1 nightkill each for that night only. If they are not the exact same alignment, neither player will receive that protection.

Oh, and one more thing. You can never submit the pairing (two players) for protection more than once. For example, if you protect Players G and H on Night Three, you may not protect both Players G and H on the same night ever again. Knowing that, you might want to plan ahead.

You win with the town when all Mafiates, Serial Killers, and Cultists are dead and somebody with the exact same win condition as you is alive.

Good luck, and have fun! Be sure to read the rules of the game. Confirm your role by PM.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:18 am

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I'm going to try to fit in a reread.

In the meantime, while SSK is a safe lynch for today (either he's a survivor and thus his lynch doesn't hurt us, or he's lying scum), he has posted in other threads that he's V/LA until Friday. I'd advise trying to find scum among the players that are currently around in the meantime, and if we have nothing promising by then we can go with the more obvious lynch.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:49 am

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Yaw wrote:I'm going to try to fit in a reread.

In the meantime, while SSK is a safe lynch for today (either he's a survivor and thus his lynch doesn't hurt us, or he's lying scum), he has posted in other threads that he's V/LA until Friday. I'd advise trying to find scum among the players that are currently around in the meantime, and if we have nothing promising by then we can go with the more obvious lynch.
Not to sure i agree here Yaw. I do agree with finding scum amongst other people while SSK is apparently V/LA, but to say he is a safe lynch..
You could be right, he could be lying scum and we get a good lynch today, but to say he is survivor and (if he wasn't lying about that) his lynch would be safe i don't quite follow unless i am thinking about this the wrong way. Lynching him if he is survivor could mean two more townies (three if there was a doc block on one person) could be dead at night and that isn't a good thing at all.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:49 am

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and if we have nothing promising by then we can go with the more obvious lynch.
Careful with this. We don't know when lylo is, and while I doubt it's now, we can't let a survivor live to lylo. I'm not sure how useful I'll be for the next few days (My sister is getting married on the 31st and things are busy up to then). However, I will try to contribute as I can, and return to full speed after that.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:23 am

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Well, one of those deaths last night appears to have been self-inflicted, so I'm not convinced there would be two more deaths. (Read ShadowGirl's role again.)

At any rate, the main purpose in saying that was that I expected to see a big push to lynch SSK right out of the gate, and felt that was rather useless while he isn't around. Apparently I was wrong for thinking that would happen. I agree that SSK shouldn't be living until lylo (and absolutely should not be allowed to
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:02 pm

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Well, one of those deaths last night appears to have been self-inflicted, so I'm not convinced there would be two more deaths. (Read ShadowGirl's role again.)
I'm aware of that. It's just multiple factions that worries me



At any rate, the main purpose in saying that was that I expected to see a big push to lynch SSK right out of the gate, and felt that was rather useless while he isn't around. Apparently I was wrong for thinking that would happen. I agree that SSK shouldn't be living until lylo (and absolutely should not be allowed to lurk until lylo), but if he is telling the truth about his role than lynching scum is better than lynching a survivor. That assumes we have a good lead, of course.
Mostly agree with this, but I kinda have a lynch all survivors attitude since mind screw. I'm willing to give him a chance to be pro town though.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:23 pm

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I'm kinda glad that ShadowGirl is dead. She would be working to keep certain people alive to win, which might incude scum.

After deep thinking...I didn't like the Sociopath lynch. After his roleclaim, I quickly backed off. I thought his roleclaim was solid and really have no idea why people continued to vote for him. The case against him was incredibly weak.

I'm still thinking about either voting for Electra or voting for Yaw(who, I believe, started that bandwagon), so...

I want everyone who was on that bandwagon at the end of the day, sans MafiaSSK(Yaw, Caboose, forbiddanlight, SensFan, Electra) to explain their reasoning on their vote on Sociopath.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:38 pm

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The claim seemed very unbelievable, and also the fact that he appeared to be pushing weak cases to get a D1 mislynch.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:41 pm

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forbiddanlight wrote:
Well, one of those deaths last night appears to have been self-inflicted, so I'm not convinced there would be two more deaths. (Read ShadowGirl's role again.)
I'm aware of that. It's just multiple factions that worries me
Four factions, right? Couldn't it be Town, Mafia, SSK, ShadowGirl?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:41 pm

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What claim would have been believable to you, then?
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:42 pm

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Four factions, right? Couldn't it be Town, Mafia, SSK, ShadowGirl?
That's entirely possible. Well, at least 4. Well, long as we don't leave him alive at lylo.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:52 pm

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@ Seraphim - my voting for Sociopath was first based on his assumption that townies have unique special notes, then his claim which I did not think would be in the game, since it just seemed _so_ useless. (Which I guess it was supposed to be.) If he had not claimed one shot, I might have believed him.

I feel that SSK is the correct lynch today, barring any surprising developments. There's a reason that it's not a typical survivor strategy to just claim survivor. If you're not protown, you're against us. :p

I also find charter suspicious for being very pro-Sociopath near the end of yesterday- he talked about not finding SP suspicious and agreeing with him and such - it would be a mafia thing to do since he knew that SP would turn up townie.

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:57 pm

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SensFan wrote:Four factions, right? Couldn't it be Town, Mafia, SSK, ShadowGirl?
I thought that originally too, but upon looking at the opening post, Jellymod says
at least
4. So while ShadowGirl, SSK (if truthful), town, scum does make 4, that doesn't necessarily mean those are the only win conditions in the game. Which is unfortunate -- I was also hoping to do a process of elimination thing.
SocioPath wrote:After deep thinking...I didn't like the Sociopath lynch. After his roleclaim, I quickly backed off. I thought his roleclaim was solid and really have no idea why people continued to vote for him. The case against him was incredibly weak.

I'm still thinking about either voting for Electra or voting for Yaw(who, I believe, started that bandwagon), so...

I want everyone who was on that bandwagon at the end of the day, sans MafiaSSK(Yaw, Caboose, forbiddanlight, SensFan, Electra) to explain their reasoning on their vote on Sociopath.
For the record, I predicted either you or charter would pull this. The essential premise behind going after people because they were on a bandwagon that lynched town is flawed. Wrong != Scum.

As for the rest, the claim was rather weak, and I couldn't figure out a reasonable way I would apply such a thing were I a mod and that claimed role were in my game. Furthermore, a SocioPath lynch, even if wrong, gives us far more information than an SSK lynch would have. SSK just lurked around and didn't say much of anything. He just randomly joined popular bandwagons when forced to come out of the woodwork. Meanwhile, plenty of people were taking positions on SocioPath yesterday, which leaves a lot of good information for us to pick through.

I believe I explained rather thoroughly yesterday why that bandwagon was a valid one to start. If you have any specific questions regarding it, feel free to go back through my explanations and ask based on what's already there. I don't see much point in typing it all up again.
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